Stuff Like This Destroys My Enthusiasm......

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DrCue'sProtege

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ok, folks, i havent posted a shot/diagram in a long time, and i know many of you out there are clamoring for one. so, here you go!

as everyone is aware i do nothing but complain about the horrible luck and rolls i get. this happens almost each and every time i play. the following is a good example. diagram #1 is the layout i had after the break shot. i saw no other option but to pocket the 2-Ball (which, even though the diagram doesnt quite depict the shot, it was a pretty difficult/thin cut shot into my unforgiving side pocket) and come around three rails with some high left and try and break up the 4-3 cluster. this, as far as i am concerned, was pretty much executed to perfection. when i saw the 2-Ball fall in and the cue ball come around three rails at just the right angle, with what i felt was pretty much the right speed, i was in high heaven for that fleeting moment. here is the shot and diagram:

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anyway, after the cue ball went into the cluster and the balls settled, just my luck, here is what i ended up with:

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now how on earth can anyone just be so continually unlucky??? this crap just goes on and on and on and on and on and on, just about every day, nothing but horrible, HORRIBLE rolls and luck, and just seemingly wont ever stop destroying my enthusiasm and mental approach to the game. and bear in mind this occurred after i had just broke about twenty times with absolute no chance, none, zilch, of running out. i was already about to give up and go light a cigar and watch the ballgame, and just quit for the day. when i ended up with this horrible roll i just dropped to my knees and stared at the wall, in utter disbelief how any one person who tries as hard as i do can just constantly be plagued by non-stop horribly bad luck.

DCP
 
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Mike

There is no rule that says that you need to or should pocket the 2 ball. If in a match, I would have tried to play safe... sort of like this...

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Thinking offensively is good when you get rewarded for your offense. In this situation, you are probably best advised to play safe, at least that is my opinion.
 
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It is not luck, you hit it there, quit crying and keep practicing and your so called luck will turn around when you start playing better.
 
Luck

If you remember correctly in the movie the Color of Money, Paul Newman says, "the balls roll funny for everyone, kid!"

Why don't you quit crying long enough to realize that you have an easy kick at the 3 from here! At least it isn't glued on the 4 anymore!

If you don't like the rolls you get, and you all you are going to do is cry and moan about this game then quit! This game is fun, and it is stuff like bad rolls and luck that make it exciting! It makes this game what it is, and if you don't like it then quit playing it.

On another note! If you want to cry about being unlucky, then you will be unlucky! That is part of the mental process in this game! If you always think the glass is half empty, then my friend you look at the world in the wrong perspective and you will never get ahead.

Be glad you have an easy kick at the 3, and have fun! Or start doing what everyone else would have done and play safe so that your opponent would have to worry about the 3.

OR SHUT UP!
 
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try changing your break........i experimented with a soft break the other day, with draw and bringing the 1 and the cue back up table and making a wingball.....have to say it worked pretty good.
 
Blackjack said:
Mike

There is no rule that says that you need to or should pocket the 2 ball. If in a match, I would have tried to play safe... sort of like this...

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Thinking offensively is good when you get rewarded for your offense. In this situation, you are probably best advised to play safe, at least that is my opinion.
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well, as i stated, the cut shot on the 2-Ball was pretty thin, more so than the diagram depicts. i felt if i could pocket the 2-Ball i had pretty much the open path to the 4-3 cluster. and if i missed the 2-Ball, leaving the cue ball down by the 4-3 would leave a potential opponent with a difficult shot on the 2-Ball since the 7-Ball blocked the corner pocket.

but, as my luck almost always goes, i make a really good shot, and my reward was another horribly bad roll - for the 10 millionth time..........:(

DCP
 
its actually not a bad roll,the cue went right through the line you picked.theres too much that can wrong with this shot but hitting the 4 straight on leaves nothing.you would have needed to come in behind the 3 to break them out to even have a shot.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
well, as i stated, the cut shot on the 2-Ball was pretty thin, more so than the diagram depicts. i felt if i could pocket the 2-Ball i had pretty much the open path to the 4-3 cluster. and if i missed the 2-Ball, leaving the cue ball down by the 4-3 would leave a potential opponent with a difficult shot on the 2-Ball since the 7-Ball blocked the corner pocket.

but, as my luck almost always goes, i make a really good shot, and my reward was another horribly bad roll - for the 10 millionth time..........:(

DCP
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Here we go with DCP's usual excuses! Quit making excuses, and realize there were two different ways to play the shot. Either the way you did, or to play safe instead.

