Standard Table Conditions Discussion

I solved the tight rack with magnets that are weak. See the diagram.
To make it a working solution the ball need adjustments to keep the center of mass true.

Let me know your assessment of this solution for a tight rack. I assume you can understand what the binary color scheme means for magnets.
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I want to add that static magnets will rack great but the balls really need electromagnets that are automatically disabled upon sensing an impulse for real playability.
 
Well, no. You're not providing ideas, you're still providing word-salad, together with the NEW image-salad.

Spend $10 and buy a set of those kid's toy magnetic balls. Try and set them up as if you were racking 8-ball, and then try to play a mini-pool game with them. You'll see the problem.

You have stuff in your basement you can use to make a fabric covered capacitor. Try it with your magnetic balls and you'll see the problem.

You're proposing a multi-year project, with the apparent end goal that it will "perform similarly to a pool table". Why not just use a pool table? You haven't proposed any value for this project, except that it will pay for your Doritos, Diet Pepsi, and weed. Why do you think your project, even if it could be done, would be useful to anyone?

You could propose a 49cc gasoline-powered Pogo Stick, and that's something that could be made, but who would want it? (Well, actually, I would kind of like to have a Turbo-Pogo for myself, particularly if it comes with the 'off-road' package and Full Self Driving!)

A timeline isn't just an end-date. It's a 'line' of dates. You need to describe your project in steps, with an estimated time for each step.
You obviously haven't been around academia long enough where 'useless' studies and experiments are pretty much the norm.

I point you to: Useless Research
 
I want to add that static magnets will rack great but the balls really need electromagnets that are automatically disabled upon sensing an impulse for real playability.
Gerryf is still struggling with understanding basic magnetism.
I agree with you but that talk might be above people's abilities.
 
Well, no. You're not providing ideas, you're still providing word-salad, together with the NEW image-salad.

Spend $10 and buy a set of those kid's toy magnetic balls. Try and set them up as if you were racking 8-ball, and then try to play a mini-pool game with them. You'll see the problem.

You have stuff in your basement you can use to make a fabric covered capacitor. Try it with your magnetic balls and you'll see the problem.

You're proposing a multi-year project, with the apparent end goal that it will "perform similarly to a pool table". Why not just use a pool table? You haven't proposed any value for this project, except that it will pay for your Doritos, Diet Pepsi, and weed. Why do you think your project, even if it could be done, would be useful to anyone?

You could propose a 49cc gasoline-powered Pogo Stick, and that's something that could be made, but who would want it? (Well, actually, I would kind of like to have a Turbo-Pogo for myself, particularly if it comes with the 'off-road' package and Full Self Driving!)

A timeline isn't just an end-date. It's a 'line' of dates. You need to describe your project in steps, with an estimated time for each step.
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Gerryf I will call it the Justin configuration of magnetic locking for a 15 ball system. The configuration can be generalized but not in lower dimensions. The Principle of multiple charges in a closed system, also called Justin's moment. Justin's Theory is a great introduction into magnetism in higher dimensions.

Do you want to publish the results for me? The Justin Lock or the Justin Topology, the Justin Mag Lasso or Justin's metric spaces a Justinian Surface or Justinian Spheres or The Justinian System

The solution to the tight rack will be practical.
 
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Gerryf I will call it the Justin configuration of magnetic locking for a 15 ball system. The configuration can be generalized but not in lower dimensions. The Principle of multiple charges in a closed system, also called Justin's moment. Justin's Theory is a great introduction into magnetism in higher dimensions.

Do you want to publish the results for me? The Justin Lock or the Justin Topology, the Justin Mag Lasso or Justin's metric spaces a Justinian Surface or Justinian Spheres or The Justinian System

The solution to the tight rack will be practical.
Well, we're making progress!

You have defined a project goal!!

Project Goal 1: Design a set of billiard balls that will always configure itself in a 'tight' rack.
Timeline: You said the balls exist and you can make a set in a day. You should do that to demonstrate it.
Cost: not yet defined.

As for the "Justin Lock", or the "Justin Topology", I would call it "Justin-ane."

You should spend more than four minutes on your design. It's not very good.

What's the project goal for your cloth?
 
Well, we're making progress!

You have defined a project goal!!

Project Goal 1: Design a set of billiard balls that will always configure itself in a 'tight' rack.
Timeline: You said the balls exist and you can make a set in a day. You should do that to demonstrate it.
Cost: not yet defined.

As for the "Justin Lock", or the "Justin Topology", I would call it "Justin-ane."

You should spend more than four minutes on your design. It's not very good.

What's the project goal for your cloth?

Enough levitation to eliminate frictional drag. So how is my course going.

