Sigel V. Jones for $100,000- IPT Tour?

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8-Ball Legends To Compete in TV Challenge Showdown
New Pool Tour Launches with Biggest Prize Money Event Ever!
Las Vegas, June 30th, 2005: The International Pool Tour (IPT), a major new pool organization founded by tv personality and author Kevin Trudeau and sponsored by NaturalCures.com,, will launch with the richest, most high-profile tv event in the history of the sport-a blockbuster challenge match between 9-time World Champion Mike Sigel and 8-Time World Champion Loree Jon Jones. "Big Shots: The Battle of the 8-Ball Legends" will take place on Saturday, August 20th, 2005 at a major casino/hotel in Las Vegas and will be broadcast on national television, and throughout the world, in early September.

It is the first time in the history of pool that a man and a woman will meet head-on in a final challenge or championship match. They will play a "Race to 9" with the best 2 out of 3 sets winning the match. The ultimate winner of the "Big Shots Battle" will be awarded $100,000 cash with the runner-up receiving $50,000, the biggest pay-day ever in the game of pool.

"The IPT is bringing back real pool," said tour founder Kevin Trudeau. "This is pool like it was in its glory days-when Fats and Mosconi were playing. All IPT events will be 8-Ball not 9-Ball; 8-Ball is the game that everyone knows and plays. The IPT also has real rules, which means that the best players, not the lucky ones, will rise to the top and win!"

Both Sigel and Jones are considered true sultans of stroke and are amongst the most legendary players in the sport's long and colorful history. Sigel, at 35, became the youngest male elected to the BCA Hall of Fame and is the game's most winning player with over 100 championship titles. Named the "greatest living player in the world," Sigel was also one of the inspirations behind the hit movie "The Color of Money" and helped train Tom Cruise for the role.

At 15, Loree Jon, known as "Queen of the Hill", became the youngest player, male or female, ever to win a world title. At the time of her induction into the BCA Hall of Fame, she held over 50 titles and has been recognized five times as 'Player of the Year" by "Pool & Billiard Magazine" and "Billiards Digest."

"I will show the world in this challenge why I'm the greatest player ever, living or otherwise" said Sigel. "I'm going to put on a pool show like nothing before in history. There isn't a player in the world who can beat me. Loree Jon may be the best female player ever but no one can beat me playing pool-especially a woman."

"Women have never been allowed to play in men's events for big money," responded Jones. "So I want to show the pool world that we can be competitive. Personally, I'll be bringing some duct tape to use over Sigel's mouth. Hes's too cocky and I truly believe I will crush him. This match will not even go three sets."

The historical and dramatic 8-Ball showdown between Sigel and Jones promises to be the most televised, and watched, pool event ever. Celebrities, athletes and well-known luminaries from the world of pool will be in attendance at the "Big Shots Battle" in Las Vegas.

"Big Shots: Battle of the 8-Ball Legends" is the first of a number of high-profile IPT events which will be held throughout the year. All IPT events will abide by the following rules:

-All events will be 8-Ball
-4 1/2 inch pockets
-Slow nap cloths
-No breaking from the side rails
-Winners break
-No shot clocks
-No jump cues


The schedule of IPT competitions will culminate with the annual World 8-Ball Open Championship. This open tournament will offer an unprecedented $500,000 to the first place winner with over $3 million in guaranteed prize money.

The World 8-Ball Open Championship will be open to men and women of all ages with registration and a nominal registration fee.

"For the first time in history, pool players will be able to earn over 1 million dollars a year in prize money," said tour founder Trudeau. "We're going to see these great but anonymous pool hustlers emerge from the shadows simply because the money is so big. Thanks to the IPT, and events like the "Big Shots Battle," pool has become a real and legitimate sport."




Wow. What do you folks think of this? Kevin Trudeau (mega memory) and a friend of Mike Sigel, claiming that pool finally has arrived into the mainstream of professional sports with the announcement of the IPT.

Mike Sigel claiming he is the best there is and will prove it against LJ Jones. Man, I just cant wait to see that.

Finally, women players getting a chance to play with the men for big money, claims Loree Jon Jones- Its about time! Womens pool has been supressed enough- Set them FREE!

Kevin Trudeau, says he is bringing back real pool? I'm not quite sure what that means, yet, but I"m sure we will find out.

According to the website, no tickets will be sold at the door, you have to purchase them in advance.

Race to 9 best 2 out of 3 sets. (Pack a lunch & dinner). I sure Sigel will keep it close....
 
So much crap in that Press Release not the least of which is


"It is the first time in the history of pool that a man and a woman will meet head-on in a final challenge or championship match"

What makes this a championship match? Why is it a "final challenge"?

Didnt CJ Wiley and Vivian meet in a "Battle of the Sexes" 10 years ago or so?

Winner breaks? LJ doesnt have a chance in hell of winning this.

8 Ball at Championship level can be pretty entertaining to the average fan because of the run-outs but anything less it is such a strategic and boring game. I think the avg 8Ball bar player is going to hate 8 ball played the way it should be.

