team-mates that tell you how to play

What is your skill level? Remember that if a teammate is giving you advice they are trying to help you. Also remember that at the end of the day it is your choice what shot you play. You are not obligated to play the shot they suggest.

I will say that as a captain I have had frustration with some players. For example, I have a SL3 on my team. He is playing 9ball and has 7,8,9 remaining and has BIH. He gets down to shoot and lines up a shot that will not give him position to get out. I call timeout and he is annoyed because I interrupted him. I tell him that using the timeout on BIH was the perfect time to use it. I explained the shot he should take and he chose to go with his original play. He failed to get out and lost the match. Afterwards he says I sharked him out of the shot and that is why he lost. WTF

If that's your name, he must of thought it was your game: TheNewSharkster...
 
I will never play on a Team that feels they need to advise me on moves, shots, or strategy.

If they actually believe I need their help, they really need to find another player.

You seem like the kinda guy who fantasizes he's with himself when he's with a woman.
 
It rubs me the wrong way, I don't tell anyone else how to play? 9 times out of ten if follow a team-mates advice, it doesn't turn out very well. We all see the table differently, let me play my own game...please.
I'm ready to quit this league bs.

If you guys play even maybe you should consider his advice. Not neccessarily take it.
 
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We play this one team and I think there are at least 3 brothers on the team. It's actually pretty funny to watch. Apparently they don't like each others advice and most times they either mess up or do what they wanted and mess up. So now you can hear them talking about that timeout all night. So one question is and if this happens pretty much every time with them. Why did they call timeout?
 
@ Straightpool 99.

SOME people don't want advice, SOME people do seek out advice and take it.

I'm pretty sure it has something to do with IQ
 
@ Straightpool 99.

SOME people don't want advice, SOME people do seek out advice and take it.

I'm pretty sure it has something to do with IQ


your right if the IQ of the person trying to give me advice is lower than mine along with their skill level then I really dont need their help or comments.:thumbup:

In some situations its ok. but most of the time its some big headed individual that thinks way to much of himself trying to tell everyone else how he would play it, when he cant play even with half the team.
 
your right if the IQ of the person trying to give me advice is lower than mine along with their skill level then I really dont need their help or comments.:thumbup:

In some situations its ok. but most of the time its some big headed individual that thinks way to much of himself trying to tell everyone else how he would play it, when he cant play even with half the team.

Random people, I could see nitwits always offering their opinions, especially to women. For teams, if your senior skill level isn't the one doing the timeouts, there had better be a good reason. It's pretty rare that I don't see that happening, but typically it's for something simple. You must be a 7? :confused:
 
Random people, I could see nitwits always offering their opinions, especially to women. For teams, if your senior skill level isn't the one doing the timeouts, there had better be a good reason. It's pretty rare that I don't see that happening, but typically it's for something simple. You must be a 7? :confused:

I dot play APA anymore but when i did I floated between 6-7 in 8ball and 7-8 in 9ball in a fairly strong league.

These days I only play in a local league with no real sanction.
 
That's sad.

What a depressing thread. Almost all the posts read like most people hate the league they play in. From ignoring teammates, to putting on headphones. Dealing with ego's, why even play on a team like that. This is supposed to be fun, WTF is wrong with people? I think it's the APA, they suck. Get a team of people that compliment one another, that like to play together. Simple to do, shoot pool and see if your on the same page and then get a team. 5,6,7,8,... Bullshit. If you got a better team, that's what you want. If you get crushed by somebody, you suck try harder be better. Someone on here said the worst day of pool is still better than......Shit, I forget. You know what I mean.
 
On my league team, there is a guy who plays alright (APA 7 in 9-ball), but will sometimes make poor decisions and shoot shots the wrong way. He'll get frustrated and blame his stroke or his aim, but more often than not, he's simply trying to do too much.
I try to give him advice, but he doesn't listen as he feels like I'm trying to exert my superiority over him or whatever, so I usually just let him do his thing, which is tough because his mistakes affect the whole team.

My suggestion, if you have a good player giving you advice, be grateful, accept it and try it out. Even if it doesn't work the first time, that doesn't mean it's bad advice, it just means you have a shot that you need to work on. There's no faster way to improvement than learning patterns and shots from better players and incorporating them into your game.
 
What a depressing thread. Almost all the posts read like most people hate the league they play in. From ignoring teammates, to putting on headphones. Dealing with ego's, why even play on a team like that. This is supposed to be fun, WTF is wrong with people? I think it's the APA, they suck. Get a team of people that compliment one another, that like to play together. Simple to do, shoot pool and see if your on the same page and then get a team. 5,6,7,8,... Bullshit. If you got a better team, that's what you want. If you get crushed by somebody, you suck try harder be better. Someone on here said the worst day of pool is still better than......Shit, I forget. You know what I mean.

Dealing with egos is something unique to leagues? Hardly. Heck, I encourage any of my teammates to call a timeout on me, either to ask me what I plan on doing or to make suggestions and I've been maxed on my rating for a little while. APA isn't the problem, it's people with bad attitudes or that have conflicting personalities. Sorry you can't see that.
 
