I've been thinking of giving up pool for cow chip throwing. I've been working on some low-deflection cow chips....
So ESPN can't find time for pool?
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Just some advice, low deflection is great, but pay real close attention to squirt, because low deflection may not be as important....ducking might be though!!!
I used to play pool in places and have people lining the walls to watch…people that didn’t even play pool.
I provided entertainment in addition to pool.
People who do not play pool are not going to spend much time watching players acting like pall bearers sitting around in a funeral parlor.
Guys these type of threads keep coming about ESPN not showing pool of why isn’t pool in the Olympic and for the life of me I can’t understand why Azb people don’t get it!
pool is BORING to watch and fun to play!!! You guys really need to get this!
you could pay a non pool player to watch and still be may refuse!!! Hell even pool players sometimes cannot watch pool!!! It is very very boring
All of the games are boring to watch.. even 9ball!! You either invent a new game for pocket Billiards or just play solo… pool players aren’t famous nor rich for a reason!!
My guess is the only way pool may be watched is maybe a shootout quick pace game. Other than that nobody will show or watch pool
A shootout game may be accepted in the Olympic just needs few modifications. Has to be exciting and quick. Also with shootout you can have multiple players to compete in one game which makes it perfect for the Olympics
pool is BORING to watch and fun to play!!! You guys really need to get this!
you could pay a non pool player to watch and still be may refuse!!! Hell even pool players sometimes cannot watch pool!!! It is very very boring
All of the games are boring to watch.. even 9ball!! You either invent a new game for pocket Billiards or just play solo… pool players aren’t famous nor rich for a reason!!
My guess is the only way pool may be watched is maybe a shootout quick pace game. Other than that nobody will show or watch pool
A shootout game may be accepted in the Olympic just needs few modifications. Has to be exciting and quick. Also with shootout you can have multiple players to compete in one game which makes it perfect for the Olympics
You're missing out on the 14M subscribers to Flutter Entertainment, ALL gamblers!!!
You're also underestimating the viewer support for the top players from other countries, they're NOT like Americans when it comes to viewership!!!!
One name. Don Mackey.
Is Don the reason also that pool has never had any form of organization?
If pool actually has an organizational body of leadership, one man would have never broken it!!!
He did lots of harm, no question about that
But if it was a viable biz someone would have filled that gap.
Can’t give him that much credit-ruining pool forever is more than he could accomplish.
The World Trade Center was blown to bits, a replacement was right behind it. Things come and go in life. When they stay gone-there’s a reason. Blaming one person for pool not being on TV 20 years later-not so sure about that.
Actually, you cannot tell for sure how much damage he did .
ESPN finally aired LIVE matches the year before . Breedlove vs Hopkins, as one of them iirc . Then the finals match.
Then that dude got in the act and did not want to deal. Then PBT was relegated to Prime Ticket .
Then Camel entered then he sued Camel . Then Camel said F U and then they were gone .
Obviously, ESPN wanted to air their matches that's why they wanted to negotiate a deal .
And no telling where the sport would be now HAD ESPN gotten the tv contract for PBT.
Efren and Archer might be household names today .
Now, I bet you nobody at ESPN even want to talk to any pool personality.
If pool would generate viewership they would air it. Or someone else would. I can assure you someone would. There’s always a whore out there to make money where there is money.
It just amazes me when threads like this pop up.
ESPN absolutely NEVER had any serious interest in pool. Typically, they accommodated pool entities that were willing to buy the air time and pay their own production costs, but ESPN, essentially, had no financial stake in the outcome. Anyone who used to watch the pool events on ESPN will recall that the advertisements were always for either the venue hosting the event or a sponsor inside the pool industry, such as APA, which often advertised during those telecasts.
ESPN would, of course, review the ratings of pool events and measure which demographics groups were watching. What they found was that the ratings were modest but not terrible, but the demographics were disheartening. The viewers were largely older and lower income groups, the ones of no great import to advertisers.
Barry Hearn, in his 2013 BCA Hall of Fame induction speech, related his experiences in dealing with American sports television, bemoaning the lack of respect for the sport that he had encountered with genuine disgust.
Finally, with regard to those who suggest that Mackey is the reason pool is unorganized, let's not forget that until the roof caved in on it, the PBT/Camel series had greater organization than what is typically found today in American pool.
ESPN absolutely NEVER had any serious interest in pool. Typically, they accommodated pool entities that were willing to buy the air time and pay their own production costs, but ESPN, essentially, had no financial stake in the outcome. Anyone who used to watch the pool events on ESPN will recall that the advertisements were always for either the venue hosting the event or a sponsor inside the pool industry, such as APA, which often advertised during those telecasts.
ESPN would, of course, review the ratings of pool events and measure which demographics groups were watching. What they found was that the ratings were modest but not terrible, but the demographics were disheartening. The viewers were largely older and lower income groups, the ones of no great import to advertisers.
Barry Hearn, in his 2013 BCA Hall of Fame induction speech, related his experiences in dealing with American sports television, bemoaning the lack of respect for the sport that he had encountered with genuine disgust.
Finally, with regard to those who suggest that Mackey is the reason pool is unorganized, let's not forget that until the roof caved in on it, the PBT/Camel series had greater organization than what is typically found today in American pool.
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As I see it, if televised pool can be successful, it should be possible to make Youtube / streamed pool successful too.
And if you can do that, you don't need TV.
There is a lot of streamed pool out there. If someone can figure out how to turn it into a watchable, compelling form of entertainment, the sky's the limit.
(Also the potential for some kind of tie-in with the Miniclip game seems like it could be huge, if someone could make it work.)
And if you can do that, you don't need TV.
There is a lot of streamed pool out there. If someone can figure out how to turn it into a watchable, compelling form of entertainment, the sky's the limit.
(Also the potential for some kind of tie-in with the Miniclip game seems like it could be huge, if someone could make it work.)
How does free pool viewing on YouTube translate into sponsorship dollars to support pool? Everyone who makes these suggestions must think money is going to just fall out of the sky. Clicks on YouTube videos interest advertisers, but thats AFTER the fact, whos putting up the money to create those YouTube videos in the first place, or are players expected to WAIT to get paid, based on video clicks? Then, who's going to be doing the playing?.
Where I was at today TV was on, ESPN was airing something that looked like game of tag on obstical course.
Never did figure it out, or what this game was called?
Never did figure it out, or what this game was called?
Not your demographics, or you would have recognized the sport right away.