I was wondering, how you could tell, i always thought that if the shaft has less growth rings then it was good shaft wood... can someone please clarify this for me
simple question: what is good shaft wood?
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filluptieu said:
I'll try to simplify it. The more grain lines, the better. The straighter the grain lines, the better. A shaft that weighs between 3oz-4oz is good. For playabillity, that's about it. Some people like lighter colored wood, but actually the darker maple seems to be heavier & stiffer, which is good. Hope this is of some help...JER
That depends who is selling .filluptieu said:
i see lots of talk about high ring count being better,but i don't belive it.i do search for high ring counts when i buy, but only b/c i know the demand is much greater.if i had 100 shafts with 30 rpi,i could resell for much more than 100 shafts with 10 rpi,maybe double or triple,but to me the hit and playability may be the same.
i feel like there are other more important factors to look for when trying to determine playability from looks.Martin is right though do a search and you will find most everything to look for.i can only think of one aspect of determining a shafts playabiltiy that hasn't been discussed here.
i feel like there are other more important factors to look for when trying to determine playability from looks.Martin is right though do a search and you will find most everything to look for.i can only think of one aspect of determining a shafts playabiltiy that hasn't been discussed here.
masonh said:
what would that one aspect be?
I think we (qmakers) get involved with our own criteria, for what WE need to make the best shafts or Qs. This ORIGINAL poster seems to be a Q buyer, NOT a Qmaker. I gave advise to a consumer, did we all????...JER
Don't stress it. Get cues from builders who are reputed to build great players & trust their judgement. They didn't earn the reputation by being idiots or using less than quality materials.
Grain count can be a visual indicator of tree growth rate, which can be related to stiffness & stability. This isn't always the case, just a basic guidline. Truth is, you can not tell a great shaft from a bad shaft by visually inspecting. You gotta hit balls to know. I have superb playing shafts that have few grain lines, bad grain runoff and/or wavy grain. I have crap shafts with 35 dead straight gpi. More important than anything upon visual inspection is consistency of grain. Of all the best shafts I have cut, the only visual factor present every time is the grain lines being consistently spaced, meaning the tree was healthy & was growing steadily without variance. Otherwise, you'll only know by hitting balls.
Grain count can be a visual indicator of tree growth rate, which can be related to stiffness & stability. This isn't always the case, just a basic guidline. Truth is, you can not tell a great shaft from a bad shaft by visually inspecting. You gotta hit balls to know. I have superb playing shafts that have few grain lines, bad grain runoff and/or wavy grain. I have crap shafts with 35 dead straight gpi. More important than anything upon visual inspection is consistency of grain. Of all the best shafts I have cut, the only visual factor present every time is the grain lines being consistently spaced, meaning the tree was healthy & was growing steadily without variance. Otherwise, you'll only know by hitting balls.
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i understand what mason is saying. why search for 30 when 10 is equal.
i think the difference between makers and players is looks. the poster stated less is better. i think players feel the whiter or cleaner the shaft looks the better. i dont feel this way. i like to see some grain and dont mind a mark here and there.
i think the difference between makers and players is looks. the poster stated less is better. i think players feel the whiter or cleaner the shaft looks the better. i dont feel this way. i like to see some grain and dont mind a mark here and there.
Bouncing them and flexing them.fullsplicefiend said:Playing with it???
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JoeyInCali said:
were talking about shaftwood... what are u talking about???
This question may be simple but the answer is not a simple on jsut as you ahve seen. When you say "less growth rings" do you mean smaller growth rings or "less" in number of growth rings per inch? Some say that having more grain lines per inch makes a better playing shaft. In general this is true if you are wanting a heavier and stiffer shaft. But more grain lines per inch does not always mean it will be heavier or stiffer than a shaft with just a few wide grain lines. Some prefer the look of a shaft with more grain lines per inch. But as far as looks go, more grain lines per inch means you will see more feathers where the taper of the shaft cuts through the ends of the grain. But take a wide 4 grain line per inch shaft with perfectly straight grain and you might not have even one feather show up. I usually pick the tight grain shafts for myself, and as a whole I like them better. But wider grain line shafts can play just as well and look even better to some people. So when all is considered I will still be trying to find heavier tighter grain shafts to go on my cues, even though there is nothing wrong with most of the other shafts. It is just my preferrence.filluptieu said: