Shane vs Jesse Bowman

gopi-1 said:
Jesse lacks challenge? Send him to the Philippines, but tell him to bring a lot of dough...

Then, send Shane over with an empty suitcase to bring the dough back in. :D
 
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Don't let this turn into a feeding frenzy on Jess. He is not some dumb hick living in a cornfield. He has more heart than anyone I've ever known.

That kid (OK, he's not so much of a kid anymore) will step up (cold) and play anyone...for just about anything. He's been doing that for the 13 or so years I've known him. I've seen him offer serious $$$ games to the premier of the sport and I've never seen him duck a game.

As far as not being challenged locally...that's rather true but Jess will travel long distances to get in action. Further, road players know where he is if they want some. The game is there for all those that want it, but you don't hear of a lot of road players stopping off in the Quad Cities do you? Think about that.

Yes, it is rare to see Jess pick up a cue to practice. He told me one time that he doesn't "practice" because he doesn't get paid to practice. That is his mentality about it. Tourneys & gambling ARE his "practice". He only plays under pressure.

Before you jump on the "Jess is a dumb hick" bandwagon...ask yourself, do you have the steel to step up and play like Jess does? If you do, stop by the Quad Cities and I'm sure Jess will "practice" with you.
 
JCIN said:
A friend called from Vegas and said this is supposed to off after the players meeting tonight.

Race to 13, 8ball on the bar box 2 sets ahead for respectable dough.

Shane will not lose two sets in a row on the box to any human right now.

Gotta go now. Will try to post via BlackBerry if I here anything.


If this happened in VEGAS, is Jessie still there? Are there any more match ups with him that you have heard about?
 
jay helfert said:
Why am I not surprised? This kid beat Orcullo a month ago, and Jesse wouldn't have a prayer with him either.

Jesse plays a nice game. But Shane has become a monster. I predict 13-6 or 13-7 second set.

Jay, I would say your bold prediction about SVB soon becoming the best looks even more like a great call now. I've never had the pleasure of seeing him play live but I have seen Jess play and I thought he was the best barboxer I'd seen in a long time. Looking at this thread it appears handed him his a** and combine that with some of his recent tourney finishes and it looks like he's climbing the ladder to greatness.
 
StrokeofLuck said:
Jay, I would say your bold prediction about SVB soon becoming the best looks even more like a great call now. I've never had the pleasure of seeing him play live but I have seen Jess play and I thought he was the best barboxer I'd seen in a long time. Looking at this thread it appears handed him his a** and combine that with some of his recent tourney finishes and it looks like he's climbing the ladder to greatness.

Shane just had the right make up to be a champion. A combination of desire, confidence, competitiveness, discipline, heart, character and sheer determination. And when you throw in some real ability, you have a winner.

I thought Jon Kucharo would go far too, but he fell victim to one of life's great distractions, alcohol. Too bad, he could really play. But his psyche was too fragile. Shane, on the other hand, is very strong mentally. I don't see him getting sidetracked.
 
jay helfert said:
I thought Jon Kucharo would go far too, but he fell victim to one of life's great distractions, alcohol.
As we've discussed in past PM's...I agree with your opinion of Jon. He had everything he needed to ascend to the highest levels but life got the better of him. I learned so much from him and I fondly remember those years. It's such a pity that he couldn't hold it together for a few more.
 
So I lost a little on jesse this time around that doesnt mean I would bet against him next time. I knew going into it it would be a break contest, Both SVB and JB are capable of running out a race to 13 at anytime. It did hurt a bit betting against a guy from SD as I have some fond memories of the few years I spent there. But thanks tanner and nasty for a little absentee fun.
 
ok hold on..........

1. shag your welcome and a great guy to do business with!
2."shane plays champions everyday" what are you talking about? he plays alone in a basement of a poolhall with concrete walls and no windows! and when he does come out of the celler, i can assure you he doesnt play champions, becouse i cant run 4 balls in a row! there are about 3 people that play shane and none of us are even close to aa shooters! please put an end to that playing champions everyday theory!
3.jesse bouwman...lets see if a line starts now to play him! i will take the under! ive known jesse for years and he and the quad citys gang are friends of mine! if you think he is on a playing in a cornfield, bring all your money and head to the quad citys! you will find its no "field of dreams" i will say that jesse is gonna be around for years to come! and if i know jesse like i think i do, dont count him out! he will be looking for shane soon!
 
Yer def right on num 3. There are quite a few really good players that live very close to or in the quad cities. Chad Vilmont, James Barracks, Kucharro isnt to far away, Josh Johnson. And those are just in the city limits. If anyone does happen to pass through the Bowman pool hall you will find players at all levels that are willing to step up. Be warned they are all good gamblers so bring your best game. I think what they are reffering to as far as shane playing champions is that shane has been travelling a lot more than jesse recently so his game has been challenged to a greater degree. As far as i know Jesse has still offered the world guaranteed 10k of action if they show up to play him in moline. Havent heard of anyone taking that as of yet.
 
