punter said:
pun intended pun-ter?
Sex Change
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pun intended pun-ter?
DTL said:
Earl Strickland would be a good candidate.
Really though, there are at least 3 men who have become women here in Southern Cal. that have played in tournaments I've been in. Two of them are (or were) members of the USPPA and played decent. One of them finished very high in a women's only tournament in Vegas, it may have created a lot of controversy if she (formerly known as he) had won a couple of more matches and won the tournament.
How a bout a woman turned into a man? I just can't imagine how that person would be able to get it up ! 
Yeah , I know about women having a very strong muscle contraction, but will it work once they turned into an XY ?
Yeah , I know about women having a very strong muscle contraction, but will it work once they turned into an XY ?
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Hail Mary Shot said:How a bout a woman turned into a man? I just can't imagine how that person would be able to get it up !
Yeah , I know about women having a very strong muscle contraction, but will it work once they turned into an XY ?
Hydraulics, dude. It's what they did before cialis and viagra. It's all part of the procedure which is called an addadicktome.
Brian in VA
DTL said:
i don't think it should be allowed if that were to happen. the hormone treatments might make the muscle mass a non issue (the break)but i think the WPBA is for women. i don't know exactly what seperates women from men as far as pool but i know what keeps men and female different. even with a sex change that man would just be a man, a man with a mutilated penis but still a man
Renee Richards played on the women's pro tennis circuit in the 70's. She was originally Dr. Richard ????. She won a court battle to be allowed to play. If I remember the biggest problem was that other women didn't want her/him in the locker room. She wasn't very good so there was much complaint about playing a stronger person. Since the biggest differnce between men and women players is the break I don't see why this would not be allowed.
I asked one gay dude that at the pool hall.
He said " I'd still suck."
He said " I'd still suck."
I thought about it when I was in Vegas this year haha.
Eric.
Eric.
FYI: There was a transgendered female pro, back when the tour first got underway in the early 70's. She is now a respected cuemaker. Since then a few others have made bids to play on the pro tour (one as recently as last year) with out much success, yet. One woman, from Cali actually threaten to sue the APA when she was almost denied entry to their 8 Ball Classic Singles back in 2000, when it was separated by gender and not handicaps.
She was a 7 and ended up winning the whole thing and after that year, the APA went to the tiered handicap format they use today. I believe she has also won a few BCA titles and played on at least one of the Cali Regional tours. She is considered to legally be a woman, this is by the State of California. This would be, I assume the criteria that would have to be met.
Though I know this thread was started as a joke, the issue of transgender is an actual physical abnormality and has nothing to do with sexuality. As a matter of factor many transgender men, who are changed to women, still are attracted to women. These are people who truly feel they were born in the wrong body.
I do also remember reading about a male player, back in the early 1900's who masqueraded as a woman, as a novelty act. He was finally exposed and it was a pretty big scandal but it shows how far real women have actually come in the sport, that one playing well, in itself is not exactly a phenomenon.
She was a 7 and ended up winning the whole thing and after that year, the APA went to the tiered handicap format they use today. I believe she has also won a few BCA titles and played on at least one of the Cali Regional tours. She is considered to legally be a woman, this is by the State of California. This would be, I assume the criteria that would have to be met.
Though I know this thread was started as a joke, the issue of transgender is an actual physical abnormality and has nothing to do with sexuality. As a matter of factor many transgender men, who are changed to women, still are attracted to women. These are people who truly feel they were born in the wrong body.
I do also remember reading about a male player, back in the early 1900's who masqueraded as a woman, as a novelty act. He was finally exposed and it was a pretty big scandal but it shows how far real women have actually come in the sport, that one playing well, in itself is not exactly a phenomenon.
cuechick said:
Do you have a PLAN B?
I can't believe the line of question, but I'm going to give you the benefit of doubt and ask you a serious question. The procedure is not simple and quick, for sure. And of course, we all know, it's very hard to make a decent living just playing pool. You must have sponsors, endorsements, and events. In women's pool, it definitely helps to get a better start if you look "HOT". In order to look hot as a women, you then will need after SNIP & TUCK, boob job, nose job, eye lift to soften your lines, shave your jaw line, chin line, chin implants, reduction of frontal bones (this softens brow lines), otoplasty (reduces ears to look more feminine), and don't forget the Tracheal shave (this reduces adams apple, ouch, sounds painful!) and the list can only go on and on...
So after all this and what if you still can't make a living?
DTL said:
I can't believe the line of question, but I'm going to give you the benefit of doubt and ask you a serious question. The procedure is not simple and quick, for sure. And of course, we all know, it's very hard to make a decent living just playing pool. You must have sponsors, endorsements, and events. In women's pool, it definitely helps to get a better start if you look "HOT". In order to look hot as a women, you then will need after SNIP & TUCK, boob job, nose job, eye lift to soften your lines, shave your jaw line, chin line, chin implants, reduction of frontal bones (this softens brow lines), otoplasty (reduces ears to look more feminine), and don't forget the Tracheal shave (this reduces adams apple, ouch, sounds painful!) and the list can only go on and on...
So after all this and what if you still can't make a living?
I played in another regional women's tour a few years ago and there was a player in the tournament who had a small beard. She was beginning the process of getting a sex change (I guess). The tournament directors didn't say anything to her but were wondering when they would have to.
Actually, this situation came up in my tour during one State Championship event. The transgendered person in question was in line to win the Qualifier and since there were a few people who knew of the situation and asked me about it, I had to ask the WPBA.
Their response - and this person is no longer in the office - was that the person had to be fully certified as a "Transgendered Individual" with documentation from a certified doctor who did the surgery. That is, no inbetween like a cross dresser or drag queen, the operation had to be complete.
I personally know another transgendered person and I can say that they go through mental hell with their life until they make the decision. And it took this person about 40 years from age 3, one spouse and two kids before that decision was made. This person is still my friend, being that the sex change operation did nothing to the intelligence of this person.
Now here's the question, and I put this out lightheartedly. When a man transforms to a woman and takes up with another woman, can the transgendered person be considered a lesbian?
Barbara
Their response - and this person is no longer in the office - was that the person had to be fully certified as a "Transgendered Individual" with documentation from a certified doctor who did the surgery. That is, no inbetween like a cross dresser or drag queen, the operation had to be complete.
I personally know another transgendered person and I can say that they go through mental hell with their life until they make the decision. And it took this person about 40 years from age 3, one spouse and two kids before that decision was made. This person is still my friend, being that the sex change operation did nothing to the intelligence of this person.
Now here's the question, and I put this out lightheartedly. When a man transforms to a woman and takes up with another woman, can the transgendered person be considered a lesbian?
Barbara
Barbara said:
no, an operation doesn't actually change the sex only the appearance
DTL said:
Can you say DESPERATE?
