should we make new tournament rule/ipods?

LOL at how impatient and self righteous we as a society are becoming.

"OMG....I had to wait 3-4 minutes for him to shoot."

Seriously.....180-240 seconds of your time are taken up and its such an inconvenience??

I agree it may not be the most polite thing(I leave my phone in my cue case while I'm playing, but thats just me personally), but maybe we should just exercise a little patience.

Obviously if it becomes a problem where "everyone" in a tournament is taking 3-4 minutes every other shot to text, this will slow down things exponentially, but if a guy sends a text out every once in a while....just forget about it.

Me thinks this has more to do with people not playing well or their opponent playing well and they just want something to ***** about.
 
Icon of Sin said:
You're right about the hypocrisy, which is why I corrected my quote.

Along the lines of the etiquette quotes you posted, these people have no link to our current day or the situation we are talking about and are therefore void. They are from business practices or from an era that is long gone, much like the etiqquette beliefs that you are spouting about.

Sorry, but neither apply pool or the current generation.
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You couldn't be more wrong.

Good etiquette transcends generational divides sir. Some things are just true regardless of when they were said. I hope that at some point you realize this. Good luck to you.

mia said:
Lol. I don't think its ok to make a call during a movie. But I DO find it puzzling that me, sitting in a seat, looking at something in my hand, an action that makes absolutely ZERO noise and requires little to no movement (unless you're having a seizure at the moment) could be considered a distraction to you OR, even more baffling, a sign of disrespect.

If everyone held themselves to that standard then this thread most likely wouldn't exist. Unfortunately you're in the minority, IMHO.

Now, if I walked around the table, phone in hand, texting between shots, taking calls and talking, taking breaks so that I could text my friend about something stupid that happened the night before, etc., then yeah. There's no place for that. As well, I would never do that.


But if I'm sitting still while you're doing YOUR thing at the table, I don't see how looking down at my hand could be distracting OR disrespectful. If you could explain that to me, perhaps I'd change my mind on the matter. But until then, I just think you need to realize that this isn't as horrible as you're making it out to be. Its more of a pet peeve. That's all.
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It's more than a pet peeve Mia and if everyone behaved as you then it wouldn't be a problem. Thing is, too many people do far more than what you do. They hold up shots, stop in the middle of their turn at the table to check their phone, etc. I've had opponents phones ring while I'm down on my shot, that is a distraction.

Let me ask you what I feel is a reasonable question. The average pool match lasts for 45 minutes(give or take 15), is this really too long for you to be out of touch with your cell phone?
 
George said:
Let me ask you what I feel is a reasonable question. The average pool match lasts for 45 minutes(give or take 15), is this really too long for you to be out of touch with your cell phone?
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That question is relative. To some people, their smart phone is very much an extension of their life nowadays. I don't personally look at mine while playing, but that is a personal decision and I understand some people feel differently.

If your opponent wants to clean his shaft, wash his hands, eat, etc no one cares. These things are considered normal in everyday life. Phone's and PDAs are now considered normal and everyday life.

Times and etiquette are changing.
 
George said:
You couldn't be more wrong.

Good etiquette transcends generational divides sir. Some things are just true regardless of when they were said. I hope that at some point you realize this. Good luck to you.
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Exactly!!!!!!
 
George said:
You couldn't be more wrong.

Good etiquette transcends generational divides sir. Some things are just true regardless of when they were said. I hope that at some point you realize this. Good luck to you.
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Ditto .............
 
vapoolplayer said:
That question is relative.

I disagree, it is a very simple yes or no question. You can or can't separate yourself from your cell long enough to compete in a pool match? Your behavior puts your answer at yes you can. Thank you.

To some people, their smart phone is very much an extension of their life nowadays. I don't personally look at mine while playing, but that is a personal decision and I understand some people feel differently.


