Simplified CTE

I'll bite. Can you explain how I get aligned to the ball? How do I know I'm seeing it right?
It's just fractional aiming with a sighting of the center-to-edge line for starting orientation.

If you want a description of how a final aiming resolution should look to you, you're asking for the impossible. No method/system can do that - all it can do is give you tools to make it easier/quicker to learn it through practice, as usual.

pj
chgo
 
No it is very likely much much more accurate. The difference between a teacher who is invested deeply in the subject and one who is skimming the surface is depth of knowledge.

90/90 is much simpler than CTE and covers a broad range of shots. But it is not as accurate imo. Still I use both and sometimes the 90/90 aim is clear as day and I use that.

Maybe "simplified cte" will become the gateway aiming system for students to get a taste before they graduate to "super accurate cte". That would be great to see Pat contribute something that boosts the CTE profile in general. And I know you would be really happy to see that as well.
I use 90/90 for jump shots, bridge shots and combos
 
John, I’m curious. What creates more movement when down on the shot, the half tip pivot used in CTE or adjustments that have to be made from the fractional alignment

That depends on how accurately the player uses fractional references. In other words, a beginner using fractional aiming could be off with their aim line estimation by 1/8 of a ball or even 1/4 of a ball while standing. If they recognize how far off they are once they're down on the shot, then there's going to be some movement/adjustment needed.

Using a little math it's easy to determine how much adjustment (in tip offset measurement) will be needed. Let's say the player is off by 1/4 of a ball, which is quite a bit! Lol. Anyway, the ob is 6ft away from the cb and the player incorrectly lines up for a 3/4 ball hit. When he bends into the shot he sees it looks closer to a 1/2 ball it.

The alignment difference for this shot (difference between a 3/4 aim and a 1/2 ball aim with the ob 6ft away) is only 0.45°. In other words, his aim line through ccb is 0.45° too thick. This equates to a 2mm offset on his alignment. That 2mm would be a 1/6 tip pivot if he wanted to adjust by using a pivot type method. That's not much movement or adjustment when compared to using a 1/2 tip pivot.

If the ob were only 2ft away, then the required adjustment from a 3/4 ball aim line and a 1/2 ball line would be about 1.3°, which equates to about a 1/2 tip pivot if that's how the player makes his adjustment.

Math.... 🤓

Angle difference in 3/4 ball aim and 1/2 ball aim for ob 6ft away: 2× atan(0.28125" ÷ 72") = 0.45°

Required pivot for a 0.45° adjustment in shot angle using a 10" (254mm) bridge: tan(0.45°) x 254mm = 2mm

A 2mm offset pivot using a 12.5mm shaft is about a 1/6 tip pivot. (2÷12.5 ~ 1/6)

Angle difference in 3/4 ball aim and 1/2 ball aim for ob 2ft away: 2× atan(0.28125" ÷ 24") = 1.34°

Required pivot for a 1.34° adjustment in shot angle using a 10" (254mm) bridge: tan(1.34°) x 254mm = 5.9mm

A 5.9mm offset pivot using a 12.5mm shaft is about a 1/2 tip pivot. (5.9÷12.5 ~ 1/2)
 
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That depends on how accurately the player uses fractional references. In other words, a beginner using fractional aiming could be off with their aim line estimation by 1/8 of a ball or even 1/4 of a ball while standing. If they recognize how far off they are once they're down on the shot, then there's going to be some movement/adjustment needed.

Using a little math it's easy to determine how much adjustment (in tip offset measurement) will be needed. Let's say the player is off by 1/4 of a ball, which is quite a bit! Lol. Anyway, the ob is 6ft away from the cb and the player incorrectly lines up for a 3/4 ball hit. When he bends into the shot he sees it looks closer to a 1/2 ball it.

The alignment difference for this shot (difference between a 3/4 aim and a 1/2 ball aim with the ob 6ft away) is only 0.45°. In other words, his aim line through ccb is 0.45° too thick. This equates to a 2mm offset on his alignment. That 2mm would be a 1/6 tip pivot if he wanted to adjust by using a pivot type method. That's not much movement or adjustment when compared to using a 1/2 tip pivot.

If the ob were only 2ft away, then the required adjustment from a 3/4 ball aim line and a 1/2 ball line would be about 1.3°, which equates to about a 1/2 tip pivot if that's how the player makes his adjustment.

