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Roger Illinois

Roger Illinois

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Does anyone have advice on signing a cue, without physically signing it. I know about branding irons.
I thought that there might be something better, or even less costly.

Thank you
 
Hi,

The best way is to engrave with the CNC .0156 mill, then fill with tinted epoxy material.

You can go online and by decal paper and print you brand on the paper, spray the paper with a clear lacquer rattle can. When it dries you put it in warm water and then place on your cue over the flat sanded substrate.

Before you solvent wipe and tac cloth your cue for spraying, you must hit that area with clear lacquer and let it dry. You won't see the thin film of the decal or notice the lacquer under the finish.

This works great but only on a white or light background. Because you use your printer to create it you can not use it on a black butt cap.

I tried this method for my branding but opted for the engraving method with my CNC.

Good Luck,

Rick
 
I have been thinking on having a stamp made and stamp a cue,
but that was with a small logo..
Was just an idea I had-which might be totally stupid....:frown:
Another one I had was to make a template and use a touch up gun (like the guys
painting flames,sculls and the like use) and spray it on...
Would test them out later this year..

K
 
The decals work real good and are very cheap and print out very nice on your computer printer.
 
Curious, why would you not want to sign the cue? IMO, a small signature of some type with a very fine tip pen or pencil gives a level of class that no decal or stamp could offer. Engraved logos are neat if it's merely an initial or two and small. The Schon engraving is about as extreme as i'd go. IMO, decals & stamps look cheap and production line. Signatures with large tipped pens or markers looks unprofessional. But a classy, fine, small signature looks great. It doesn't have to be your actual signature, just something that is repeatable & unique that can be immediately identified, but not large or bold enough to detract attention from the cue's design.
 
I use my CNC to engrave "Sherm" in a nice script font on the tip of my pins, but at first I quit signing my cues. One of the first customers I had after doing this complained when I did not sign his cue. I had to sign it and finish over the signature before he was happy. Then I started asking each customer if he wanted their cues signed or engraved pin. Every customer elected to have both except one who just wanted the pin engraved. Now I no longer ask, but I use pencil in an area where you really have to look to see the signature, instead of doing it in an obvious manner like I used to do. I've also offered my service to other cuemakers to engrave their pins with their name or logo and have done it for several. Not everyone has the 4th axis capability to wrap a name around the circumference of a pin.

Sherm
 
I tried this method for my branding but opted for the engraving method with my CNC.

Good Luck,

Rick[/QUOTE]

Thank you. If I had a CNC it would be the best method for sure. I feel like stickers give a cheap image. Not sure about burning a brand and at what stage.

Thank You to everyone on AZ.

Roger Illinois
 
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Newton said:
I have been thinking on having a stamp made and stamp a cue,
but that was with a small logo..
Was just an idea I had-which might be totally stupid....:frown:
Another one I had was to make a template and use a touch up gun (like the guys
painting flames,sculls and the like use) and spray it on...
Would test them out later this year..

K
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Jim Ingram stamps his cues. Small, discreet and something different. I would imagine if it were refinished someday it would still show up nicely.
 
hidden signature

i sign all my cues with a invisible ink pen that can only be seen when placed under a ultraviolet light [ old hippiess black light ]. i do this for 2 reasons, my signature looks like crap, and only the owner knows the signature is there. if it ever gets into the wrong hands and ownership is a question. the thief might not be able to tell the police where and how its signed.

chuck starkey
 
desi2960 said:
i sign all my cues with a invisible ink pen that can only be seen when placed under a ultraviolet light [ old hippiess black light ]. i do this for 2 reasons, my signature looks like crap, and only the owner knows the signature is there. if it ever gets into the wrong hands and ownership is a question. the thief might not be able to tell the police where and how its signed.

chuck starkey
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That is genius!!
 
cuesmith said:
One of the first customers I had after doing this complained when I did not sign his cue. I had to sign it and finish over the signature before he was happy.
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I would have requested the same thing. You don't just hand over $3-5K on a custom piece of art without developing a friendship with the cuemaker. I'm proud of your work and you will sign it ... damnit! ;) Actually, it's also a sign that you (the cuemaker) are proud of your work. If you didn't sign the cue it would make me wonder if you were ashamed.

desi2960 said:
i sign all my cues with a invisible ink pen that can only be seen when placed under a ultraviolet light. if it ever gets into the wrong hands and ownership is a question. the thief might not be able to tell the police its signed.
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Now that's ingenious, too bad you can't patent that idea.
 
One of my frustrations is that stamps, signatures, logos, and engraving can be duplicated. Any of them.

I like the UV ink idea. I thought of that myself.

I also have two additional ideas that might seem a bit high tech:

1) How about RFID? A valuable cue could be chipped inside somewhere making it permanently identifiable. Each chip is unique.

2) How about a foil inlay, perhaps under the wrap or butt cap? That could be detected by X-ray. I got this idea when I thought about X-raying vintage cues to determine their construction without removing the wrap. It could show a symbol, logo, or even an ID number.

I actually thought about patenting these two ideas or trademarking, whichever would apply, but it will be a long time before I start building, if ever, so guys if you can use the ideas please go ahead.


I have also thought of offering the service of chipping cues or adding a foil ID inside somewhere, so it perhaps could be added after a cue is made.

This can help protect against theft or assist in recovery. Also it can help in the ever daunting task of identifying difficult to identify work many years down the road.

What do you think?


BTW....I recently got taken by a fake logo.
 
lots of good advice here....i for one think decals cleared over look cheap...i dont understand why someone would do it that way....also i am not sure why someone wouldnt atleast mark the cue in a way....i have had several cues and they werent signed or marked and had wondered why? i guess it is up to the cuemaker to do what he wants in the way of signing or not signing......just doesnt make sense to me why they wouldnt...but one of the two that wasnt signed was a MONSTER PLAYER....other was easy to forget......gl in your search mickey
 
tattoo said:
i have had several cues and they werent signed or marked and had wondered why? i guess it is up to the cuemaker to do what he wants in the way of signing or not signing.
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Like the late great GB once said...."my name never helped a cue make a ball.";)
 
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