Slick cloth

hdgis1

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I recently had my first table covered with simonis tournament blue cloth and its slippery as hell! How long before this wears off? Is there anything I can do to speed up the process? It's driving me nuts!!!

Chris
 
I feel your pain. The only way to "break in" the cloth is continue to play on it. Sorry I don't have an estimate on how long it will take, but in the room I frequent it usually takes a couple of months after they recover the table (of course they get a lot of play being in a public hall).
I wish I had you problem, but alas, I have no table at home.:frown:
 
One week ago i had my Gold Crown IV recovered with new Simonis 860 Powder Blue. after playing 2-3 hours a day each day for the last week the slickness is starting to wear off - slightly. it sure makes a table play differently. and i know until the slickness wears off that there are shots i cant play that i normally would due to the CB dying coming off the rails, or sliding instead of rolling.

Mike
 
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Why would you want it to slow down?

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I just love fast cloth. It makes me work on the delicasy end of my shot making techniques, instead of the power end of my shot making techniques.

Also when someone comes over and is used to slower cloth, I have a BIG advantage.

(And a note: I am using Simonis 760 on an 8-foot table)

As the cloth gets faster and faster, it become easier to see the physics of the pool ball on the pool table (especially easy with a measles ball).

Consider a ball rolling towards the rail with both top/bottom spin and side spin. On a slow cloth the side spin, top spin and the swerve all take place in the first blink of your eye as the ball bounces off the rail. With fast cloth you see the side spin alter the angle of departure, then the top spin arc the ball forwad and then the swerve move it just a hair more.

If you can see what the ball is doing, your mind will develop a mental model that is more atuned to the physics taking place. This model still works on slow cloth after a few minutes of play to get used to all the physics happening at once. but if yo only play on slow cloth you may never develope a really accurate model and end up wondering why you an't quite "get it" figured out.
 
This is a chance to learn more about pool. A big part of pool is adjusting to different equipment, if you are used to playing on the same table all the time, when you do play on unfamiliar equipment it is more difficult to adjust. Take advantage of this opportunuty to see how new cloth plays, it is not too uncommom in high level pool to have to play on a newly recovered table. When the balls have just been polished a similar slide effect is created. It doesn't last too long, take advantage of this opportunty to experiment, there are shots that can only be made with new cloth. It opens up a whole different aspect to the game! :)
 
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Why would you want it to slow down?

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I just love fast cloth. It makes me work on the delicasy end of my shot making techniques, instead of the power end of my shot making techniques.

Also when someone comes over and is used to slower cloth, I have a BIG advantage.

(And a note: I am using Simonis 760 on an 8-foot table)

As the cloth gets faster and faster, it become easier to see the physics of the pool ball on the pool table (especially easy with a measles ball).

Consider a ball rolling towards the rail with both top/bottom spin and side spin. On a slow cloth the side spin, top spin and the swerve all take place in the first blink of your eye as the ball bounces off the rail. With fast cloth you see the side spin alter the angle of departure, then the top spin arc the ball forwad and then the swerve move it just a hair more.

If you can see what the ball is doing, your mind will develop a mental model that is more atuned to the physics taking place. This model still works on slow cloth after a few minutes of play to get used to all the physics happening at once. but if yo only play on slow cloth you may never develope a really accurate model and end up wondering why you an't quite "get it" figured out.

Wow, 760 on an 8' table. Must play like a old pinball machine in low humidity. What kind of rails do you have on it? Johnnyt
 
I recently had my first table covered with simonis tournament blue cloth and its slippery as hell! How long before this wears off? Is there anything I can do to speed up the process? It's driving me nuts!!!

Chris

Give it a brushing head to foot. Then a few wipe downs with a damp (not wet) microfiber towel.
 
I guess maybe I am under the false impression that speed and slickness are not related? I have the quick-clean and have used that a few times. Table gets about 8-10 hours a week.

Chris
 
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...Consider a ball rolling towards the rail with both top/bottom spin and side spin. ....

That's impossible!
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On the opposed side of this question how do you keep that slick or slippery condition? Personally I like the play of new cloth and the faster speed.
 
On the opposed side of this question how do you keep that slick or slippery condition? Personally I like the play of new cloth and the faster speed.
For the slipperiness, get ArmorAll silicone spray and grease up the balls. For more speed, vacuum and heat the table. You could also iron it. This applies to your own table. Some room owners would rather not have customers doing table maintenance or ball greasing.
 
You could always try Milliken Super Pro. One reason some folks love it at tournaments is that its NOT slippery and doesn't require any real "break in" period where the cloth's playing characteristics change.
 
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