PROG8R said:
Knowing his game and having the pleasure of watching him play is an awesome experience for me. It kind of sickens me that he doesn't take it seriously anymore, and doesn't practice hardly if at all anymore. I think that has something to do with not being challenged by it or anyone near him anymore and he has grown bored. I would bet that if he moved to ... let's say the Springhill area that he would do very well in a rematch after a few months of being just in the middle of the top instead of being the very top.
Shane gets to play world champions everyday and gets his game pushed to its max, Jessie lives in a corn field and doesnt have many people around him that can push him.


In a corn field...come and see what we've got here in the Quad. Cities!!! Jamie Bowman can hang too. How about Jamie Baraks, Chad Villmont (sp?), Josh Johnson, and many others. There's no shortage of very good players here. Most tend to stay under the radar instead of in the spotlight. Jesse doesn't have that many people to push him to that caliber, but that doesnt' mean he couldn't still be at the top. He does take pool seriously, he just doesn't put in the 8 hour days to practice...his is IMO the epitome of natural talent. He can manufacture a run-out from anywhere.

Kudos to Shane...it takes a world-class player to beat another world-class player. At least these two had the stones to get up and play some instead of woofing for months on here about matches and then not playing them when they can't get any "stealing" action.

Stop talkin' and start chalkin'!!!
 
Shane and Dennis at the BCA

Shane won the first set of 8 ball hill hill on the bar table and Dennis asked to play 9 ball and Shane said no. Then Shane won the second set. He did not want to play Dennis 9 ball. I am sure the Filipinos would be more than happy to take his action.

Steve
 
iasaxman said:
In a corn field...come and see what we've got here in the Quad. Cities!!! Jamie Bowman can hang too. How about Jamie Baraks, Chad Villmont (sp?), Josh Johnson, and many others. There's no shortage of very good players here. Most tend to stay under the radar instead of in the spotlight. Jesse doesn't have that many people to push him to that caliber, but that doesnt' mean he couldn't still be at the top. He does take pool seriously, he just doesn't put in the 8 hour days to practice...his is IMO the epitome of natural talent. He can manufacture a run-out from anywhere.

Kudos to Shane...it takes a world-class player to beat another world-class player. At least these two had the stones to get up and play some instead of woofing for months on here about matches and then not playing them when they can't get any "stealing" action.

Stop talkin' and start chalkin'!!!

LOOK
I think that you and BIG_NASTY have taken what I said the wrong way. I have been a big fan and stood behind Jessie's game for a very long time. That kid has more natural talent than most people, that are currently ranked pros, but if you are going to try and tell me that Iowa and the part if Illinois aren’t corn fields, or that anyone there is a real threat to him the I am going to have to disagree with you.
BIG_NASTY are you trying to tell me that Shane doest play more world champions than Jessie? You are out of your mind, he might be in his basement lots, but he is also a PRO and he was doing just fine playing talent on the IPT before it bellied up and the at the BCA pro event, and the 10 ball, USOPEN< ETC... those people he was matching up with were much better than the level of talent around Jessie. That was my point. They are both STUDS and young with unlimited potential. It all comes down to their drive, goals, and environment. If Jessie lived in FL and got to play in the 10 tour then I could only imagine how his game would grow. Instead of being the favorite at everything he played he would be a top ten guy for a while and not the top guy.
 
ok...

jesse has had way better players around him in his carrer! there are 6 players in his home area that play evan or 1 ball less than jesse! when shane was coming up he had 1 player that played great around him! at the age of 21 shane left the nest! that was his decision! jesse stayed! also his decision!
from 21 to present day i will agree with you! shane is out in the thick of it, becouse "HE" wants to be! Shane strives for the win! he goes aftyer them! and that is the decision he made! i hope shane beating jesse will fire jesse up again! he is a animal! like i stated before, lets see if people are gona run to play jesse now! ill take the under!:D
 
That is pretty much in in a nutshell. GOD, I hope it lights Jessie up and he leaves more and travles more and gets into it more. I think his current line of thought is similar to that of a young Stevie Moore. I hope he will finally get out and we can all watch his game blossom to where it should be. The kid has a gift that is being wasted. At least for now Shane has taken full advantage of what he was blessed with. Way to go boy!!
 
good.............

PROG8R said:
That is pretty much in in a nutshell. GOD, I hope it lights Jessie up and he leaves more and travles more and gets into it more. I think his current line of thought is similar to that of a young Stevie Moore. I hope he will finally get out and we can all watch his game blossom to where it should be. The kid has a gift that is being wasted. At least for now Shane has taken full advantage of what he was blessed with. Way to go boy!!
I am excited to see if jesse fires up now! ive known him for about 5 years and he is a player! :D
 
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