Math.... 🤓

Angle difference in 3/4 ball aim and 1/2 ball aim for ob 6ft away: 2× atan(0.28125" ÷ 72") = 0.45°

Required pivot for a 0.45° adjustment in shot angle using a 10" (254mm) bridge: tan(0.45°) x 254mm = 2mm

A 2mm offset pivot using a 12.5mm shaft is about a 1/6 tip pivot. (2÷12.5 ~ 1/6)

Angle difference in 3/4 ball aim and 1/2 ball aim for ob 2ft away: 2× atan(0.28125" ÷ 24") = 1.34°

Required pivot for a 1.34° adjustment in shot angle using a 10" (254mm) bridge: tan(1.34°) x 254mm = 5.9mm

A 5.9mm offset pivot using a 12.5mm shaft is about a 1/2 tip pivot. (5.9÷12.5 ~ 1/2)
i have a headache......:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
That depends on how accurately the player uses fractional references. In other words, a beginner using fractional aiming could be off with their aim line estimation by 1/8 of a ball or even 1/4 of a ball while standing. If they recognize how far off they are once they're down on the shot, then there's going to be some movement/adjustment needed.

Using a little math it's easy to determine how much adjustment (in tip offset measurement) will be needed. Let's say the player is off by 1/4 of a ball, which is quite a bit! Lol. Anyway, the ob is 6ft away from the cb and the player incorrectly lines up for a 3/4 ball hit. When he bends into the shot he sees it looks closer to a 1/2 ball it.

The alignment difference for this shot (difference between a 3/4 aim and a 1/2 ball aim with the ob 6ft away) is only 0.45°. In other words, his aim line through ccb is 0.45° too thick. This equates to a 2mm offset on his alignment. That 2mm would be a 1/6 tip pivot if he wanted to adjust by using a pivot type method. That's not much movement or adjustment when compared to using a 1/2 tip pivot.

If the ob were only 2ft away, then the required adjustment from a 3/4 ball aim line and a 1/2 ball line would be about 1.3°, which equates to about a 1/2 tip pivot if that's how the player makes his adjustment.

Math.... 🤓

Angle difference in 3/4 ball aim and 1/2 ball aim for ob 6ft away: 2× atan(0.28125" ÷ 72") = 0.45°

Required pivot for a 0.45° adjustment in shot angle using a 10" (254mm) bridge: tan(0.45°) x 254mm = 2mm

A 2mm offset pivot using a 12.5mm shaft is about a 1/6 tip pivot. (2÷12.5 ~ 1/6)

Angle difference in 3/4 ball aim and 1/2 ball aim for ob 2ft away: 2× atan(0.28125" ÷ 24") = 1.34°

Required pivot for a 1.34° adjustment in shot angle using a 10" (254mm) bridge: tan(1.34°) x 254mm = 5.9mm

A 5.9mm offset pivot using a 12.5mm shaft is about a 1/2 tip pivot. (5.9÷12.5 ~ 1/2)
So do you think it’s smoother to perform a defined half tip pivot or to perform a searching for the right look adjustment
 
So do you think it’s smoother to perform a defined half tip pivot or to perform a searching for the right look adjustment

Depends on the player and how much time they invest in each method.

For me, being relatively new and intermittent with using fractional aiming, I determine the aim line from a standing position and do not fidget around or make adjustments to that aim line after addressing the cb. I align to the shot and go down into that line. Any adjustments made while down on the cb are miniscule adjustments made to compensate for speed or spin. For extreme spin I typically set up/align for that adjustment before getting down on the ball.
 
I wonder how many of the people who know CTE is snake oil in their minds🥲.

Have ever invested four or five hours into using, learning, or trying to use the system.

It like those who know they hate Kiwi Flavored Vodka, but never tried yeh flavor.🤬
They only have a vendetta against Houle and Shuffett. They care not that the system works.
 
Are you ever going to post more than that about it?

pj
chgo
How many times does information need to be posted? You're just baiting people into spending their time and effort for no good reason. My opinion...you're not a nice person, you're doing this for a perverse form of entertainment. You're not the only one that this applies too.
 
So do you think it’s smoother to perform a defined half tip pivot or to perform a searching for the right look adjustment

If a player is going to use a pivot method, I guess a consistent one is better than guessing. But I'd rather reference a direct aim line, a straightforward ccb "noser" approach, than use an offset reference line (CTE "perception") followed by a pivot or visual sweep to find the aim line.

Like I said before, it all depends on how much time someone invests in the their preferred method. With enough time and practice, the mind figures out how to make the body work in conjunction with what we're seeing.
 