If your opponent wants to clean his shaft, wash his hands, eat, etc no one cares. These things are considered normal in everyday life. Phone's and PDAs are now considered normal and everyday life.

Times and etiquette are changing.
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Times are changing, etiquette for the most part shouldn't. Since when is there an expiration date on manners?
A pool match is a competitive event, show me another competitive event where using your cell is an acceptable practice please.
 
Sorry if I am repeating what others said. I haven't read past the first page. My opinion is that any delays should be kept to a minimum. Writing a text message can wait until the match is done. If not, try and do it while your opponent is at the table. Or better yet, do it between games. It is just common curtiousy.
 
George said:
Let me ask you what I feel is a reasonable question. The average pool match lasts for 45 minutes(give or take 15), is this really too long for you to be out of touch with your cell phone?
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I have a wife, a son, and a job that often requires some kind of attention. So is 45 mins give or take too long to ignore calls from my family? Yes. It is. If I get a text from my wife, I respond. She's more important than any pool match. And if she knows I'm playing pool but texts me anyway, its important. Period. Looking at a small, hand sized black device should have no bearing on what someone else is doing 5 feet away. Its not a sign of disrespect. Its a way of showing respect to the appropriate party. Like it or not, my wife and my family get more respect than someone I'll spend 45 mins (give or take) playing a game with and then moving on. I'm not tap dancing while you shoot. I'm not signing out loud. And I'm not even talking on the phone. Its a text message. In this day and age, there aren't even buttons on the phone anymore so you don't even have to hear the ever so bothersome noise of a 'click' or a 'tap'.


As well, I get email through my phone as most people do. This is the 21st century. We no longer live in an age where work and workplace conversations/matters start at 9am and end at 5pm, Monday to Friday. To remain competitive in a market, one has to adjust to the times. If that means I look at my phone (a 2.5" wide, 5" tall piece of black aluminum), then that's what I do. I'm not propping up a laptop. I'm not setting up a fax machine. And I'm not holding con calls while you're waiting for me to shoot. I'm sitting in a chair. Barely moving. Except for my thumb which may move back and forth across the 2.5" wide screen a few times. Again, if all of this is considered distracting to you, you need to stop playing pool. If its 'respectful', then you really need to stop going out in public because dude... this is the world we live in. It has NOTHING to do with respect. Looking at something of mine that is both tiny and subtle is in no way disrespectful. Now if I leaned over the table and picked up YOUR phone to call my wife, then you'd have a reasonable gripe.
 
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mia said:
I have a wife, a son, and a job that often requires some kind of attention. So is 45 mins give or take too long to ignore calls from my family? Yes. It is. If I get a text from my wife, I respond. She's more important than any pool match. And if she knows I'm playing pool but texts me anyway, its important. Period. Looking at a small, hand sized black device should have no bearing on what someone else is doing 5 feet away. Its not a sign of disrespect. Its a way of showing respect to the appropriate party. Like it or not, my wife and my family get more respect than someone I'll spend 45 mins (give or take) playing a game with and then moving on. I'm not tap dancing while you shoot. I'm not signing out loud. And I'm not even talking on the phone. Its a text message. In this day and age, there aren't even buttons on the phone anymore so you don't even have to hear the ever so bothersome noise of a 'click' or a 'tap'.


As well, I get email through my phone as most people do. This is the 21st century. We no longer live in an age where work and workplace conversations/matters start at 9am and end at 5pm, Monday to Friday. To remain competitive in a market, one has to adjust to the times. If that means I look at my phone (a 2.5" wide, 5" tall piece of black aluminum), then that's what I do. I'm not propping up a laptop. I'm not setting up a fax machine. And I'm not holding con calls while you're waiting for me to shoot. I'm sitting in a chair. Barely moving. Except for my thumb which may move back and forth across the 2.5" wide screen a few times. Again, if all of this is considered distracting to you, you need to stop playing pool. If its 'respectful', then you really need to stop going out in public because dude... this is the world we live in. It has NOTHING to do with respect. Looking at something of mine that is both tiny and subtle is in no way disrespectful. Now if I leaned over the table and picked up YOUR phone to call my wife, then you'd have a reasonable gripe.
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You did read where I said that I don't have a problem with the way you described your cell phone behavior? Your reply gives me the impression that you feel I've attacked you, I haven't.

