What happened after that match, when Shane played Earl 9b race to 100?? Shane beat Earl so bad, he offered Earl a spot if he wanted to play again...LOL
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What happened after that match, when Shane played Earl 9b race to 100?? Shane beat Earl so bad, he offered Earl a spot if he wanted to play again...LOL
Lol who didn't know that would be your stance , no doubt your stance would be different had SVB won that match ,,
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My opinion would have been the same regardless of who played on that piece of shit for a pool table.
What it did show however, was Shane's willingness to play ANYONE under whatever conditions they required in order to match up. I find it funny, that even today Shane has to agree to last minute rule changes, shorter races and what ever else to match up with anyone, because no one today is willing to match up with Shane in a race to 100 10b, without throwing in some kind of stipulations first that they feel will change the odds of winning in their favor, a d yet Shane don't require any special rules to play him....why is that??
PS, kind of reminds me of when Eric Butterbean was called the king of the 4 rounders because he'd fight ANYONE in a boxing match for 4 rounds, most of the best heavyweights at the time avoided taking him up on his offer because he was a 6' tall, 320lb bull, and for 4 rounds he could beat the hell out of anyone, requardless of how great they were suppose to be.
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Butterbean was circus side show by Don King.
Please. Tyson and company would killed him.
Old grampa Larry Holmes fought him and Blubberbean ate a ton of jabs from grandpa Holmes..
I guess you don't watch boxing much. Butterbean knocked Holmes down, and fought a 10 rounder against him. Tyson never accepted Butterbeans challenge, why not?
Stick to pool Glen. Evidently, you are clueless about boxing.
I don't watch much boxing ? Sorry, I've watched more boxing before I turned 30 than you have all your life. Used to watch Boxing at the Olympic ( weekly ) called by the hall of fame announcer Jim Healey. Even watched boxing on spanish UHF channels. Don't make me ask you boxing questions you can't google .
Butterbean was Tyson's and Julio Chavez's undercard sideshow freak.
He lost to a 5-3-1 Billy Zumbrun.
Why in the hell would Tyson fight his own sideshow freak ?
Blubberbean would not even survive a sparring session with Tyson.
If you think Blubberbean had any shot at beating Tyson, you are really clueless.
So, Blubberbean lost a 10-round decision to old man Larry Holmes ( Larry was over 50 and that was his last fight ) but you think Blubberbean would have beat world contenders AND Tyson in FOUR ROUNDS?
Stick to pool.
Joey~ Was a contributing writer for Prizefightnews.com ~
Not an expert....but watched a fair amount of fights since I was 13 years old.
...my favorite fighter was Alexis Arguello...how far out of line is that?
...wouldn’t mind a quick run down
...might be Mayweather now
Great boxer. Nicknamed the Skinny Man from Nicaragua .
Won 3 division titles when it was still hard feat because there were only two boxing bodies. He was the original Mexican Assassin because he beat so many Mexican greats.
Tried to win his fourth but was derailed by Aaron Pryor at 140 ( twice ) of course . Could have taken an easier route in winning his fourth belt but chose to face Pryor instead.
Sadly, he dealt with CTE and killed himself in Nicaragua.
Thanx, Joey
I watched his fight with Pryor
Everybody, it seemed, in the pool hall liked Pryor.....
...so I told them I’d rather lose on Alexis than win on Aaron...
...cost me a few hundred, but I don’t regret it.
Yeah, a tough loss.
The Explosive Skinny Man lost a really grueling fight.
Was almost unconscious when Pryor hit him with a dozen or so of bombs while he was trapped in the ropes.
Alexis was the betting favorite in that fight .
Pryor was no pushover though. The man was really hungry.
But, his trainer was later on banned for life for tampering with his boxer's gloves.
Panama Lewis who gave Pryor the magic bottle was caught tampering with his boxer's gloves in the Duran-Moore undercard in NY.
His boxer later , Luis Resto, later ( after he got out of prison ) on claimed not only were the horsehair padding on his gloves removed, Lewis also also game him plaster of Paris under his wraps.
Really when has Shane given up the Nuts , the TAR table was considered Shane's home table
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... and I'll add that SVB usually insisted on "rack your own" in big money matches.
sponsorship
One thing not mentioned is Shane gets a solid cash sponsorship these days. That alone is enough to ensure he doesn't have the same hunger he had before. He has seen cuetec hang with their sponsored players for many years after their best so he knows they won't dump him if he doesn't win every big event. Knowing that he has a steady income takes a little of the edge off. The years are starting to catch up too. Older players can sometimes overcome the effects of age but the grinds don't come as easy as they did when he was in his twenties. Still a lot of good years and wins ahead of him but nature of the beast his wins won't come as easily as they once did.