Dealing with egos is something unique to leagues? Hardly. Heck, I encourage any of my teammates to call a timeout on me, either to ask me what I plan on doing or to make suggestions and I've been maxed on my rating for a little while. APA isn't the problem, it's people with bad attitudes or that have conflicting personalities. Sorry you can't see that.

You are right, people are to blame for the most part. The APA is the rest. They take higher level players and make them play with lower level players in the name of "fairness".
The higher level players resent the lower level players and tell them how to play,OOOps...I mean Help them. And the lower level players find out that their only because teams need weaker players to round them out.. So know you have a team foundation built on resentment and pity. That is the APA's fault. Does anybody play with anybody before joining a team, seems like a lot of bad stories. You said you just bailed, what happened
 
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Gee Rufus how is it that you use my quote but don't use the entire post. So I'm really trying to understand what exactly your trying to accomplish here. Because it kind of makes me feel under attack. You care to clarify?

Black Cat :confused:

I just quoted what I felt were the points I wanted to comment on rather than copy your entire post.

Like I said I respect your opinion I just happen to disagree with you and I still don't think you should let it get under your skin. Some people will agree with you and some will disagree. Neither is right all the time as I see it. But that's my 2 cents. Be well.
 
You are right, people are to blame for the most part. The APA is the rest. They take higher level players and make them play with lower level players in the name of "fairness".
The higher level players resent the lower level players and tell them how to play,OOOps...I mean Help them. And the lower level players find out that their only because teams need weaker players to round them out.. So know you have a team foundation built on resentment and pity. That is the APA's fault. Does anybody play with anybody before joining a team, seems like a lot of bad stories. You said you just bailed, what happened

you might be a great guy to hang out with and play pool against, you might even be a pretty good player. but... your attitude you display here would make you a piss poor teamate.

its sad to say but i became a piss poor teamate while in vegas this year. i am the captain and i was calling timouts and tellig every body what to do every time i thought it necessary.

why did i do it ? because they needed it, or at least i thought they did. the 2 girls played great. the other 2 guys sucked.. i mean they sucked so bad they could suck the felt off the table. then i realized no amount of time outs could correct stupidity so i copped an attitude and said fvck it let them look stupid.

i got real serious out there . i got so serious i played the best i ever have i got so serious i was not having fun and was not a very good teamate. i will not make that mistake a 2nd time if we ever go to vegas again. during the regular session i never call timouts, i always wait for my teamates to ask for one.

the other day i was looking at the team pictures we had made in vegas and realized both guys had that deer in the headlights look on their faces and then it finally hit me. they both had that look all week in vegas . guess some people fold under pressure and my calling timouts pretty often added to their pressure.
 
We have a 7 player team, you only need 4 players. I'm a middle of the pack player on this team. The worst player is the Captain's wife.
When we played last week, after the match was in hand, my team-mate told me okay do what ever you want now?
But when we play heads up, he's racking more than I am.
League is only popular with ex-pat's in the RP, from what I've seen. Pinoy's play for money.
 
You know it's threads like these that really get under my skin. It really pisses me off when you have people who just don't want to take advice. When your on a team everyone's actions effect everyone else's chances of success. The best player on the team should be the coach. They have reached the level that they have for a reason.

Players in all sports at all levels have coaches. You may not be able to execute the shot or complete the pattern, you have to make that decision before you take the first shot. The least that you owe your teammates is courtesy of listening then making the choice of going with your way or the coaches suggestion.

You Win as a Team, and sadly Loose as a Team!!!! Make a choice!!



This is exactly as it should be when playing on a TEAM. Any less and you are not a TEAM player and should not be on the TEAM.
 
If, and only if, the person telling you how to play is a worse player than you then ask him if he wants to play for some cash after the league is over for the night.

One of few reasons I can think of to join a league is to hustle some of the bangers for some cash. Don't be offended by the idiots, profit from them.
 
You know it's threads like these that really get under my skin. It really pisses me off when you have people who just don't want to take advice. When your on a team everyone's actions effect everyone else's chances of success. The best player on the team should be the coach. They have reached the level that they have for a reason.

Players in all sports at all levels have coaches. You may not be able to execute the shot or complete the pattern, you have to make that decision before you take the first shot. The least that you owe your teammates is courtesy of listening then making the choice of going with your way or the coaches suggestion.

You Win as a Team, and sadly Loose as a Team!!!! Make a choice!!



This is exactly as it should be when playing on a TEAM. Any less and you are not a TEAM player and should not be on the TEAM.

You know Moose,

kept hearing there is no I in team. There is a me though.

A few months ago, our team had an opportunity to make it to our City Championships. In the final game, our five had her opponents eight ball trapped. The only way we could lose was to give ball in hand. She started to play a poorly thought out shot. Stopped her and explained the situation. Told her not to try to run out as it was the wrong thing to do. Keep playing safe till she could finally make her last ball safely and shoot the eight to win. Sat down. She promptly began to run out. As you might expect, she scratched, lost the game and with that OUR opportunity to go to City's. Asked her why she played to run out? She hated to play safe and wanted to win by the run out.

Not sure which is worse. People who refuse help or people who listen and then do whatever it is they originally intended to do anyway. League pool is a team sport (game). Team play requires players to do what is best for the team. If you chose not to accept that idea, don't play team pool. Regardless of who is sanctioning play.

Lyn
 
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