The best 9 months of my life

How?

genomachino said:
I know how to rate players being on the road myself for years and being active in tournaments.

regardless of being a AA player or a master player it is tough for any player to make it on the road today.

It's really hard to rate someone or down rate them on what you hear .

She can play pretty sporty when in top gear.

merry Christmas Scott................
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She has been in STL for quite a while now and still asking C players for weight despite playing everyday at the pool hall.
 
genomachino said:
I know how to rate players being on the road myself for years and being active in tournaments.

regardless of being a AA player or a master player it is tough for any player to make it on the road today.

It's really hard to rate someone or down rate them on what you hear .

She can play pretty sporty when in top gear.

merry Christmas Scott................
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What players did 30 or 35 years ago is light years from what it is like today. I thought it was really easy to make money. I used to send it home because I didn't want all that money with me.

I made money every day it seemed, mostly bar tables. You walked in, put your quarter on the table or name on the board and you were in business no questions asked.

In fact they usually made it pretty clear that they were playing for a few dollars. There was little fun play once a game got started, and that game would go on all night with dozens of players in and out and no one really getting hurt. Guys who could hardly make a ball would still get up a few times and donate their $10.00 for the night.

There were no pool leagues back then, if a player wanted to get his rocks off he had to get up and play for a few bucks. It was easy money and this went on for years. Not at all a bad paying job hustling pool, when you consider the average working guy back then was raising a family on $125.00 a week. Not today though, forget about it.
 
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You need to manage your life on the road also........

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Based on everyone else's word that has played her or seen her play, 'B' rated seems pretty generous.
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Some of these places that she is playing I'm sure that she had no sleep. Probably not eating the right food. And not getting any exercise.

Things that I made sure were right when we were on the road.

If I don't get enough sleep you might think I'm a B player.

Being on the road about 15 years of my life I know how to take care of myself and I make sure that someone that is with me playing with my money has the best chance physically to get the cash.

There were a few times I didn't let her play because of not enough sleep.

But when I say what she is capable of I mean it and I know it.

I talked to her one time while she was down south and some guy was supposed to play that night. She had slept at the poolhall in a chair. That's not good rest. If that is happening there goes the correct food for sure or no food.

I've seen her play some pretty sporty pool on a diamond with some tight pockets. 9'
I'll never forget when she said. my game when I'm rested is way better than my tired game. But isn't it for everyone including myself.

She can't stay at the top game without, practice, eating right, and getting good rest. It's all part of the package.

This is what doomed most pool players even back in the hayday of pool hustling.

Get the dead nutz and can't take it off for all the cash you got because you didn't take care of the most important thing when on the road.

Your health and energy has to stay at a high level all the time.

People that are at home and sleep in their bed every night don't have a clue.

Some people that I went to Vegas with over the years would be zombies after 3 or 4 days. Couldn't hardly make a ball.

Need to keep up the energy. Not wanting to argue. I just really understand how it is because I've lived it.

Many have done it for a week or 2 but they need to try it for 6 months.

Then and only then will they respect the road and all the blind sides it will send your way.
 
genomachino said:
Some of these places that she is playing I'm sure that she had no sleep. Probably not eating the right food. And not getting any exercise.

Things that I made sure were right when we were on the road.

If I don't get enough sleep you might think I'm a B player.

Being on the road about 15 years of my life I know how to take care of myself and I make sure that someone that is with me playing with my money has the best chance physically to get the cash.

There were a few times I didn't let her play because of not enough sleep.

But when I say what she is capable of I mean it and I know it.

I talked to her one time while she was down south and some guy was supposed to play that night. She had slept at the poolhall in a chair. That's not good rest. If that is happening there goes the correct food for sure or no food.

I've seen her play some pretty sporty pool on a diamond with some tight pockets. 9'
I'll never forget when she said. my game when I'm rested is way better than my tired game. But isn't it for everyone including myself.

She can't stay at the top game without, practice, eating right, and getting good rest. It's all part of the package.

This is what doomed most pool players even back in the hayday of pool hustling.

Get the dead nutz and can't take it off for all the cash you got because you didn't take care of the most important thing when on the road.

Your health and energy has to stay at a high level all the time.

People that are at home and sleep in their bed every night don't have a clue.

Some people that I went to Vegas with over the years would be zombies after 3 or 4 days. Couldn't hardly make a ball.

Need to keep up the energy. Not wanting to argue. I just really understand how it is because I've lived it.

