Yes I do, But this table was never going to be perfect, It was a snooker table converted.
TAR/Jcin, pocket size on that 5x10?
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Yes I do, But this table was never going to be perfect, It was a snooker table converted.
5X10 Gold Crowns are marvelous tables to have.
You can have snooker, pool, or 3-cushion rails on them.
I've played on all these conditions and have been satisfied.
But I hate pockets that are shimmed wrong...loose or tight.
Hill-hill in a match once..Forced a 7-ball down a rail into a 4.25 pocket.
It would have been in on a snooker table...it hit a shim that had the wrong
angle, popped straight up and sat on the lip..WITHOUT hitting the
second jaw.
I wish RKC had done the work on that table.
regards
pt..<..who thanks you for a civilized response
I agree with the notion that both players had to play in the same conditions, up to a point.
During a race to 100 you are playing all over the table. If you have inconsistent pockets (one seemed to be a particularly stingy one) then a disadvantage becomes possible to the player shooting into the worst pocket(s) most often.
There should definitely be an environment where players are rewarded for great shotmaking. There were a number of instances for both guys in this match where they were shortchanged by the pockets.
I'm no table mechanic but I have to say that what TX Poolnut pointed out in post number 6 appears to be a poorly done pocket. Could this have changed the outcome of the match? Probably not, but we've all been there when a few balls rattled that we thought should have dropped in and it does mess with your head a little.
As for RKC, yeah, he might be a little full of himself sometimes but, being a rooster, I don't find strutting all that offensive. :wink: :grin:
FWIW, I've seen a lot of RKC's work and I never saw a pocket of his looking like this one.
Best,
Brian kc
During a race to 100 you are playing all over the table. If you have inconsistent pockets (one seemed to be a particularly stingy one) then a disadvantage becomes possible to the player shooting into the worst pocket(s) most often.
There should definitely be an environment where players are rewarded for great shotmaking. There were a number of instances for both guys in this match where they were shortchanged by the pockets.
I'm no table mechanic but I have to say that what TX Poolnut pointed out in post number 6 appears to be a poorly done pocket. Could this have changed the outcome of the match? Probably not, but we've all been there when a few balls rattled that we thought should have dropped in and it does mess with your head a little.
As for RKC, yeah, he might be a little full of himself sometimes but, being a rooster, I don't find strutting all that offensive. :wink: :grin:
FWIW, I've seen a lot of RKC's work and I never saw a pocket of his looking like this one.
Best,
Brian kc
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What's funny about this whole 10ft table thing...is that I offered to the promotors of this even to Diamondize what ever table they came up so that it would play right...and fair...but never heard back from them...and so they end up playing on a piece of junk....calling this the event of the century...right
When Mike and Earl came down to buy this table from me, it was set up correctly for pool..When he was testing it out, he was firing balls in from everywhere like it was a bar table..It was an awesome sight, because no one from around here could make balls like that on this table..the pocket openings were 4 1/4 inches all the way into the pocket..From what i see, now they are about 4 3/4 at the opening and prolly 4 where the ball drops..and the angles are funny..Also, the table had no roll off to it at all...it played perfect..the only thing bad about it when i had it was the diamonds on the rail were set up for snooker.
I have no idea who set the table up for mike and earl....But it was great to see my old table in action...I hope to see it again..
Zx24
Kudos to Shane
SHane stepped up and played Earls games, under Earl rules on Earls table bottom line. Earl playing with at 30oz almost 70 inch cue. Shane flat out was just not equipped for this match and earl was. Earl had all of the confidence and advantage in this match. So I dont see it as great of a defeat as everyone else. The table was gaffy at best then having to fade the public spectical that he has become was prob even more of a thing to fade.
SHane stepped up and played Earls games, under Earl rules on Earls table bottom line. Earl playing with at 30oz almost 70 inch cue. Shane flat out was just not equipped for this match and earl was. Earl had all of the confidence and advantage in this match. So I dont see it as great of a defeat as everyone else. The table was gaffy at best then having to fade the public spectical that he has become was prob even more of a thing to fade.
If you look at the plastic pocket going down into the hole you can see the right side but not the left. I'm guessing if you center the camera and the balls in that picture the pocket will appear to be much more symmetrical.
