Well, in golf its pretty clear. I guess i like 'ancient' then. Amateur means its not your way of making a living. Pretty simple in my book.
Snooker player Shaun Murphy says Amateurs shouldnt be allowed to play with pros....
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DeeDeeCues
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Nobody does, because we don't have any ancient Greeks here.
Judd Trump was asked about it and said something that translates to, "you gotta be f****** joking, what's the problem, I don't complain about the opponent in front of me - he can be on the tour or he can be a local hero added to make it up to 128 players - just beat him (or her) and if you don't then go home". Trump has never been my favourite personality but all credit to him.
Very disappointing to see Mark Selby agreeing with Murphy - he happily took up an invitation to play in a top tier Chinese Pool tournament yet thinks that professional snooker players should get a bye in the first round if the tournament is short of players. When my son was 5 he had more maturity and more respect for "the other person" than these guys. Murphy comes across as spoiled, immature, resentful (about nothing) - and that's just the start of it. Snooker has a pro tour, like many other sports and that's a strength of the game, but when tour pros moan about places being made up they should be fined and warned.
Very disappointing to see Mark Selby agreeing with Murphy - he happily took up an invitation to play in a top tier Chinese Pool tournament yet thinks that professional snooker players should get a bye in the first round if the tournament is short of players. When my son was 5 he had more maturity and more respect for "the other person" than these guys. Murphy comes across as spoiled, immature, resentful (about nothing) - and that's just the start of it. Snooker has a pro tour, like many other sports and that's a strength of the game, but when tour pros moan about places being made up they should be fined and warned.
There's only 122 pros on the tour this season, and most tournaments start at 128. There's no alternative, unless the were to repeatedly give 6 players a bye to round 2, which Murphy would probably also moan about (unless he was one of the 6 of course, then it would be fine). They've always topped up with the top rated amateurs.
Apparently, Americans dont hold the patent on bitching and whining like I thought w did! Lol
Hahahaha! Ronnie O'Sullivan thinks Shaun Murphy should go get a job:
While the likes of Neil Robertson and Mark Williams have backed Murphy over his complaints, O’Sullivan is less sympathetic. “I hope it gets worse, honestly. I hope it gets worse for them,” said O’Sullivan. "They better start looking for a job if they don’t like it. I drew a line under it a long time ago. I can change what I do, that’s what I’m saying to Murphy, go and get a job, do something else, play snooker for fun because you’re going to have loads more of that. Get your head around it, you’ve got choices to make. Five or six years ago I made a real conscious effort to play for fun and just enjoy it. I went and got a job and played this for a hobby."
Read more here: RONNIE O'SULLIVAN TELLS BEATEN SHAUN MURPHY TO GET ANOTHER JOB AFTER UK CHAMPIONSHIP RANT
While the likes of Neil Robertson and Mark Williams have backed Murphy over his complaints, O’Sullivan is less sympathetic. “I hope it gets worse, honestly. I hope it gets worse for them,” said O’Sullivan. "They better start looking for a job if they don’t like it. I drew a line under it a long time ago. I can change what I do, that’s what I’m saying to Murphy, go and get a job, do something else, play snooker for fun because you’re going to have loads more of that. Get your head around it, you’ve got choices to make. Five or six years ago I made a real conscious effort to play for fun and just enjoy it. I went and got a job and played this for a hobby."
Read more here: RONNIE O'SULLIVAN TELLS BEATEN SHAUN MURPHY TO GET ANOTHER JOB AFTER UK CHAMPIONSHIP RANT
By the way, in case anyone is wondering why there's no UK Championship snooker matches today, I found out that BBC is coming to film the tournament from here on in, and they needed a day to make the transition from the other broadcaster (I think Eurosport).
Me too. I am so bummed! I guess it's a day of Netflix for me.
Link to Swighey's quote...
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UK Championship 2021 - ‘There has to be the FA Cup story’ - Judd Trump backs amateur involvement - Eurosport
World number two Judd Trump says snooker needs storylines like the amateurs knocking out top players at the UK Championship.
I’m disappointed in Murphy....and I’m disappointed in Robertson and Selby for siding with him.
But I’m really disappointed in Mark Williams, who I felt has the best attitude of all the pros.
If you lose to somebody, shake his hand and go lick your wounds in private..or maybe work on your game.
But I’m really disappointed in Mark Williams, who I felt has the best attitude of all the pros.
If you lose to somebody, shake his hand and go lick your wounds in private..or maybe work on your game.
Evidently we are doing Wikipedia Wars. That page now reads:
As a amateur, Si beat Shaun Murphy in the first round of the 2021 UK Championship. Murphy commented, "he [Si] played like a man who does not have a care in the world, because he does not have a care in the world. It is not fair, it is not right. I am not picking on him as a young man, he deserved his victory. Amateurs should not be allowed in professional tournaments, the end. This is our livelihood. This is how I put food on the table. This is how I earn money. Since turning professional at 15, I have earned the right to call myself a professional snooker player. He hasn't done that. He shouldn't be on the table." Shaun made these comments despite playing the 1998 Doc Marten's European League as a 13 year old boy, as his dad Tony had negotiated the sponsorship deal for the WPBSA.
Try sleeping on a pool table. I have, and you won't like it! Sleeping under the pool table on a carpeted floor is far preferred!
I know there was a thread that already discussed this topic, but I found this interesting....
‘It is not fair’: Murphy rails at amateurs in pro snooker … after defeat by amateur
Shaun Murphy crashed out in the first round of the UK Championship and said his 6-5 defeat by Si Jiahui was ‘not fair’ because amateurs should not be allowed in professional tournamentswww.theguardian.com
Wah,
wah.
Lou Figueroa
wouldn't have heard
a peep if he'd won
When I was 16 and beating all the adults in the pool hall where I worked, they whined and moaned, too.
However, when I went into bars where nobody knew me, everybody ”knows” they can beat a “kid” and I used to get all their money if they stayed with me long enough.
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tomatoshooter
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I love the phrase "disgraceful display of amateur sportsmanship."