It's just sad that we have to resort to this type of circus to try to get an audience.
 
maybe...

This might be just the start pool needs... Now we need good camera angles, player bios and stats, and 26 tournaments a year with a prize total of over 100K each... We need a real "pro" circuit like that in golf, qualifier and school to become a card carring pro, and ban pros from amatuer events. Trudeau says:

"For the first time in history, pool players will be able to earn over 1 million dollars a year in prize money," said tour founder Trudeau. "We're going to see these great but anonymous pool hustlers emerge from the shadows simply because the money is so big. Thanks to the IPT, and events like the "Big Shots Battle," pool has become a real and legitimate sport."

But that would only happen if these "great but anonymous pool hustlers" could make a real living playing pool as a professional; Not just compete once for some huge prize. Trudeau now needs to get a bunch of sponsers like Coke-a-cola and Nike; and great editors to film and show pool.
 
This sounds great as I mentioned on another thread, but some things are fishy about this...1. It's being put on by a sketchy infomercial guy 2. The location is not mentioned and 3. It says it will be on TV but doesn't say with whom they will be televising it so I'm guessing no one has picked it up yet. Hope it all works out though.
 
Nostroke said:
So much crap in that Press Release not the least of which is


"It is the first time in the history of pool that a man and a woman will meet head-on in a final challenge or championship match"

What makes this a championship match? Why is it a "final challenge"?

Didnt CJ Wiley and Vivian meet in a "Battle of the Sexes" 10 years ago or so?

Yeah, and Grady played Allison and Jeanette playd Efren.

I heard about this a while back. What I heard is that this guy who is friends with Sigel has some big bucks and wants to put on a tour and get Sigel back to the table.

I hope it comes off, but who knows? Anyone remember that $1,000,000 tourny from a couple years ago?
 
Mosconi played Balukas on ABC's Wide World of Sports in the Battle of the Sexes in 1975.
 
Wasnt the biggest tourney the japanese tourney a few years back.

Personally, I think pool is moving up..we can see it..the growth of tours..the world pool championships in the last 4 years have really started shaping up and hte money is prettye decent...its a matter of time..and right now, with betting action placed on it, more pple will watch it too.

Personally, that whole deal above sounds sketch, the guys opbviously a scammer...he sold 100's of things, i doubt this is out of good will. Even the whole "press release" sounds scammy...no offense, but mike sigel and loree jones? there are a lot more players out there who pple would like to see then these two i think. It just sounds like c r a p the whole way.

why do these two get to play for 100k? If i was a sponsor, why would i want to put so much money in this? You know how they can help pool.they can put advertisements on the table itself...there are some ways to do that..either writing on it, or a projector.


i am blabbing, none of this makes sense. but the guys a scammer.
 
Just as an FYI for everyone. I spoke to the guy putting this thing on a few weeks ago.

I asked about the Sigel/Jones thing and why those two players were picked. He said that while he thought it would be a great match, he wanted to be able to build on the match for the next one. If it is close, look for a rematch. If it is not close, look for the winner to be challenged to play the same sort of match against someone else. He said he thought it would lead to a little intrigue. (Does player A want to play Player B or are they ducking from them, etc)

He also mentioned that at least two other players were offered the challenge and flatly refused. Both players that refused are multi time World Champions.

While doing some research on the guy doing this thing might uncover some questionable things. There is no question that he has made some money out there in business. He made the comment that if the whole thing crashes and burns, he doesn't really mind. It is his money and he is not worried about losing the kind of money that is going into this thing.

Mike
 
AzHousePro said:
Just as an FYI for everyone. I spoke to the guy putting this thing on a few weeks ago.

I asked about the Sigel/Jones thing and why those two players were picked. He said that while he thought it would be a great match, he wanted to be able to build on the match for the next one. If it is close, look for a rematch. If it is not close, look for the winner to be challenged to play the same sort of match against someone else. He said he thought it would lead to a little intrigue. (Does player A want to play Player B or are they ducking from them, etc)

He also mentioned that at least two other players were offered the challenge and flatly refused. Both players that refused are multi time World Champions.

While doing some research on the guy doing this thing might uncover some questionable things. There is no question that he has made some money out there in business. He made the comment that if the whole thing crashes and burns, he doesn't really mind. It is his money and he is not worried about losing the kind of money that is going into this thing.

Mike


The match will be close, because it will be set up that way, thats what I think. And it is being held in Vegas which suspect because of the odds the sports books will place on it. Last time Sigel was in Vegas, there was a big scam when Mike Lebron won the Challage of Champions and all of pool players involved chopped up a million bucks by betting on Lebron to win inwhich Lebron was a 20-1 "underdog"...

As far as those other "champions" who refused the challenge, I am sure Nick Varner was one of those champions...

I think Kevin's Trudeau's money could have been better spent on a US national tour for the professionals around the country. I think with his connection to TV and finances, he could have held live events or finals. However, being personal friends of Sigels, I am sure Sigel directing this event is going. Get your VBookie ready, because I am betting all of my points on Sigel to win 2 sets to 1.