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no different then going on the road, you go play in another room & someone else's game/table
surely someone plays his speed should be able to adjust fairly quickly
other wise get to the poolroom a few days early to practice on the table
how often does both play on a 5x10 , point is the both played on the same table
surely someone plays his speed should be able to adjust fairly quickly
other wise get to the poolroom a few days early to practice on the table
how often does both play on a 5x10 , point is the both played on the same table
I agree they both played on the same table, but there isnt much you can do to a 8 or 9 footer to make it that gaffy. I think this is a little bit different situation here. You talking about a 5x10 that one of the players play and practices on regularly and it plays and rolls a little funny as well. Then factor in the circus act of name calling and breaking stuff and the lot. He should have won by more than 17 frankly. If you dont think those things played in Earls favor then I just think we are being honest here. I personally think he moved on Shane. THis is just my opinion, but i believe it. I think if they play anything again shane should have a few rules of his own. Earl has to sit there and be quiet and act respectfully the whole match. I mean minor frustration are ok but no outburst and slamming things, name calling or its a loss of game. I bet earl wouldnt get to 50. I have nothing personally against Earl, I think hes one of the greatest of all times, but I have personally witness him beratting the fans who paid money to watch him play. Not cool! Again this is my opinion on the matter. THanks
so what you're saying is, doesn't matter who the players are, what the format is, what the rules are, how it's being presented to the public, it can only be a "event of the century" if you worked on the table?
I beg to differ. I think a person could have a "event of the century" played on a pool table straight out of Walmart, if they wanted to.
Let's think about the tables the players of 10 years ago and longer, played on. Many historical matchups and champions were born from those tables. Back then, they played on whatever was in front of them and just dealt with it. Nowadays, we got players that only will play on a specific table in a specific room at a specific time at a specific temperature.
That table could have been a run down piece of shit...REAL 5x10 pocket pool table...and I wouldn't have said a word...but...calling a PHONEY...GAFF converted 5x10 snooker table a REAL 5x10 pocket pool table....is a joke...and playing on one is a joke as well. NEITHER player can ever truly play to their fullest extent because of the gaff pockets....BUT yes....you're right...in the end...ONE player will win....eventually! Playing on a table like this....is a circus act...nothing more!!!
Shane knew what he was getting into by agreeing to play a long race with Earl.
And it has been stated either here (or at the PPV chat) that Shane practiced on the table for ~5 days before the match... one day for 8 hours.
Simply stated, Earl outplayed Shane.
And it has been stated either here (or at the PPV chat) that Shane practiced on the table for ~5 days before the match... one day for 8 hours.
Simply stated, Earl outplayed Shane.
I'll be the first to agree that I wish the table would have been more of a normal type of table. I hate to see balls getting spit back out all the time, when it's a top professional shooting the ball at the hole.
Earl made it look like a perfectly normal table though.
I just wish both of them could have been shooting at the holes with confidence. Now THAT would have made it a match of the century then
Let's leave the circus out of this!!!!!
This is not SVBs first time playing Earl, so I don't think what you refer to as 'moving on Shane' played as large a role as you seem to think.
The conditions they played were agreed upon, so we do not need to discuss alternate rules...
I'll be the first to agree that I wish the table would have been more of a normal type of table. I hate to see balls getting spit back out all the time, when it's a top professional shooting the ball at the hole.
Earl made it look like a perfectly normal table though.
I just wish both of them could have been shooting at the holes with confidence. Now THAT would have made it a match of the century then
I agree with you 100% percent....because everytime a ball rejected out of a pocket....not because it was missed by the shooter...but because of the design of the pocket....changes something in the match. When players can't really open up their stroke 100%....I honestly don't think you're getting the best game that both players have to offer
With all due respect BB how can we not bring up the total disrespect he showed for shane and the fans that paid good money to watch this event live. If you dont think that had an effect on the outcome your kidding yourself. There are a couple of things that cant be debated. One, Earl is a champion pool player. Two Earl beat shane a race to 100 even on a 5x10. Short of that my friend the rest is up for debate. Ok also the rules were agreed upon by both parties before the match began. Shane was well aware that the tables and rules favored Earl far more that they ever would for him. None of this is reason enough for anyone to disrespect his opponent and fans like that. We cant just act like it didnt happen or theres an excuse for it. Im sorry thats just no excuse for this type of behavior. Im a big fan of Earls abilities on the table but sadly i guess he has been doing this for such a long time that its just expected now. I just dont ever remember it being as bad as its been the last 5 years or so. Just my humble 2 cents.
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