Which prompts the question, Who the hell is Dave714?
SJM at the 2023 Derby City Catastrophe
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Have you tried my wife’s jerky?
L.S. Dennis
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Yeah, Reno was a a great place for hotel accommodations, great buffet restaurants, (Silver Legacy) and a great place go watch pool without breaking the bank. Hopefully they'll get some pool back into that city!
You could get ribs or fried chicken at the homestyle place....
Well obviously not.
But I will tell you that IMO one of the great taste treat combos in life is: beef jerky, corn nuts, and beer.
Lou Figueroa
Hell yeah. When that ice cold beer hits that jerky, salty corn-nuts is a taste that's hard to beat.
Lots of good replies in this thread. Dishing out the blame for a poorly managed event is not and never will be my aim here. The intent is to identify the problems and let the producers know that the interests of fans in attendance, fans watching on stream, and those who competed were compromised by these problems, in the hope that these problems are addressed.
Here's a thought. Many who've gone to the Derby for many years know that the nine ball was race to seven for many years. The dead money was just as dead back then and the same guys won when they switched to race to nine. In fact, SVB has won four DCC 9ball titles, two in the race-to-seven era and two in the race-to-nine era.
It's a safe bet that the switch to nine was to accommodate the pros, but we are still paying the price. If going back to race to seven is overdoing it, why not just go back to race to seven until Round 10, and then race to nine. I think that such a format would make a 500+ player field practical and would still allow the elite to battle it out for the title with the longer race.
Though it was an awful mess this year, the Derby City Classic remains a winning idea.
Here's a thought. Many who've gone to the Derby for many years know that the nine ball was race to seven for many years. The dead money was just as dead back then and the same guys won when they switched to race to nine. In fact, SVB has won four DCC 9ball titles, two in the race-to-seven era and two in the race-to-nine era.
It's a safe bet that the switch to nine was to accommodate the pros, but we are still paying the price. If going back to race to seven is overdoing it, why not just go back to race to seven until Round 10, and then race to nine. I think that such a format would make a 500+ player field practical and would still allow the elite to battle it out for the title with the longer race.
Though it was an awful mess this year, the Derby City Classic remains a winning idea.
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One thing I should have shared was the audacity of the tournament directors in the Billy Thorpe vs Anthony Meglino match in One Pocket Round 8. It was the last match of the round and it was backing up the entire tournament.
Here's what happened. Meglino's play was outstanding as he jumped out to a well-deserved 2-0 lead. Thorpe had to grind out two very lengthy racks to reach double hill and the marathon match would have to continue.
It was at this point that the inconceivable happened. The tournament directors came to their table and requested that they play one-ball one pocket, meaning a rack with just one ball on the table to decide the match. Former one pocket champion Thorpe, quite reasonably, absolutely refused and was quite vocal in taking exception. In the end, the request was withdrawn and Thorpe and Meglino played out the match as intended, with Thorpe prevailing in the very well-played but interminable match.
I simply couldn't believe that the tournament directors had the audacity to make this request. Why should the players pay this price for the ineptitude of those managing the schedule. Even I was mad!
Here's what happened. Meglino's play was outstanding as he jumped out to a well-deserved 2-0 lead. Thorpe had to grind out two very lengthy racks to reach double hill and the marathon match would have to continue.
It was at this point that the inconceivable happened. The tournament directors came to their table and requested that they play one-ball one pocket, meaning a rack with just one ball on the table to decide the match. Former one pocket champion Thorpe, quite reasonably, absolutely refused and was quite vocal in taking exception. In the end, the request was withdrawn and Thorpe and Meglino played out the match as intended, with Thorpe prevailing in the very well-played but interminable match.
I simply couldn't believe that the tournament directors had the audacity to make this request. Why should the players pay this price for the ineptitude of those managing the schedule. Even I was mad!
Let's share a positive about this Derby. The tactical play was often breathtaking. Several top pros with whom I spoke agreed that the disallowance of jump cues makes the game more beautiful tactically. Anyone who thinks they're needed should take note that (with apologies to Ko Pin Yi, Albin Ouschan and Jayson Shaw) the best user of the jump stick in the world, Fedor Gorst, won the nine-ball without it.
You completely change the dynamic and the type of player who would show up by moving it that far away.
He's the Dave after # 713, jeez!
I think my favorite memory was right before closing time of the ice cream shop (I think 2am?), I was in the action room, and everyone was betting high. Then all of a sudden, final ice cream runs were made, and half the room had huge shit eating grins on their faces, eating ice cream, and looked like 6 year old boys. It was such a great moment.Ice cream shop gone too
This never happened at the International.
The race to 9 was to get WPA sanctioning as a Tier 3? event. That was the WPA requirement at the time. Funny, I think some WPA events after that might have been races to 7, but I'm not certain of this point. That is when some of the European pros started coming (that didn't already live in the USA). I'm with you, race to 7 is perfect, and has ZERO affect on who will win.
Wouldn't have to be on the property. If properly licensed, they can pull up on the road off of Caesars and they would have more business than they could handle.
This is the gist of pool. The better players always win. It could be any rule set under the sun. Efren, Busty, Alex, Shane, Earl, Varner, etc, would have all won the same events. We see this decade after decade. I actually think the mid-tier pros complain too much to make the rules "harder" as they think it will favor them better. But they still get beat by the top tier pros. I think the rules should be tweaked where necessary to make it better for the fan experience, and the tournament venue/time/space. Not to make it where pro xyz thinks he/she has the best change to win.
This would be amazing. I bet though there are strict rules in place to limit it. Or, the truck vendors have no idea. All we would have to do is find a Greek with a food truck, and he would be there and make a killing.
Won’t work, the land around the casino is all their property. Nothing within walking distance. It’s a stone trap there.
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