Shaw concedes down 5-0

Kickin' Chicken said:
My first thought when things like this happen are with the bettors and you have to figure there def was money on a match between these two guys so, sad for the game and for any who placed a bet on Jayson. Plus, in a winner break format, as we've seen before, Jayson is never out.

The FB comments above soundf like they were made out of frustration and I think there is some merit to them being frustrated but still, I hate to hear whenever something like this takes place. Whatever year it was that everyone got snowed in at DCC, I watched as Jayson got shellaced 9-0 by Pinegar who couldn't miss a ball and within minutes of that match ending my phone rang and it was Jayson calling to tell me that he wanted to sell his Diamond table because he wanted to replace it with a Chinese 8b table and that's just what he did. The reason was that he just saw his good friend Darren taking down the Chinese 8b event and getting $30k for winning. Of course we are now seeing that event paying more than 10 times that amount to the winners.

So, yes, it appears some of the top players who because they are so talented, they go deep and the schedule at DCC is gruelling creating a very tough atmosphere - it could be a reality show. Boot camp at Camp LeJeune while playing marathone pool.

Things finally appear to be changing for the positve in pool but I can understand them wanting better conditions at this event and certainly compared to other sports, better payouts for sure. But for the sake of the bettors and the fans, please play your matches to the very end.

Greg Sullivan &Pat Flemming are good guys and are reasonable and if approached by the players I'm sure a good solution could be reached that would create a win-win for ther players, sponsors, the guys who put the event on and the fans.

One last thing to mention. I know that Jayson has the ability to rub some people the wrtong way but I promise that if you got to know him even just a little bit, you would see what a great guy he actually is. If you're ever at an event and you see him go over and say hello. He's got an awful lot on his plate between his various businesses, sponsors, family, and we see when he is playing a match he goes into beast mode but underneath all that he's a genuine good guy - and a helluva sense of humor, too. Or as they say in Scotland, humour lol.
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i think darren won 100k actually. this would have been around 2015.
 
Bob Jewett said:
For those who missed it the first eight times.... Copied from a post from last year.

They don't have to give up buy-back -- just their broken version of it.

For those who missed it the first seven times I posted it here:

Run 16-player qualifiers, single elimination. Win your qualifier and you get into the main event, also single, 64 spots.

If you are one of the 15 who lost in your qualifier, you can enter again. And again, And again until the qualifiers fill the big board or it is time to start the final 64 tournament.

This keeps all the tables busy. You could probably have 1024 total entries per event counting buy-backs.

Simple. Much easier to run that what they have now. You don't loose the buybacks. Much easier on the players, because they could see the full schedule for their qualifier. If you lose, you can rest a little and then re-enter if you feel like it. You could schedule the first day a week ahead of time and others could arrive a day late. Players in the final rounds of banks wouldn't be playing in the starting one pocket qualifiers at all -- they would start in later qualifiers. Etc.

And on the particular point of slow play, a snail only slows down his qualifier and it probably just means he has very short breaks between matches.
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So I don't have to look it up, Can you tell me what the entry fee is and what the buy back price is? And how many actually do the buyback process on average?
 
Being there for the first time this year, I saw many unused tables while waiting for rounds to finish for the buyback and draw and all that. I had one morning match, won and didn't play again until 1:30pm the next day. Minimum time between matches for myself was about 4 to 5 hours. Had to get on a flight while being undefeated in 9 ball, lol.
 
Cornerman said:
The players were playing some 18 hours straight on the last day of the Derby, which already is going to be beyond exhausting. I absolutely don’t blame Jayson one bit given the circumstances.
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I agree if it is from exhaustion. However you just don't start the match then.
I did it in last 3 of a state tourney. Couldn't go, been playing all day and previous night. Bowed out before the match started.
 
BeiberLvr said:
Darren made post about it being a young man's event now and it shouldn't even classify as a ranking event.

Then Jayson replied

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It would be interesting to know which top players said the same thing, and what percentage of them are over the age of 30
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Well Jayson and Darren, the event wasn't really made specifically for you if you think about it. Dead money keeps the event going and shortstops as well as great regional players mixed with a few pros will keep people coming to the tournament.
 
That's all fine and dandy... unless you are a Shaw fan and have a $5k bet on that match!
when Shaw threw his hat in the ring, he knew what he was signing up for...
Man-Up and complete the mission.
JS is an incredible shot maker. But sadly, he is also the biggest baby in pool.

I got to spend some time with the Fillers on the practice tables at DCC last week.
I was impressed at how polite and considerate they were to everyone.
I wasn't much of a Filler fan last month, but I am now.
 
doublethecorner said:
That's all fine and dandy... unless you are a Shaw fan and have a $5k bet on that match!
when Shaw threw his hat in the ring, he knew what he was signing up for...
Man-Up and complete the mission.
JS is an incredible shot maker. But sadly, he is also the biggest baby in pool.

I got to spend some time with the Fillers on the practice tables at DCC last week.
I was impressed at how polite and considerate they were to everyone.
I wasn't much of a Filler fan last month, but I am now.
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he was never going to win the match though. the little he played he looked tired, whereas filler not only had MoT incentives but also showed in subsequent matches that he had plenty of gas left in the tank. played a TPA .975 match to beat a very strong morra, etc. but i still think he should have played the entire match
 
doublethecorner said:
That's all fine and dandy... unless you are a Shaw fan and have a $5k bet on that match!
when Shaw threw his hat in the ring, he knew what he was signing up for...
Man-Up and complete the mission.
JS is an incredible shot maker. But sadly, he is also the biggest baby in pool.

I got to spend some time with the Fillers on the practice tables at DCC last week.
I was impressed at how polite and considerate they were to everyone.
I wasn't much of a Filler fan last month, but I am now.
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You are choosing to bet on something where you aren't in control of the outcome. Player demeanor, etc... is part of the decision when betting.
 
DCC should do the 9ball first if they're going to make it a ranking event.
That will mean all the players are unaffected by the scheduling and there will be no excuses. That division will be just like every other MR 9ball event. The way it is set up, there is an advantage to the young players due to their increased stamina in such a long event. They can always forfeit out of the banks or 1P without impacting their points race. With the increased popularity of 1P, fans will still stick around/ tune in if it's at the end.
 
As an American I would like to hate on Shaw. I just can't, I have met him and at one time helped him with a difficult task and he is not the villain. Just a player who has seen and done it all.

Shaw has an incredible game and a personal life that is rivaling his pool career. At one point we have to decide what is more important. It seems that Jayson may have made that call in the early morning hours.

This is not the first time a player has decided to give it up, until we are in that situation who are we to judge the decision.
 
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