I think the main thing that rubs me and others the wrong way is the comments made in their announcement of this event. Also, Sigel and Jones have not participated in pool for so long that alot of people will not be all to familar with either one. I think if was Sigel v. Fisher or Corr, that would be more interesting....
 
Several thoughts. I see they picked the date while the APA was holding their national tournament in Vegas. Good move. 1000's of pool players right there. I wonder if the Riviera will be involved? Also, it says an open 8-ball tournament will be held at the conclusion of IPT events. That could be 1 or more years down the road before these "challenge" matches wrap up. Can't wait to see what the entry fee is for that! With 3 million in prize money, it's going to be pretty steep. Also, to call that 8-ball tournament "the Annual 8-ball World Championship" is a little on the arrogant side all things considered. In conclusion, could it have been any easier for this guy to give Mike 100K? 50K is a nice payday for LJJ as well. But does anyone actually believe this will be on the square? It'll end up close or Mike might even lose for the sake of exposure. Then who does Mike play? Rematch? More easy $. Maybe play Jean Balukas. She might come out of retirement for some easy $. In his conversation with AZHousePro, he said several world champions turned it down flatly. This says alot. NO player is going to turn down at least 50K+ unless it smells very funny. If he is insinuating that they were afraid to play Mike, give me a break. For that kind of $ they would get up and wrestle a gorilla.
These are just my random opinions.
 
dogginda9 said:
Several thoughts... For that kind of $ they would get up and wrestle a gorilla.
These are just my random opinions.

I dunno, a gorilla? Those things can hurt you
 
The gorilla idea sounds intriguing. What I'd like to see is Sigel donning a gorilla outfit and playing a real gorilla. Sigel has to shoot right-handed, and we could make sure to get a right-handed gorilla so that figuring out who was the real Sigel and who was the real gorilla would be part of the fun. The giveaway would be that the gorilla who immediately finds a yes man in the audience is Sigel. Then we could have an official halftime extravaganza with Jennifer Chen singing with Justin Timberlake. We just need to find a gorilla who can run out.
 
whitewolf said:
And you missed the most important point entirely!!!!!!..........like whitewolf has been saying, what we need to get pool to succeed is to get some millionaire who loves pool to go for it.


Kevin Trudeau doen't neccessarily love pool, he is close friends with Mike Sigel and I think Sigel is really the main person behing this whole thing and has convinced Kevin to get involved. I think if Sigel would have gotten together with Varner, Mizerak, Rempe and used Trudeau's money and tv influence, they could have put together a nice tour. It may happen, but it just sounds like Sigels cue sales have slacked off and he needs money...
 
AzHousePro said:
He also mentioned that at least two other players were offered the challenge and flatly refused. Both players that refused are multi time World Champions.

Hrmm.... wonder who those two are.... :rolleyes: :D ES/AF?
 
1pRoscoe said:
Hrmm.... wonder who those two are.... :rolleyes: :D ES/AF?


I know one of those champions has got to be Nick Varner. Nick and Mike are good friends...I don't think ES would turn it down. AF, well she is still taking down tourny after tourny, no need to go on a losing streak, besides, I don't think AF has ever played against the men players or has any desire too.
 
JustPlay said:
I know one of those champions has got to be Nick Varner. Nick and Mike are good friends...I don't think ES would turn it down. AF, well she is still taking down tourny after tourny, no need to go on a losing streak, besides, I don't think AF has ever played against the men players or has any desire too.

You know...... when you put it into perspective like that, it really makes sense. Thanks for the post.

edit - I am curious though.... why would they offer this to the WPBA pro who is in next to last place in current standings? (61 out of 62) It seems like she is being set up for failure from the beginning....
 
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1pRoscoe said:
You know...... when you put it into perspective like that, it really makes sense. Thanks for the post.

edit - I am curious though.... why would they offer this to the WPBA pro who is in next to last place in current standings? (61 out of 62) It seems like she is being set up for failure from the beginning....


Your welcome!

Well as far as picking LJJ for the event, I would guess, Sigel has never formed some kind of relationship with anyone else. Sigel has really distanced himself from pool other than selling cues. In 2000 at the Straight pool US Open, on tape (SIGEL V. Varner match) Sigel in an interview with Bill Incardona, mentioned that he didnt even know who any of the players playing at that time. He didn't even know who George San Souci was, when Billy asked Sigel about him...Sammy Jones (LJJ husband) is also a good friend of Mike Sigel. And when you think about it, other than Jean Balukas, LJJ is one of only a hand full of well know women players that are American, Jeanette Lee being one of them as well.

All in all, I just don't get why they are doing this anyways.
 
whitewolf said:
And you missed the most important point entirely!!!!!!..........like whitewolf has been saying, what we need to get pool to succeed is to get some millionaire who loves pool to go for it.

Ok- So you know definitively what the most important point is in that Press Release and you also know that i missed it?

A word to the wise-Always beware of someone who speaks of themselves in the third person.
 
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