So..you want a professional lesson? (LONG post)

Bryan...:nono::grin: The eye pattern drill (Mother Drill #3) is ESSENTIAL for a higher level game! Glad to hear you're playing better!

For anyone interested, Pool School in Tampa is scheduled for Oct. 23-25! We have two slots left for this school. PM me for details.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

BryanBpool said:
It only takes about 15 minutes.... I am wildly lazy :-p
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Thanks Gregg! :D This weekend I'm at Sheridan College, in Sheridan WY, having a blast with the kids here! I'm also putting on a clinic for the local league players. Then it's off to Montana!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Gregg said:
Aside from a great teacher of the game, Scott Lee is a great ambassador for the game, and inspires others around him to play a better game of pool.
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mattiefingaz said:
From the guidance I've received in this forum I found an instructor to work with to get me where I want to be. I don't play in a league, I don't want to make money by betting on my game. I just want to be better.....for me....I know that sounds wild...but it's the truth...well maybe beating my pool mentor after all these years plays a part.
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mattiefingaz said:
I will recommend Mr. Lee without question.

Scott was patient, knowledgeable, insightful and charasmatic....oh, and did I say patient? I felt like I was 200 miles behind the learning curve, but he never showed it. He had to repeat himself, with my slow learning ass, dozens of times, but never indicated any semblance of frustration. He spoke of players and situations so casually that you felt like you were there.

Now to the goods of the lesson.

If you want Scott to show up, give you a lesson and then be out the door leaving you to beat the world...don't sign up.

What he gives is a PERFECT analysis of what you're presently doing and what you can do to make your game better. No quick fixes kids.

There's no pill that he, or any other instructor, has that can change your game in 20 minutes after taking. It's hard work on my part to put in place the things that I was taught.

I guess it's time for me to go back to the title of this thread..."So...you want a professional lesson".
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mattiefingaz said:
If you're ready to put in the hard work that Mr. Lee or any other instructor asks of you...then it's 163% worth it (picked a random number above 100% to see who was paying attention)

If you think that the cost of a lesson is money wasted and you can get better by dropping the cash on a new cue with a low deflection shaft....I'm sorry.
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Mattie, I agree with the above quotes whole heartedly.

I had the pleasure of having Scott Lee's instruction, and will reccommed without question his services to anyone who is genuinely looking for quality instruction.

Scott, If you're still reading, I'm still reaping the benifits from the half day course. Though I can't play very much anymore (maybe 2 hours a week now :( ), I do notice a definate improvement in my consistancy once I get my feet underneath me from so much time off the table.
 
Just an interesting aside, as it seems obvious that most knowledgeable pool players recognize the value of good instruction.

The lack of widespread, quality stroke instruction is one of several reasons that the game is not more popular. Many potential players are fascinated initially with the beauty of this tremendous game; but as they throw themselves hopefully into the game; they find that improvement is slow or absent and eventually give up.

The reason for this is that the amount of precision necessary to play excellent pool is smaller than any player can perceive. Differences of a millimeter in contact points on cue ball and object ball can be significant; but will never be seen by the naked eye. Unless their practice is based on sound fundamentals, and geared towards working toward the necessary ultra-precision, most players may not improve at all. Following sound fundamentals shortens the learning curve, but IT IS STILL A VERY VERY LONG CURVE.

I've heard noted instructor Mark Wilson say that there are more good instructors in the U.S. now than ever before; but that the number is still woefully small (probably less than 20). It was very interesting that he specifically mentioned as great instructors RandyG, Scott Lee, and Bob Jewett who all post on this forum in general, and on this thread specifically.

The members who do not realize what a tremendous privilege it is for us to have the input of such notables are sadly uninformed, and missing out on what could be a valuable source of info. Many thanks to the instructors on the forum. Though I've not had lessons with any of them, I am definitely an admirer.
 
Williebetmore said:
Just an interesting aside, as it seems obvious that most knowledgeable pool players recognize the value of good instruction.