If you would like to continue being my student there is a fee and application required.

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Enough levitation to eliminate frictional drag. So how is my course going.

If you would like to continue being my student there is a fee and application required.

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This sounds different than Maxwell Cloth.

Project Goal 2: Develop a billiards cloth that can levitate (the balls?) to eliminate frictional drag.
Timeline: Unknown
Cost: Unknown.

Since the timeline for your magnetic balls was one day, and that's clearly not true, i suspect your one-year timeline for the cloth is also inaccurate.

So now we have:

Project Goal 1: Design a set of billiard balls that will always configure itself in a 'tight' rack.
Timeline: You said the balls exist and you can make a set in a day. You should do that to demonstrate it.
Cost: not yet defined.

Project Goal 2: Develop a billiards cloth that can levitate (the balls?) to eliminate frictional drag.
Timeline: Unknown
Cost: Unknown.

Any more goals? Maybe develop a new cape for Superman?
 
This sounds different than Maxwell Cloth.

Project Goal 2: Develop a billiards cloth that can levitate (the balls?) to eliminate frictional drag.
Timeline: Unknown
Cost: Unknown.

Since the timeline for your magnetic balls was one day, and that's clearly not true, i suspect your one-year timeline for the cloth is also inaccurate.

So now we have:

Project Goal 1: Design a set of billiard balls that will always configure itself in a 'tight' rack.
Timeline: You said the balls exist and you can make a set in a day. You should do that to demonstrate it.
Cost: not yet defined.

Project Goal 2: Develop a billiards cloth that can levitate (the balls?) to eliminate frictional drag.
Timeline: Unknown
Cost: Unknown.

Any more goals? Maybe develop a new cape for Superman?

If you want to be qualified to solve those types of problems, just submit an application for the admissions process.
At my clearance level you need more than an internet username for that discussion.
 
If you want to be qualified to solve those types of problems, just submit an application for the admissions process.
At my clearance level you need more than an internet username for that discussion.
Of course!! I can see why you'd want to keep this project Top Secret. If anyone i worked with had ideas like this, they'd keep them Top Secret too!

So we have the two project goals, but no timelines, or cost estimates.

If we ignore Elephant #1 in the room - your lack of physics and mathematics - and if we ignore Elephant #2 in the room - whether or not you can actually produce anything, - we're still left with other questions

Is there value in having billiard balls that always configure themselves in a tight rack?
Is there value in having a billiard cloth that can levitate the balls?
Who's the target market behind this project?
Why does this project deserve financial support?
 
Of course!! I can see why you'd want to keep this project Top Secret. If anyone i worked with had ideas like this, they'd keep them Top Secret too!

So we have the two project goals, but no timelines, or cost estimates.

If we ignore Elephant #1 in the room - your lack of physics and mathematics - and if we ignore Elephant #2 in the room - whether or not you can actually produce anything, - we're still left with other questions

Is there value in having billiard balls that always configure themselves in a tight rack?
Is there value in having a billiard cloth that can levitate the balls?
Who's the target market behind this project?
Why does this project deserve financial support?

You talk nice for a secretary, or are you a project management specialist?

1) Tight rack with magnetic precision is better than ref. Magnets provide repeatable precision. Less chance of players complaining.
2) Call it non-frictional cloth, eliminating the friction means players will need even more controlled precision/accuracy of their stroke.
3) Initially was just a fun project for me to display my amazing innovative and creative problem solving abilities. Since I have gained a following I will not disappoint my followers.
4) Financial support is needed for production and promotion of the equipment, I set out on a goal to create fun physics experiments. The standard physics experiments in high school and college are good but need improving. The financial support would allow me to promote the product to colleges and high schools with a focus on STEAM. It would also be used to pay for my trips to promote the product at academic conferences as a keynote/sponsored speaker.

Gerryf or whoever you claim to be, you sound like a bright young mind with a long future. Try to hang in there, innovations are slow to the untrained mind. For the rest of us being creative with science is like painting with colors, you just have to put something down.
 
You talk nice for a secretary, or are you a project management specialist?

1) Tight rack with magnetic precision is better than ref. Magnets provide repeatable precision. Less chance of players complaining.
2) Call it non-frictional cloth, eliminating the friction means players will need even more controlled precision/accuracy of their stroke.
3) Initially was just a fun project for me to display my amazing innovative and creative problem solving abilities. Since I have gained a following I will not disappoint my followers.
4) Financial support is needed for production and promotion of the equipment, I set out on a goal to create fun physics experiments. The standard physics experiments in high school and college are good but need improving. The financial support would allow me to promote the product to colleges and high schools with a focus on STEAM. It would also be used to pay for my trips to promote the product at academic conferences as a keynote/sponsored speaker.

