Sneaky Pete

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Lizardking

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Unknown Sneaky Pete

I recieved this unknown Sneaky Pete on 7/30. I was told that it was purchased in 1968-1969, at a Pool Hall in West Palm Beach Florida (Purdy Lane Pub?). The Pool Cue appears to be well made. It is straight together and apart. Just looking for some information on it. Enjoy

Cheers,
Tony


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Looks like a Kirsenbrock

I bought 10 of them in Las angeles from a fella named Lee

I sold them for $500 each way backwhen,today they
would be worth twice that


Then again,all sneaky petes look alike
and I could be wrong

Best wishes
Dean
 
Rocky Tillis maybe? Of course I honestly don’t know, just threw that out because he was a Florida cuemaker close to the pool hall it was purchased at.
 
deanoc said:
Looks like a Kirsenbrock

I bought 10 of them in Las angeles from a fella named Lee

I sold them for $500 each way backwhen,today they
would be worth twice that


Then again,all sneaky petes look alike
and I could be wrong

Best wishes
Dean
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Do DPK's have center holes in their joint screws?
Threaded rubber bumper ?
 
HQueen said:
Rocky Tillis maybe? Of course I honestly don’t know, just threw that out because he was a Florida cuemaker close to the pool hall it was purchased at.
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I believe Rocky only used a 5/16X18 joint pin.
 
deanoc said:
Looks like a Kirsenbrock

I bought 10 of them in Las angeles from a fella named Lee

I sold them for $500 each way backwhen,today they
would be worth twice that


Then again,all sneaky petes look alike
and I could be wrong

Best wishes
Dean
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If it’s a Kersenbrock it’s a one of a kind, and if the OP’s dates are correct it all but cancels it out. The 3/8x10 pin and brown phenolic joint is like the small block Chevy of cues...they’re everywhere.

It’s hard to say for sure and could be a big name cuemaker or a home built hobby cue from a good repairman or the likes. I had a Fry cue that looked identical from the points up and also had a Scruggs with the longer black buttcap. An early Fry / Scruggs collaboration is possible, or something along those lines. What ever it is, it’s probably a solid player.
 
A sneaky can be very difficult to ID.

I have no idea on this one but it looks like a cool cue.

I posted one a few years ago and was lucky that a maker here said it was one of his.
 
I was just joking around
i did have a bucket load of Kirsenbrock sneaky pete but i can't tell 1 sneaky from another and doubt if anyone else could either

That was my point in a supposed to be funny way
 
deanoc said:
I was just joking around
i did have a bucket load of Kirsenbrock sneaky pete but i can't tell 1 sneaky from another and doubt if anyone else could either

That was my point in a supposed to be funny way
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You’re like super funny and you can quit your day job at anytime
 
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Just spitballing at this one, but I don't THINK 3/8-10" go back quite that far do they? I had thought that they came along in the mid 1970's for some reason. Bill Stroud could probably narrow that time frame down significantly.
 
Bumlak said:
Just spitballing at this one, but I don't THINK 3/8-10" go back quite that far do they? I had thought that they came along in the mid 1970's for some reason. Bill Stroud could probably narrow that time frame down significantly.
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I had a 1968 cue with a 3/8-10, but it looked very different from this one.
 
ideologist said:
I had a 1968 cue with a 3/8-10, but it looked very different from this one.
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I've heard Bill Stroud say that he invented the 3/8-10 pin, however, I never heard a timeline or the story surrounding it. I've never heard of any uses other than pool cues for that thread pitch and size.
 
Chopdoc said:
I don't believe he was doing that. You gotta understand Dean. :smile:
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I think making a statement like he did on 7/30/2018, then waiting fours days (08/03/2018) before he admits that he was merely joking has a degree of mis-information. My initial post asks for info, not jokes. I will admit, I’m a novice at this and I have a lot of respect for the knowledge base here. To throw out incorrect information purposefully is irresponsible.
 
I've never known Dean to be anything but 101% upfront and honest with a wicked sense of humor. But that wasn't the point of your thread.

It's hard to really get a true gauge on a sneaky. The hole (pilot) at the top of the 3/8-10 is really interesting. If I were going to do it, I would start with 3/8-10 rod, drill it and then grind the nose round. The time it takes to do something like that certainly would seem to put the cue in the realm of a pretty competent and confident maker. Oddly enough, the cue looks familiar for some reason. The joint and shaft collars are certainly the older color of natural phenolic.
 
But it ain't a sneaky
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Help me out here since i make (hobby basis) very basic full splice cues - what is the maximum embellishment i can add and still sling around the term "Sneaky" or "Sneaky Pete"?

Does a white butt collar rule it out?
Butt side ferule at the joint so long as none on the shaft?

Apparently if it includes ferules on both sides of joint and a Butt collar, it would be incorrect? Or did i miss something else?

Can you call the above cue a "Sneakly Pete style" cue?

This is not intended to be snarky, i just make cues, don't want to use wrong terminology.

smt
 
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