The lack of widespread, quality stroke instruction is one of several reasons that the game is not more popular. Many potential players are fascinated initially with the beauty of this tremendous game; but as they throw themselves hopefully into the game; they find that improvement is slow or absent and eventually give up.

The reason for this is that the amount of precision necessary to play excellent pool is smaller than any player can perceive. Differences of a millimeter in contact points on cue ball and object ball can be significant; but will never be seen by the naked eye. Unless their practice is based on sound fundamentals, and geared towards working toward the necessary ultra-precision, most players may not improve at all. Following sound fundamentals shortens the learning curve, but IT IS STILL A VERY VERY LONG CURVE.

I've heard noted instructor Mark Wilson say that there are more good instructors in the U.S. now than ever before; but that the number is still woefully small (probably less than 20). It was very interesting that he specifically mentioned as great instructors RandyG, Scott Lee, and Bob Jewett who all post on this forum in general, and on this thread specifically.

The members who do not realize what a tremendous privilege it is for us to have the input of such notables are sadly uninformed, and missing out on what could be a valuable source of info. Many thanks to the instructors on the forum. Though I've not had lessons with any of them, I am definitely an admirer.[/QU
Nice post Mr. Williebetmore. Scott generates unsolicited testimonials. And to Scott--come West young man. CharlieB
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I have an idea. Scott, would you be willing to knock a little off the price of a lesson if I agree to write up a swell testimonial for you on azb.com? just an idea.

-Devin
 
Sorry, but that grates on me the wrong way. I am often asked the same question in my business. Why can't people just pay the asking price for the goods or services and say something nice if it was a good value?

Yes, I have given in to demands like this to break into a new market, but it's not fun. Basically, you do all the labor, then ship your product at cost and hope something good comes out of it. And we all know about hope.
 
I agree with the seed post 100% (and I'm not much concerned whether this sounds like an advertisement; I'm not getting paid). Scott has elevated my game (and my wife's game) and has given me all the tools I need to improve whenever I notice something isn't working -- something I didn't have before.
 
Gatz said:
These always seem like advertisements to me :eek:
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Testimonials in my opinion should be welcomed.

So should constructive criticism.

To that point, I've already shared my wonderful experience as a student in RandyG's traveling Pool School that came up to New England. I can't give him and his team any higher praise than I have already.

With Scott, I have never taken a lesson from him. But I've watched him in action. IMO, Scott Lee is everything a student would want in a teacher. His instruction flows well, he's an excellent speaker, he can demonstrate what he talks about, he listens, and has the unique ability to observe while instructing. All this while I'm heckling him. Now that's strong.

Fred
 
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Cornerman said:
Testimonials in my opinion should be welcomed.

So should constructive criticism.

Fred
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Fred-man,
Very true.

I think most instructors would shy away from wanting much credit for the accomplishments of their pupils; because they surely don't want responsibility for the terrible play of the uncommitted, undisciplined students who ignore their advice.

In my view, the best an instructor can do is to give the student the tools necessary to improve. This game is FREAKING TOUGH to play at a high level, and the student must really want it, and must show the proper dedication and practice habits. A good instructor can reduce the time required to gain proficiency, but it is still a VERY LONG TIME; even with large amounts of daily focused practice.

My hat is off to the instructors, because I would NOT have the patience for it.
 
Williebetmore said:
My hat is off to the instructors, because I would NOT have the patience for it.
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Good pool players all have patience, otherwise, they could never put in all the hours of practice required to reach the high level of playing.
Instructors have patience as well. In some cases, it has just been re-directed.

I used to spend hours working on developing my game. Now, I spend those hours working on helping others develop their game.

Not much difference, when you think about it.

Steve
 
pooltchr said:
Good pool players all have patience,
Steve
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Steve,
What you say is inarguably true....in my own defense I should further explain that I would not have the patience for teaching because I WANT TO BE SHOOTING THOSE BALLS.

