Scott vs. Dippy Dave -- who do you trust?

Who do you believe is more trustworthy?

  • Scott

    Votes: 77 30.2%

  • Dippy Dave

    Votes: 78 30.6%

  • It's a dead heat

    Votes: 100 39.2%
  • Total voters
    255
SouthernDraw said:
I don't trust polls. The answers (really opinions) are more complicated than a just a few one word answers can justify.

Also, this I would say this is a small community here and people have either had personal contact with all the participants, or more importantly, have seen similar incidents happen around them (when they know no one in this scenario).

Most importantly, for sample wise, I would trust nothing less than a 3000 responses sample from any poll. With this small community, I think that would be unrealistic.

Having said all of this, it is good entertainment to watch the results. Kinda like watching a train wreck or superstar athlete jettison his hometown team for Miami!
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Well said, and it is all in fun. The poll might not be statistically significant and I don't know what the plus-or-minus ratio is, but I do think it is representative of the pool community.

You are correct that 3,000 responses would be ideal, but I kind of doubt there's that many people who give a damn about it in the pool world. In fact, I'd be really surprised if 3,000 people a day took the time of day to read anything about pool in the entire world. Therein likes the problem. ;)
 
SouthernDraw said:
I don't trust polls. The answers (really opinions) are more complicated than a just a few one word answers can justify.

Also, this I would say this is a small community here and people have either had personal contact with all the participants, or more importantly, have seen similar incidents happen around them (when they know no one in this scenario).

Most importantly, for sample wise, I would trust nothing less than a 3000 responses sample from any poll. With this small community, I think that would be unrealistic.

Having said all of this, it is good entertainment to watch the results. Kinda like watching a train wreck or superstar athlete jettison his hometown team for Miami!
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Actually, even with the small number of votes cast so far (141), there is only about one chance in 10 that the difference in percentage between Scott and Dippy is due to chance alone. (see http://faculty.vassar.edu/lowry/polls/calcs.html#ca4)
 
Fail

This poll is silly. Asking to "trust" a pool player/hustler/gambler??

As I said before I dont know MR. D. so zero trust -- As for the freeze, I trust that he will always be what he has been and I'll expect nothing less from him.
 
The Dippy vs Scott fiasco threads were very unflattering to both parties. On many levels. I don't know how anyone could have a respectable level of pooldom trust for either after reading through the threads. :angry:
 
KoolKat9Lives said:
The Dippy vs Scott fiasco threads were very unflattering to both parties. On many levels. I don't know how anyone could have a respectable level of pooldom trust for either after reading through the threads. :angry:
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I think this kind of MONEY Talk should not go on the Net, as it could prompt a KNOCK, KNOCK from the IRS looking for their CUT! JMHO!
 
I can count many of my friends who are pool players/gamblers that I would trust. I feel the same people would also trust me.

Trust with $5, with $500, or $50,000. Would losing $50k break me? No, but I would break them.
 
what I think this poll indicates

I think this poll simply indicates that we know less about Dave Peat than Scott Frost. More than one political election has been won because of people voting against the person they knew most about. Sometimes they found they had elected a far worse person.

Not saying who is the lesser person, only that we know Scott's reputation much better than we know Dave's and that is reflected in this poll.

Hu
 
JoeW said:
I don’t know either of these people except as reported here. What I have read are the opinions and observations of some of the people who support Scott’s position. So I should not have voted in support of Scott as the question was asked.

To be more accurate I have more “trust” in Scott’s position because of the support it receives from Jay and Bill Incardona. These venerable posters have more or less put themselves on the line in support of Scott’s position and that says a lot to me.
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I agree and feel a lot of us feel the same way, Joe. And as someone else pointed out, had the poll been worded to ask if we believed that DD paid Scott, I think the majority would have been behind Billy, Lenny & Jay whether they trusted Scott or not. Billy's word that he was with Scott at the time the payment was "claimed" to have been made has been the tipping point for most of us.
 