Depends on the player and how much time they invest in each method.

For me, being relatively new and intermittent with using fractional aiming, I determine the aim line from a standing position and do not fidget around or make adjustments to that aim line after addressing the cb. I align to the shot and go down into that line. Any adjustments made while down on the cb are miniscule adjustments made to compensate for speed or spin. For extreme spin I typically set up/align for that adjustment before getting down on the ball.
But for some on here the adjustments when down on a shot using fractional aiming are described as a "lizard head like movement" in search of the final aim line. Certainly that has to be more movement then a simple half tip pivot that is done on every shot.
 
I must've missed where cookieman posted some. Please show me.

pj <- maybe we have different definitions of "information"...
chgo
The Truth Series PJ, watch and learn. Everyone knows you won't do that though. It's always been much easier for you to post wrong keyboard opinions.
 
This subject has been beat to death, those who love CTE will not become haters. Those who hate CTE will never become lovers.

Might as well ask with Color Matet Chalk is best, I think Green, but your free to your opinion.

Forum continues to flounder like Trout on bank, trying to return to water.

🥵
 
If a player is going to use a pivot method, I guess a consistent one is better than guessing. But I'd rather reference a direct aim line, a straightforward ccb "noser" approach, than use an offset reference line (CTE "perception") followed by a pivot or visual sweep to find the aim line.

Like I said before, it all depends on how much time someone invests in the their preferred method. With enough time and practice, the mind figures out how to make the body work in conjunction with what we're seeing.
Have you ever spent much time aiming from an offset? Watch SVB, he does it.
 
Have you ever spent much time aiming from an offset? Watch SVB, he does it.

I've watched him quite a bit, and many times from only 15 to 20 away. He looks straight through the cb, visualizing the aim line, then steps into that line and shoots. Just watched him last week in Vegas.

Shane gets his aim line, aligns his body and stance to that line, then shoots. He doesn't align his body and stance to a slightly off line and then sweep or pivot to the aim line. His method seems to involve knowing the aim line from the beginning, not discovering it while sweeping or pivoting to it from an offset alignment.
 
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Watched SVB lose to Omar in the sudden death spot shot contest .
Omar walked to the 10-ball and looked at the contact point before shooting .
They both made all shots from the second diamond in the kitchen. Shane never approached the 10 to check the contact point or angle.
He missed his first try from the first diamond in the kitchen when they went to more distance after making the first 4.
Omar didn't.
 
I've watched him quite a bit, and many times from only 15 to 20 away. He looks straight through the cb, visualizing the aim line, then steps into that line and shoots. Just watched him last week in Vegas.

Shane gets his aim line, aligns his body and stance to that line, then shoots. He doesn't align his body and stance to a slightly off line and then sweep or pivot to the aim line. His method seems to involve knowing the aim line from the beginning, not discovering it while sweeping or pivoting to it from an offset alignment.
And he said he cues always low because he sees the relationship from cue ball to object ball better that way.
One Houligan claimed on chat he does that to hide his use of CTE . lol
Shane is like just almost all pros .
He trolled the world when he said he aims with the side of the shaft .
He's laughing at the gullible people who believed that BS.
 
And he said he cues always low because he sees the relationship from cue ball to object ball better that way.
One Houligan claimed on chat he does that to hide his use of CTE . lol
Shane is like just almost all pros .
He trolled the world when he said he aims with the side of the shaft .
He's laughing at the gullible people who believed that BS.
Anyone who understands ball & tip fractions at high level may likely use edge of ferrule/shaft. These different ways of aligning, visualizing, dropping into and fine tuning to shot lines, are not incompatible with each other. I think Brian gets all this stuff very well, but you just seem angry and out to disparage anything but your own internalized perception of what others are doing.

Do you actually play competitive pool, or are you just a professional virtual railbird? What part of CA are you in?
 
Anyone who understands ball & tip fractions at high level may likely use edge of ferrule/shaft. These different ways of aligning, visualizing, dropping into and fine tuning to shot lines, are not incompatible with each other. I think Brian gets all this stuff very well, but you just seem angry and out to disparage anything but your own internalized perception of what others are doing.

Do you actually play competitive pool, or are you just a professional virtual railbird? What part of CA are you in?
Have you seen the video of Shane explaining his aiming system ? HAVE YOU ?

I'm in OC and quit playing competitively more than a decade ago after starting making cues .

Are you in the pro tour ? Pulling some rank because you're a pro ?
 
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