Schon Pin Question

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Hello all. Just had a question I cant seem to find the answer to. When did Schon change from the old style pin (in the picture) to the new style on new Schons and when did they change from the "Schon" on the joint ring to the actual shaft? I emailed Mr. Clark and have not heard back from him yet. Thank you for your help.

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I bought a Schon in 1985 and it doesn't have a pin like that. So it must be older than 1985.

You could also contact Bob Runde. He was one of the founder of Schon.
 
They used that style on cues they made for a few years in the late 90's and then went back to the original full pin style that they used for most of their cue present and past. I am sure there are a few here that will know exactly when they were using that style pin.

-don
 
Interesting...

This question is very interesting, I used to work for Terry Romine at his original poolroom. That's the place where Schon cues was born. I obviously have not seen every cue coming out of the Schon shop, but have never seen this kind of pin on a Schon cue. Wonder how limited a period of time it was used?
 
I have a Schon cue with that exact same pin. I would say it plays a bit different than all the other Schons I have played with, but don't know how rare or popular they are/were.
 
Pin

Thanks for the information so far. The pin in question is on an original SL-22. It is now called the STL-20 .
 
I believe they used that pin in the early 90's, like 91-93. It is definately not the original pin they began using. I also believe that the joint is a little different than their standard joints: one piece of stainless with the pin attached. Someone who owned one brought it to my attention, if you look down into the joint, you will see all stainless w/no wood at all. Some like the hit of this pin/joint (the guy who showed me said it was his favorite hit), but it's not mine. Again, this pin didn't last long.

I also believe that after this pin was reverted back to the standard pin is when the scripted schon began.

Just my best guess.

Dave
 
I thought it was used in the mid 90's but my recollection could very well be wrong:o
 
muttley76 said:
I thought it was used in the mid 90's but my recollection could very well be wrong:o
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I had a schon LTD 144 that had this style pin I purchased new in 1996. The shaft was labled with the "SCHON 13MM" right under the ring in gold. I'm not sure how long they used this style but it wasn't more than a year or two.
 
I ordered a Schon from "Billiard Fanatic" catalog in 1997 and it had the same pin.



Brian
 
> Those pins were from the early-mid 90's. Those,along with the current/original form are actually a tad undersized across the top and at the bottom of the thread (major and minor diameter) groove. Instead of being a true 5/16 which in decimal form is .3125,the Schon comes in at around .302. This makes it easy to find aftermarket shafts such as the Predator,and be assured of it fitting. Evan and Bob's reason for this was the opposite,however. Without the tap,you simply cannot make a Schon shaft fit a Joss or Falcon butt,it will completely seize. Schon shafts are typically pretty snug fitting for a brass insert even with the undersized pin,their logic was this made it harder for other cuemakers to reproduce their "hit",as well as cut them out of replacement shaft sales.

My Runde-era has the original style,threaded all the way to the end,and chamfered. I made some joint protector pins recently that kinda look like the one shown by the OP. Tommy D.
 
I can confirm my 1995 era Schon had that pin. It came from Billiard Pro Shop in TN. It was the first in my area with that pin. A local Schon dealer had never seen that pin either, so they were probably introduced right around that time ('94 or '95).
 
Thanks again for all of the great information. Seems like mid 90's is the most common. I will post when or if I hear back from Mr. Clark. Happy New Year to all.
 
Tommy-D said:
> Those pins were from the early-mid 90's. Those,along with the current/original form are actually a tad undersized across the top and at the bottom of the thread (major and minor diameter) groove. Instead of being a true 5/16 which in decimal form is .3125,the Schon comes in at around .302. This makes it easy to find aftermarket shafts such as the Predator,and be assured of it fitting. Evan and Bob's reason for this was the opposite,however. Without the tap,you simply cannot make a Schon shaft fit a Joss or Falcon butt,it will completely seize. Schon shafts are typically pretty snug fitting for a brass insert even with the undersized pin,their logic was this made it harder for other cuemakers to reproduce their "hit",as well as cut them out of replacement shaft sales.

My Runde-era has the original style,threaded all the way to the end,and chamfered. I made some joint protector pins recently that kinda look like the one shown by the OP. Tommy D.
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There is your answer. BTW, I just got a Schon iv shaft for my stl-7 via a trade and for those who play with a Schon I would recommend trying this shaft.
 
I Had known a guy that had gotten a schon that actually had a Plastic Pin, i think it was either Late 90's or real early 2000's

I Believe it was one of the LTD models


It actually had a very different hit than the normal hit, maybe this is why they didnt continue making them.

Steve
 
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