Gerryf or whoever you claim to be, you sound like a bright young mind with a long future. Try to hang in there, innovations are slow to the untrained mind. For the rest of us being creative with science is like painting with colors, you just have to put something down.

So would you expect the magnetic balls to be used only in tournaments where there's a ref doing the racking, or would you expect magnetic balls to get a wide following and be adopted by all pool halls?

Non-frictional cloth would change the physics of the game. Can you specify some ways the game would be different? Do you think players would be interested in the changed game?

It sounds like you would need financial support to
  1. develop these products,
  2. manufacture the products, and
  3. market the products to both the scientific and technical community, and to the billiards community.
 
So would you expect the magnetic balls to be used only in tournaments where there's a ref doing the racking, or would you expect magnetic balls to get a wide following and be adopted by all pool halls?

Non-frictional cloth would change the physics of the game. Can you specify some ways the game would be different? Do you think players would be interested in the changed game?

It sounds like you would need financial support to
  1. develop these products,
  2. manufacture the products, and
  3. market the products to both the scientific and technical community, and to the billiards community.

When an academic speaker is invited there are certain protocols before the Socratic method of questioning is used.

We can continue this discussion after you contact my current academic institution with the request for me to give a talk. It will help me launch an institute of math at the location.

I do prefer to give in person talks and will have the 15 mag ball set available for demonstration. After the lecture I will answer questions for a few minutes.
 
When an academic speaker is invited there are certain protocols before the Socratic method of questioning is used.

We can continue this discussion after you contact my current academic institution with the request for me to give a talk. It will help me launch an institute of math at the location.

I do prefer to give in person talks and will have the 15 mag ball set available for demonstration. After the lecture I will answer questions for a few minutes.
Well, there's still the question whether this project deserves funding support.

You haven't answered the question of how the physics of the game would change with friction-less cloth? What are the pros and cons? Why would players prefer to play on your friction-less cloth over the normal friction cloth?

You also haven't answered the question of what level of financial support are you looking for? Are you looking for funding just to develop the balls and cloth, and then you'd partner up with Aramith or Cyclops or Predator to develop and market the products?

What is your current academic institution?
 
Well, there's still the question whether this project deserves funding support.

You haven't answered the question of how the physics of the game would change with friction-less cloth? What are the pros and cons? Why would players prefer to play on your friction-less cloth over the normal friction cloth?

You also haven't answered the question of what level of financial support are you looking for? Are you looking for funding just to develop the balls and cloth, and then you'd partner up with Aramith or Cyclops or Predator to develop and market the products?

What is your current academic institution?
My about on AZ has linkedin. All details can be found. Dont message me on linkedin asking, call my staff at the institution.
 
My about on AZ has linkedin. All details can be found. Dont message me on linkedin asking, call my staff at the institution.
Well, there's still the question whether this project deserves funding support.

You haven't answered the question of how the physics of the game would change with friction-less cloth? What are the pros and cons? Why would players prefer to play on your friction-less cloth over the normal friction cloth?

You also haven't answered the question of what level of financial support are you looking for? Are you looking for funding just to develop the balls and cloth, and then you'd partner up with Aramith or Cyclops or Predator to develop and market the products?
 
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I'm just a modern guy with money sign sigh
I can't just help you out my man
I'll need this back
With a 25 percentage line and uh
You'll earn back most of my respect
So keep your nose clean keep it on a shoe string
With no opposing no undue disclosing
Nothing stale nothing old or decomposing
Nothing empty nothing bold or over knowing
Nothing more than tasteful reconstruction
Of the plot that edifies all our instructions
It's on the goodness of our dime that you can function
With your big ideas
Oh now you've got my cash
But so what nothing really lasts
Still I'm betting o this crash
It's just easier, it's easier.
-A.Lazar
 
Well, there's still the question whether this project deserves funding support.

You haven't answered the question of how the physics of the game would change with friction-less cloth? What are the pros and cons? Why would players prefer to play on your friction-less cloth over the normal friction cloth?

You also haven't answered the question of what level of financial support are you looking for? Are you looking for funding just to develop the balls and cloth, and then you'd partner up with Aramith or Cyclops or Predator to develop and market the products?
If your ideas were cooking, you'd be proposing a soup filled burrito.

There is no market for the product you dream farted out. Not at any cost and certainly not in any widespread manner.
The rules specifically say nothing on the table during play, but template rack developers paid off the rulemakers for an exception.

There is a war within the billiard scientist community.

Which side are you on?

Are you strict to the word or are you free to interpret the written spirit of the word?
 
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