bruin70 said:barouty is a fine 14.1 player and i love his patterns, but he is simply not "world-class".
Cornerman said:When the original World Team competition took place in the early 90's 1993?), Team USA with powerhouse names of the time didn't make it out of their bracket (North America Region) losing to Team Puerto Rico. This was probably the wakeup call that the "rest of the world" wasn't rolling over anymore.
Team Philippines easily won the entire event, as Team Puerto Rico was their only challenge at the time. Today, things would be different, but Team Philippines would be favored, IMO.
BTW, IIRC, Team Puerto Rico had names like Mike Lebron, Frankie Hernandez, Tony Robles, and Marco Marquez, guys that really don't exactly live in Puerto Rico. Believe it or not, Marquez was their weak link!!! Marco Marquez? The weak link??? That's strong.
Team Philippines had Efren, Parica, Franciso, Leonard Andam, and Rudolpho Luat. No weak links here, as all have won major open titles in the U.S.
Fred
Nostroke said:Marco Marquez on team Puerto Rico? I always thought he was Mexican-no?
bruin70 said:i was going to post this very thing. didn't marquez hang with some other mexican player in chicago?
crosseyedjoe said:Team USA - johnny archer, kim davenport, nick varner, mike lebron, mike sigel
I already gave this year's US Open and KOTH as evidence. Just look at the first four players on Team Philippines...Reyes, Busta, Manalo, and Alex. Each one of them can consistently beat ALL the players from Team America. I don't think too many people would argue with that statement.
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juegabillar said:Fred the PR Team that beat the US was composed of Frankie Hernandez, Tony Robles, Mike Lebron, Efran "Evangelista" Morales and Jose Robles (no relation to Tony). The last two players in this list being from the Island of Puerto Rico, and the best 9 ballers of that time. Marco Marquez is not Puerto Rican and has never been a part of Team Puerto Rico. Other Team Puerto Rico members were Alan Rolon, and Julio Aquino. Alan being from Puerto Rico also and Julio currently living in the U.S.A. (Check his name at the Florida Pro Tour's ranking).
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We (Puerto Rico) could easily form another team and they wouldn't necessarily have to be Puerto Ricans living in the U.S.A.
Just ask Archer, Gabe Owen, Mike Davis, Corey Deuel, Tony Robles, Frankie Hernandez, Rob Saez, whom all have lost (except Archer) in tournaments celebrated in Puerto Rico. We only consider 2 players in Puerto Rico as competent Pro's, whom could very easily be competing in the U.S. but have elected to stay in our Island. All our other players could give a hell of a time to any of the current U.S. Players.
Tbeaux said:Something I noticed looking through major tournaments results from the past year is that if there are only two or three Filipinos in the competition they ARE beatable. When there are four or more then it starts to become a given that two at least finish in the top three. When first place is BIG BUCKS they manage to sweep.
Terry
igme said:Who do you think will win at this match-up using the format of the Mosconi Cup? Let's say that Team America is composed of the current Mosconi cup players:
Johnny Archer
Rodney Morris
Earl Strickland
Shawn Putnam
Jeremy Jones
Charlie Williams
and Team Philippines will be made up of:
Efren Reyes
Francisco Bustamante
Marlon Manalo
Alex Pagulayan
Santos Sambajon
Jose Parica
Any thoughts?
jwilliams said:I think if you'd replace Charlie Williams and Shawn Putnam and Jeremy Jones with SVB and Corey Deuel and John Schmidt...THEN you have a match! I have to admit though that I think a lot of it will depend on whether or not Earl shows up with his 'A' game.
pro9dg said:Hello Harold
Team America, as I am sure you will recall, were ousted from the tournament by your team before the finale. This meant that the four semi finalists at The Riviera in Las Vegas were Team Philippines, Team Puerto Rica, Team Germany and Team Ireland.
I was the Team Ireland coach and to our utter amazement we beat your Team Puerto Rica. We played Team Philippines in the final - Efren, Django, Parica, Luat and Andam. At the end of the first 20 minute segment we were ahead 4-3. Then they broke for commercials, trick shots and an instructional slot. When we eventually resumed play our captain scratched from the break and we lost the match 7-4.
As the tournament was sort of double elimination your team beat Germany and faced Ireland for the 2nd place playoff. The match was pretty close until late in the game PR took a two rack lead. Then captain Mike Lebron got smart. There was a 30second shot clock in operation and he used the maximum time to shoot his shots and he ran the clock out for a revenge victory.
I still have most of the matches taped.
The first place prize was US$50,000 with the other three teams sharing a further US$50k. I don't know if Don Mackey paid out to everybody. But after a ten month wait for our money I managed to get a banker's draft for 17 Grand from him.
Happy Days
igme said:Who do you think will win at this match-up using the format of the Mosconi Cup? Let's say that Team America is composed of the current Mosconi cup players:
Johnny Archer
Rodney Morris
Earl Strickland
Shawn Putnam
Jeremy Jones
Charlie Williams
and Team Philippines will be made up of:
Efren Reyes
Francisco Bustamante
Marlon Manalo
Alex Pagulayan
Santos Sambajon
Jose Parica
Any thoughts?
I agree with you. I see 2 on the US team that should be replaced and it would make for a better match with the Philippines.....billiardspro said:change a couple of players for the usa and you might have a match otherwise the philippines win that match all day