punter said:They might let you play.... you may do pretty good... but I don't think you would have the nuts.
pun intended pun-ter?
punter said:They might let you play.... you may do pretty good... but I don't think you would have the nuts.
DTL said:I'm a frequent visitor to this site but rarely post anything. I know what your thinking - "Sex Change", WTF?
Anyway, I'm a player...pretty decent --> finished 13th in the U.S. Open, 11th in the 9-Ball at the DCC the same year, have won on semi-pro tours (Planet 9-Ball), can occasionally run 100 balls in straight pool, etc. Having said that, I know that I will never be able to make a living playing on the mens' pro tour. However, I think I could make a living playing on the WPBA tour. Now, I would NEVER, EVER to this but if I or someone like me got a sex change do you think they would be allowed to play on the women's tour.
wayne said:Earl Strickland would be a good candidate.
Really though, there are at least 3 men who have become women here in Southern Cal. that have played in tournaments I've been in. Two of them are (or were) members of the USPPA and played decent. One of them finished very high in a women's only tournament in Vegas, it may have created a lot of controversy if she (formerly known as he) had won a couple of more matches and won the tournament.
Hail Mary Shot said:How a bout a woman turned into a man? I just can't imagine how that person would be able to get it up !
Yeah , I know about women having a very strong muscle contraction, but will it work once they turned into an XY ?
DTL said:I'm a frequent visitor to this site but rarely post anything. I know what your thinking - "Sex Change", WTF?
Anyway, I'm a player...pretty decent --> finished 13th in the U.S. Open, 11th in the 9-Ball at the DCC the same year, have won on semi-pro tours (Planet 9-Ball), can occasionally run 100 balls in straight pool, etc. Having said that, I know that I will never be able to make a living playing on the mens' pro tour. However, I think I could make a living playing on the WPBA tour. Now, I would NEVER, EVER to this but if I or someone like me got a sex change do you think they would be allowed to play on the women's tour.
DTL said:I'm a frequent visitor to this site but rarely post anything. I know what your thinking - "Sex Change", WTF?
Anyway, I'm a player...pretty decent --> finished 13th in the U.S. Open, 11th in the 9-Ball at the DCC the same year, have won on semi-pro tours (Planet 9-Ball), can occasionally run 100 balls in straight pool, etc. Having said that, I know that I will never be able to make a living playing on the mens' pro tour. However, I think I could make a living playing on the WPBA tour. Now, I would NEVER, EVER to this but if I or someone like me got a sex change do you think they would be allowed to play on the women's tour.
cuechick said:FYI: There was a transgendered female pro, back when the tour first got underway in the early 70's. She is now a respected cuemaker. Since then a few others have made bids to play on the pro tour (one as recently as last year) with out much success, yet. One woman, from Cali actually threaten to sue the APA when she was almost denied entry to their 8 Ball Classic Singles back in 2000, when it was separated by gender and not handicaps.
She was a 7 and ended up winning the whole thing and after that year, the APA went to the tiered handicap format they use today. I believe she has also won a few BCA titles and played on at least one of the Cali Regional tours. She is considered to legally be a woman, this is by the State of California. This would be, I assume the criteria that would have to be met.
Though I know this thread was started as a joke, the issue of transgender is an actual physical abnormality and has nothing to do with sexuality. As a matter of factor many transgender men, who are changed to women, still are attracted to women. These are people who truly feel they were born in the wrong body.
feeling like you're born in the wrong body and changind your sexual organs doesn't make you that different gender. while it may make them feel more cumfortable legaly or not they're still not that gender. if i felt like i should have been born with claws and had my hands surgically changed to claws would that mean i had claws? no, it'd mean i had mutilated hands that looked like claws
DTL said:I'm a frequent visitor to this site but rarely post anything. I know what your thinking - "Sex Change", WTF?
Anyway, I'm a player...pretty decent --> finished 13th in the U.S. Open, 11th in the 9-Ball at the DCC the same year, have won on semi-pro tours (Planet 9-Ball), can occasionally run 100 balls in straight pool, etc. Having said that, I know that I will never be able to make a living playing on the mens' pro tour. However, I think I could make a living playing on the WPBA tour. Now, I would NEVER, EVER to this but if I or someone like me got a sex change do you think they would be allowed to play on the women's tour.
cuechick said:FYI: There was a transgendered female pro, back when the tour first got underway in the early 70's. She is now a respected cuemaker. Since then a few others have made bids to play on the pro tour (one as recently as last year) with out much success, yet. One woman, from Cali actually threaten to sue the APA when she was almost denied entry to their 8 Ball Classic Singles back in 2000, when it was separated by gender and not handicaps.
She was a 7 and ended up winning the whole thing and after that year, the APA went to the tiered handicap format they use today. I believe she has also won a few BCA titles and played on at least one of the Cali Regional tours. She is considered to legally be a woman, this is by the State of California. This would be, I assume the criteria that would have to be met.
Though I know this thread was started as a joke, the issue of transgender is an actual physical abnormality and has nothing to do with sexuality. As a matter of factor many transgender men, who are changed to women, still are attracted to women. These are people who truly feel they were born in the wrong body.
I do also remember reading about a male player, back in the early 1900's who masqueraded as a woman, as a novelty act. He was finally exposed and it was a pretty big scandal but it shows how far real women have actually come in the sport, that one playing well, in itself is not exactly a phenomenon.
Barbara said:Actually, this situation came up in my tour during one State Championship event. The transgendered person in question was in line to win the Qualifier and since there were a few people who knew of the situation and asked me about it, I had to ask the WPBA.
Their response - and this person is no longer in the office - was that the person had to be fully certified as a "Transgendered Individual" with documentation from a certified doctor who did the surgery. That is, no inbetween like a cross dresser or drag queen, the operation had to be complete.
I personally know another transgendered person and I can say that they go through mental hell with their life until they make the decision. And it took this person about 40 years from age 3, one spouse and two kids before that decision was made. This person is still my friend, being that the sex change operation did nothing to the intelligence of this person.
Now here's the question, and I put this out lightheartedly. When a man transforms to a woman and takes up with another woman, can the transgendered person be considered a lesbian?
Barbara
Barbara
DTL said:I'm a frequent visitor to this site but rarely post anything. I know what your thinking - "Sex Change", WTF?
Anyway, I'm a player...pretty decent --> finished 13th in the U.S. Open, 11th in the 9-Ball at the DCC the same year, have won on semi-pro tours (Planet 9-Ball), can occasionally run 100 balls in straight pool, etc. Having said that, I know that I will never be able to make a living playing on the mens' pro tour. However, I think I could make a living playing on the WPBA tour. Now, I would NEVER, EVER to this but if I or someone like me got a sex change do you think they would be allowed to play on the women's tour.