Many have done it for a week or 2 but they need to try it for 6 months.

Then and only then will they respect the road and all the blind sides it will send your way.
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My response shouldn't have elicited that big of a response. However that quote below should have.

bmsclayton said:
She has been in STL for quite a while now and still asking C players for weight despite playing everyday at the pool hall.
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genomachino said:
Some of these places that she is playing I'm sure that she had no sleep. Probably not eating the right food. And not getting any exercise.

Things that I made sure were right when we were on the road.

If I don't get enough sleep you might think I'm a B player.

Being on the road about 15 years of my life I know how to take care of myself and I make sure that someone that is with me playing with my money has the best chance physically to get the cash.

There were a few times I didn't let her play because of not enough sleep.

But when I say what she is capable of I mean it and I know it.

I talked to her one time while she was down south and some guy was supposed to play that night. She had slept at the poolhall in a chair. That's not good rest. If that is happening there goes the correct food for sure or no food.

I've seen her play some pretty sporty pool on a diamond with some tight pockets. 9'
I'll never forget when she said. my game when I'm rested is way better than my tired game. But isn't it for everyone including myself.

She can't stay at the top game without, practice, eating right, and getting good rest. It's all part of the package.

This is what doomed most pool players even back in the hayday of pool hustling.

Get the dead nutz and can't take it off for all the cash you got because you didn't take care of the most important thing when on the road.

Your health and energy has to stay at a high level all the time.

People that are at home and sleep in their bed every night don't have a clue.

Some people that I went to Vegas with over the years would be zombies after 3 or 4 days. Couldn't hardly make a ball.

Need to keep up the energy. Not wanting to argue. I just really understand how it is because I've lived it.

Many have done it for a week or 2 but they need to try it for 6 months.

Then and only then will they respect the road and all the blind sides it will send your way.
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Yeah, people who have worked hard all there lives to save up to , maybe buy a house, afford a once in a lifetime vac,,put kids thru school [not to mention raising them], barely making it, they have no clue.
 
Can someone please explain to me the absolute hatred oozing from so many post here of this player's choice for her life?

I don't get it? Is it wanting to run someone else's life or envy of it or what? I don't get it. I've read several threads about her and each contains so much hate, actual hate. Since when did pool players start dissing road players like this?

wtf? Did I miss something about this subject that I should know?


Jeff Livingston
 
chefjeff said:
Can someone please explain to me the absolute hatred oozing from so many post here of this player's choice for her life?

I don't get it? Is it wanting to run someone else's life or envy of it or what? I don't get it. I've read several threads about her and each contains so much hate, actual hate. Since when did pool players start dissing road players like this?

wtf? Did I miss something about this subject that I should know?


Jeff Livingston
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One may be a little jealousy and the second is, it is not a life choice. It is just something to do for now while you have the chance. As you get older you will have regrets.

But they are usually not what you choose to do. They are always what you didn't do when you had the chance and now it is too late. I remember the old TV show "Route 66". Who didn't dream back then of being one of those guys, at least for a little wile.

Some of us were never cut out to work in a factory and punch a clock. That does not make us failures, just different. I don't know where this quote came from but it is true.

"People often are not successes because they are too busy working". You need to be selfish with your time and what choices you take. That includes family, you only owe them so much. At a point your need to think about what it takes to make you happy before you leave this planet.

There was a great book years ago called "How to be your own best Friend"
I am not always big on self help books but this one will really make you think.
Some decisions need to be made before it is too late.

Just talk to many old persons and you will hear their regrets, what if's, what could have been as they just let life quickly pass by. I am pretty old and being a teen seems like only yesterday.

The book is still around and be gotten on amazon
http://www.amazon.com/How-Your-Own-Best-Friend/dp/0345342399
 
things never really change

"Freedom's just another name for nothing left to lose."

Being free comes with a high price tag. Like most things that are exciting and fun looking at somebody else doing it or looking back on it twenty years later, living hand to mouth on the road can be a hell of a lot more exciting than you want it to be at the time.

Rhea doesn't seem to have what it takes to live the road lifestyle most imagine today. Staying in nice hotels, eating good, nice ride, money in the bank. Funny thing, I can't think of a dozen known road players in the last hundred years that lived the life style AZB'ers imagine either. "Secure life" and "road player" are about as far apart as you can get!

I have never known anyone who made money gambling that had a gambler's mentality. The gamblers that make money make it off of other people's willingness to gamble. The winners reduce the gamble to as little as possible and they do this all of the time. No weak moments, no unnecessary risks. It doesn't sound very exciting and it isn't. If you love the risks involved chasing a big score you need a day job and to gamble within your means as a hobby.