Hu
One thing not mentioned is Shane gets a solid cash sponsorship these days. That alone is enough to ensure he doesn't have the same hunger he had before. He has seen cuetec hang with their sponsored players for many years after their best so he knows they won't dump him if he doesn't win every big event. Knowing that he has a steady income takes a little of the edge off. The years are starting to catch up too. Older players can sometimes overcome the effects of age but the grinds don't come as easy as they did when he was in his twenties. Still a lot of good years and wins ahead of him but nature of the beast his wins won't come as easily as they once did.
Hu
Some very good points here, but Shane is 35 and very much in his playing prime. It's easy, and for some comforting, to think his mediocre 2019 is due to being less hungry, but I, for one, am not buying it.
Shane still plays great. We all know it, but as many on this forum have noted, the world's talent pool has never been deeper. That, more than anything, is why the wins won't come as easily.
If, as some believe, Asian participation in US-based events is on the rise and the Chinese/Taiwanese invasion is in full bloom, winning the big titles in the US will be a lot more difficult.
Everyone, SVB, included must be on full alert.
I think this is a good point worth highlighting. China/Taiwan used to be fairly insular, only appearing in regional or WPC. But they’re making trips out more frequently than before (if the money is good of course). The playing field is generally getting tougher, but great for spectators!
Skill level, very much in his prime. Physically, nope not quite the same he was ten years ago. Nobody else is either. We might take up a new activity and train our body to a higher level than it has ever been but it still doesn't have the same potential it had ten years before. Vision, organs, systems, nothing is working quite as well. That is why I decided in my teens if I wasn't where I wanted to be with my first dream by the time I was twenty-five I would forget it.
The talent pool is growing wider, just means that the little edges are that much more important. A ten or fifteen time world champion shot in a local pistol match placing fourth or fifth. It wasn't that he wasn't the class of the field by a bunch. He was relaxing on a trip to his home town. Every young gun that stood a remote chance was putting their utmost into beating him. He had shot the local matches many times in the past but not lately and that might have worked against him also. Like Shane's playing field, ours had leveled out quite a bit too. He hadn't been there and might not have realized the effort and score needed to win. His score that made him an also ran would have won a few years before.
Even when Shane was the best it wasn't by a huge margin. It is going to take some effort and a little luck to get his clearcut #1 ranking back.
Hu
Vegas 18th April
The two days before the open started, I watched Shane at Griffs getting knocked out.
I saw him at the 2017 US Open (there I saw him, run a 7? pack the match after he found out his GrMa had just passed) I saw his next match or two and he was gone, his body language at the 2017 Open was lock down good.
Now 2019....FF to Griffs warm-up in Vegas before the US Open, I saw counterproductive body language of all types, from Shane. Not good is my read, I then watched that body language carryover at Mandalay. Hope he's not becoming.... ''Earled''.
The two days before the open started, I watched Shane at Griffs getting knocked out.
I saw him at the 2017 US Open (there I saw him, run a 7? pack the match after he found out his GrMa had just passed) I saw his next match or two and he was gone, his body language at the 2017 Open was lock down good.
Now 2019....FF to Griffs warm-up in Vegas before the US Open, I saw counterproductive body language of all types, from Shane. Not good is my read, I then watched that body language carryover at Mandalay. Hope he's not becoming.... ''Earled''.
Good post. Agreed that SVB's body language has changed. Still, even at age 35, he had his best ever Mosconi Cup and played very well at the World 9-ball Championships in December, winning bronze after falling in the semis to the defending champion.
I see this your way. SVB has lost a little confidence, and to me, it shouldn't be that way. New killers have emerged in our sport and winning the big stuff is harder than ever before. In 2017, America had just one major event with WPA points on the line, and that was the US Open. In 2019, America has four (US Open, Players Championship, International 9-ball, and World 10-ball).
We'll all have to get used to the fact that, with four WPA sanctioned events on our pool calendar, so many more of the true greats will be here in America competing.
Unless he finds a gear higher than what he showed in 2010-15, SVB will not be able to produce the results he once could .... but I'd love to be wrong about this.
You clearly missed my point so I'll make it simple for you. When was the last time someone played Shane a race to a 100, who was it, and what was the outcome????