So you'd have me believe that your wife wouldn't understand that you couldn't return a text for 45 minutes because you were in the middle of a match? You'd have me believe that you have a business that requires immediate attention at any given time and that 45 minutes would be a deal breaker?

Sure, okay. I'm sorry you have these burdens to carry. I wouldn't wish such a complicated life on anyone. Good luck to you.
 
George said:
You did read where I said that I don't have a problem with the way you described your cell phone behavior? Your reply gives me the impression that you feel I've attacked you, I haven't.

So you'd have me believe that your wife wouldn't understand that you couldn't return a text for 45 minutes because you were in the middle of a match? You'd have me believe that you have a business that requires immediate attention at any given time and that 45 minutes would be a deal breaker?

Sure, okay. I'm sorry you have these burdens to carry. I wouldn't wish such a complicated life on anyone. Good luck to you.
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I DID read that. But my point is still the same. While YOU may not find my cell phone behavior to be troublesome, other people in this thread are quick to say "Ban them!" Why? I agree there is etiquette that needs to be adhered to. So, make people adhere to them. Don't take their phones out of the equation completely.

And yes. As I said before, If my wife texts me when she knows I'm in a match, its an emergency. And I'll respond. She wouldn't text me otherwise. Its not a burden. Its a life I choose to live because I love my family. More than pool. She's not texting me to say "I'm bored" or "Sh#t! We're out of milk." If she texts me, its because something is wrong or needs immediate attention.

As for work, yeah. It may be odd, but I also consider my job to be more important than pool. And if the actions I describe for my texting also applies to email, then there shouldn't be a problem. If I get an email that's of lesser importance, I'll ignore it or get back to it later. If it requires immediate attention, I'll respond. But I won't hold up the match. If I'm responding and my turn comes up, I'll put the phone down and approach the table. I don't really think this is unreasonable. And I know you said you didn't think it was either. This is just directed towards everyone who seems to think looking at cell phones are disrespectful and they should be banned.
 
Distractions exist. Interruptions happen.

Evaluating whether they are purposeful or an unexpected disruption of the game flow is often hard to judge.

An occasional text or call taken is OK. Continual absences (mental or physical) from the game by the opponent, is not.

....like a guy walking off, taking his break, while you are shooting. Not once but several times in the match.....is that rude, disrespectful, a shark, or ????


....or just more un-needed drama in a high tech, drama filled existence of today's world...every situation is possibly different...but at minimum, please excuse yourself, that 'I have to take this call' or something similar to show that you are aware that you are taking away from the playing of the game/match.

Respect is a mutual thing. One sided doesn't get it.

just my opinion...subject to change, if I ever figure out how to use this smart phone
 
I have a question that anyone can feel free to answer.

A pool match is a competitive event, can anyone show me another competitive event where using your cell is an acceptable practice?

I'm just trying to see if there's a precedent for this or if, as pool players, we are just special :wink:
 
TheNewSharkster said:
Sorry if I am repeating what others said. I haven't read past the first page. My opinion is that any delays should be kept to a minimum. Writing a text message can wait until the match is done. If not, try and do it while your opponent is at the table. Or better yet, do it between games. It is just common curtiousy.
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This works...
 
George said:
I have a question that anyone can feel free to answer.

A pool match is a competitive event, can anyone show me another competitive event where using your cell is an acceptable practice?

I'm just trying to see if there's a precedent for this or if, as pool players, we are just special :wink:
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Challenge Accepted ;)

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Kerry Wood in the dugout talking on his cell.
 

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