Did you get a bad roll? Maybe, but who cares! You could still get to the 3 and it wasn't glued to the 4!

Now quit crying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 :eek:
 
Nope

Pocketing a ball, difficult cut or not, does not necessarily warrant it being called a good shot, its primarily whether you get the desired shape.

So suck it up and learn from a mistake, don't do it again, and play a safety next time.

Playing smart pool, not making miracle shots, will turn you into a better player.
 
but, as my luck almost always goes, i make a really good shot, and my reward was another horribly bad roll - for the 10 millionth time..........:(

Sorry, but it wasn't really bad luck at all. You just didn't consider all the possiblilities inherent in that shot. The way you played that breakout, coming straight into it like that, was "fraught with danger" as they say. Lot's of bad things could happen and only a few good things.

There were other options. You just have to start to recognise the possible dangers that can occur on certain shots and stay away from them or plan them better.

Then your "luck" will change.

Ed
 
maybe this

I think that I would have hit the shot with hi left myself and tried to get in behind the 4 to split them up and get a shot on the 3. But what do I know.

highrun55
 
Well, being more of a straight pool player I saw the shot a little differently and perhaps incorrectly also.

I would have tried to bank the two cross corner to the bottom left corner pocket and stunned the cue down the rail into the 4/3 kind of a two way shot.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
now how on earth can anyone just be so continually unlucky??? [...]plagued by non-stop horribly bad luck.

DCP
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This is really a perception issue:
1) You perceive all bad results as stemming from bad luck. The truth here is that it is not all bad luck, and has elements of imperfect skill. E.g., a lack of practice, lack of knowledge, lack of concentration, etc.

2) You percieve all good results as stemming from good skill. The truth here is that it is not all skill, and has elements of good luck. E.g., a shot hit too hard, hit too soft, hit at the wrong angle but backs into a good result, etc.

The reality is, every shot that can have a "luck" component will also have a "skill" component. The more refined your ability to control a shot, the higher chance you will have of achieving a favorable result. That is, the more skillful you are, the more "lucky" you get. Ask a top pro and they'll probably agree that the more they practice the luckier they are.

Once you get to a consistent skill level, the "rolls" even out. If you also paid attention to how many times you got "good" rolls viz a viz the "bad" rolls you present here, you will probably find they are about
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-td
 
dimes33 said:
hmmm. why not thin the 2 and duck behind the 9?
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I agree, I have go along with dimes33 and Blackljack. Just because you have a shot at making the 2, doesn't mean you have to. Probably should have ducked as they indicated. But another thought for you, if you are going to try to break out balls that are situated like the 3/4 you showed, look at going 4 or 5 rails and breaking them out from the back side.

If you come in below the balls, you will definatley have a shot on the three and if not a good one, you should still be able to duck. Anytime you come in on the top side of the balls and the top ball is not your next shot, you always have that possibility of getting hooked. Good luck and remember, learn from your mistakes.
 
klockdoc said:
I agree, I have go along with dimes33 and Blackljack. Just because you have a shot at making the 2, doesn't mean you have to. Probably should have ducked as they indicated. But another thought for you, if you are going to try to break out balls that are situated like the 3/4 you showed, look at going 4 or 5 rails and breaking them out from the back side.

If you come in below the balls, you will definatley have a shot on the three and if not a good one, you should still be able to duck. Anytime you come in on the top side of the balls and the top ball is not your next shot, you always have that possibility of getting hooked. Good luck and remember, learn from your mistakes.
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Firstly, if you call the shot on the 2 a hard shot, you need to rethink some things.

Secondly, there are some who would duck here, but if you are afraid to get offensice or aggressive here, you need to take up a different game.

Thirdly, there are nearly as many bad rolls in pool as there are bad decisions or bad planning.
 
ironman said:
Secondly, there are some who would duck here, but if you are afraid to get offensice or aggressive here, you need to take up a different game.
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I've been contemplating giving up pool for Twister. :rolleyes:
 
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