TX Poolnut said:
Perfectly played poolplayer2093. Prior pool planning partially prevents piss-poor poolplaying performance. :)

TX Poolnut <---3 feet high and rising
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Amazing alliterations allowed.

pt <.....thinks the webb is on the ebb
 
I trust neither because I've never met them. However, reading through these threads has been entertaining enough. A lot of people are getting really worked up over other peoples' business. It's a lot less stressful just to sit back and watch the train wreck, IMO.
 
With 178 votes in

With 178 votes in, the mere chance probability that the observed percentages of Scott and Dippy Dave differ from a 50/50 split is about 20%. This 20% "level of confidence" is pretty far from the 5% that would be acceptable in a normal scientific study in the field of psychology. The data don't support a firm conclusion that one is more trustworthy than the other. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.:grin:
 
Both pool players and poker players are story tellers. Poker players tell stories as part of their livelihood and as general gab at the table. Pool players tell stories as a hobby sitting around the PH, and to match up. There are only a few pool players or card players that I would trust farther than I could throw them. People who know the two in question might have a different view on it...personally, I don't have a horse in this race, so I dont' trust either.
 
KoolKat9Lives said:
The Dippy vs Scott fiasco threads were very unflattering to both parties. On many levels. I don't know how anyone could have a respectable level of pooldom trust for either after reading through the threads. :angry:
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is this a serious comment? "respectable level of pooldom"? i've seen this done for way less money. i saw it done for $20.00 once and it ended up in a gun being shoved in someone's face.

if i had to guess the money wasn't posted because someone was so sure they stealing that they forgot they had to get paid for it to matter
 
Dagwoodz said:
Both pool players and poker players are story tellers. Poker players tell stories as part of their livelihood and as general gab at the table. Pool players tell stories as a hobby sitting around the PH, and to match up. There are only a few pool players or card players that I would trust farther than I could throw them. People who know the two in question might have a different view on it...personally, I don't have a horse in this race, so I dont' trust either.
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the difference that i've noticed is that poker players tell stories about how they got rivered or lost somehow when they weren't supposed to. pool players tell stories about how they won
 
Luxury said:
I'm bummed about this poll because people are going to think that it's about this one situation involving a missing $50,000 when it's not.

Had the poll asked who do you think is lying about the $50,000 then there would be different results.
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I completely agree,Some one do another poll about who we think is lying
 
In my opinion, when you live the life of a gambler you reap what you sow. Nothing good ever comes out of it. In this one particular situation I've seen people that may have gotten along just fine in the past totally ruin any chance of being friends again in the future. Which side do I believe? I'm leaning towards Billy I's side. Jay chiming in helped me on that one. But in all fairness to both sides, I really don't give a sh!t either way. The only real opinion I have about this is that this Dippy Dave can't play pool and that if he can't win with break, ball in hand, and the 5 ball then he shouldn't be betting on pool. A decent B player would be a threat with that handicap.
MULLY
 
DD played legend after legend for 2-3 weeks straight. Besides Busty...he got drilled over and over again...and since no one else is complaining-apparently DD paid his debts. Then DD plays Frost lost/paid 100k....loses another set...and now he going to stiff Frost/BI/JC out of 50k....it doesn't make sense. If half of what was said on these forums is true regarding Scott Frost....how can anyone take his word for the truth.
 
mullyman said:
In my opinion, when you live the life of a gambler you reap what you sow. Nothing good ever comes out of it. In this one particular situation I've seen people that may have gotten along just fine in the past totally ruin any chance of being friends again in the future. Which side do I believe? I'm leaning towards Billy I's side. Jay chiming in helped me on that one. But in all fairness to both sides, I really don't give a sh!t either way. The only real opinion I have about this is that this Dippy Dave can't play pool and that if he can't win with break, ball in hand, and the 5 ball then he shouldn't be betting on pool. A decent B player would be a threat with that handicap.
MULLY
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I think we all believe Billy and Lenny.

That doesn't mean we know/believe who screwed them.

None of us can say, only Scott and Dippy knows, and it's just he said he said
 
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