I just love the game, and it would be excruciating to have to spend so much time watching, and so little time shooting, but I am thankful there are dedicated instructors that feel as you do.
 
Scott Lee said:
Don...We do it because we LOVE it, and enjoy helping others learn to teach themselves how to play better, and have a better insight into the various games! :grin:

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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Scott, I will soon be planning some lessons from various top instructors(for diff games) across the US. Where are you located, I thought I heard the mid-west? I guess what I'm asking is do you travel for private lessons, and what would the cost be for a whole day? If I go to you what would the cost be for a whole day?

Thanks,
Grey Ghost

I want to keep progressing the things I have learned, and learn more. I am a player, and do give some lessons myself in the area(south L.A.) So not only for my own game, but to better help others that seek improvement from my knowledge. Also thinking about possibly becoming BCA certified and would like more info on this also.
 
Grey Ghost...I live in MI, but travel 200 days a year, teaching coast to coast. I'll be in the Los Angeles area the beginning of December, and I''d be happy to work with you there, if you like. The cost is the same, whether I come to you, or you come to me. My rates are listed on my website.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

greyghost said:
Scott, I will soon be planning some lessons from various top instructors(for diff games) across the US. Where are you located, I thought I heard the mid-west? I guess what I'm asking is do you travel for private lessons, and what would the cost be for a whole day? If I go to you what would the cost be for a whole day?

Thanks,
Grey Ghost

I want to keep progressing the things I have learned, and learn more. I am a player, and do give some lessons myself in the area(south L.A.) So not only for my own game, but to better help others that seek improvement from my knowledge. Also thinking about possibly becoming BCA certified and would like more info on this also.
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randyg said:
Mattie: Time to get started on your Mother Drills. Couple of times a week if possible.

Check in with us in a couple of weeks and let us know how things are going.....SPF=randyg
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I love my mother drills.
 
dsearcy said:
What is the going price?
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Check out Scott's site. His lessons are a good value.

http://www.poolknowledge.com/

I still refer to what Scott showed me 2 yrs later. I would like to attend a group clinic in the future.

It is a different approach from whacking the balls in and I hate to tell you it is not a magic solution but he sure shows you how to get on a path that can get you better.

If you take a lesson and think you did not get your moneys worth please post and PM me a link to the topic. I would be shocked.
 
elvicash said:
Check out Scott's site. His lessons are a good value.

http://www.poolknowledge.com/

I still refer to what Scott showed me 2 yrs later. I would like to attend a group clinic in the future.

It is a different approach from whacking the balls in and I hate to tell you it is not a magic solution but he sure shows you how to get on a path that can get you better.

If you take a lesson and think you did not get your moneys worth please post and PM me a link to the topic. I would be shocked.
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Yes, me too. Scott gives 100% in all his lessons.....SPF=randyg
 
My testimonial

Here is my testimonial based a very recent experience. it was my great pleasure and fortune to meet RandyG on Tuesday this week. due to my schedule we only had 3 hours, randy was very accommadating, seemed genuinely happy to meet me. we sat and talked for a bit and then he put me to work shooting. we then moved to another table where he had me shoot 7 shots for video. at all times Randy was curteous and patient, once done we sat down and he graded my performance. Randy was direct to the point, i scored 0's on a few areas but at the same time he was fair and complimented me on other parts of my game(or lack of). we went back to the table with about an hour left and he had me stroking the ball sooo much better i couldnt believe it. i still have a lot of work to do but i now have a plan and direction to go in, not just banging balls around in the dark.

anyone who reads this who is interested in lessons would do themselves a great favor by seeking RandyG for advice. not only is he knowledgeable, but he realizes not everyone is made the same, he didnt try to make me do anything i wasnt capable of doing. he took into account my physical limitations and helped me find a way to achieve the goal - deliver the cue ball where it needs to go. i will say that as soon as i can find the time in my schedule i WILL attend his 3 day school.

Thank you RandyG

Mike
 
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