You have to know yourself and you have to know other people. You also have to be realistic. Challenging yourself is something every competitor loves and every winning gambler hates!

I suspect that things haven't really changed all that much from fifty years or so ago. The big difference is that we look at fifty years ago through rose colored glasses.

Rhea isn't likely to make it on the road. That puts her in the same boat as over 99.99% of other people who think they can make a living gambling. Poker offers the best chance of making money now. The people that aren't gambling make it off of the people that are the same way long term winning "gamblers" at pool have always operated.

Hu
 
ShootingArts said:
"Freedom's just another name for nothing left to lose."

Being free comes with a high price tag. Like most things that are exciting and fun looking at somebody else doing it or looking back on it twenty years later, living hand to mouth on the road can be a hell of a lot more exciting than you want it to be at the time.

Rhea doesn't seem to have what it takes to live the road lifestyle most imagine today. Staying in nice hotels, eating good, nice ride, money in the bank. Funny thing, I can't think of a dozen known road players in the last hundred years that lived the life style AZB'ers imagine either. "Secure life" and "road player" are about as far apart as you can get!

I have never known anyone who made money gambling that had a gambler's mentality. The gamblers that make money make it off of other people's willingness to gamble. The winners reduce the gamble to as little as possible and they do this all of the time. No weak moments, no unnecessary risks. It doesn't sound very exciting and it isn't. If you love the risks involved chasing a big score you need a day job and to gamble within your means as a hobby.

You have to know yourself and you have to know other people. You also have to be realistic. Challenging yourself is something every competitor loves and every winning gambler hates!

I suspect that things haven't really changed all that much from fifty years or so ago. The big difference is that we look at fifty years ago through rose colored glasses.

Rhea isn't likely to make it on the road. That puts her in the same boat as over 99.99% of other people who think they can make a living gambling. Poker offers the best chance of making money now. The people that aren't gambling make it off of the people that are the same way long term winning "gamblers" at pool have always operated.

Hu
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Super post^^^^^
 
I'm not hating on her Jeff...she can do whatever she pleases. I'm just saying it's a pipe dream that she's an A (let alone a AA) player, no matter where or how you derive that rating.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

chefjeff said:
Can someone please explain to me the absolute hatred oozing from so many post here of this player's choice for her life?

I don't get it? Is it wanting to run someone else's life or envy of it or what? I don't get it. I've read several threads about her and each contains so much hate, actual hate. Since when did pool players start dissing road players like this?

wtf? Did I miss something about this subject that I should know?


Jeff Livingston
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When bar tables were 25 cents a game, you could win some cash playing, at least in bars, but now at a buck a game, the table always gets the cash, that is not even counting the price of drinks now. Everything in this world has changed, and not all for the better. Making it on the road would be extremely tough, and for a female, with all the crap they would have to deal with, probably ten times as tough.
At least Rhea, won't have to look back someday, and say what if. She tried, and may try again, her life, her dream.
 
Scott Lee said:
I'm not hating on her Jeff...she can do whatever she pleases. I'm just saying it's a pipe dream that she's an A (let alone a AA) player, no matter where or how you derive that rating.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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I wasn't picking on any particular post, just the gist of these threads about Rhea's road trip.

You live on the road quite a bit so anything you say about it has merit, imho.

Thanks for the response,

Jeff Livingston
 
chefjeff said:
Can someone please explain to me the absolute hatred oozing from so many post here of this player's choice for her life?

I don't get it? Is it wanting to run someone else's life or envy of it or what? I don't get it. I've read several threads about her and each contains so much hate, actual hate. Since when did pool players start dissing road players like this?

wtf? Did I miss something about this subject that I should know?


Jeff Livingston
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No hate here. Just would be a very boring book imho. :wink:
 
chefjeff said:
Can someone please explain to me the absolute hatred oozing from so many post here of this player's choice for her life?

I don't get it? Is it wanting to run someone else's life or envy of it or what? I don't get it. I've read several threads about her and each contains so much hate, actual hate. Since when did pool players start dissing road players like this?

wtf? Did I miss something about this subject that I should know?


Jeff Livingston
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when they ask for help & then don't take it, because there is another agenda.

if you had met Rhea, and also extended opportunities, to no avail - then we might not be having this conversation, Jeff. she's 40ish; a "grown-ass adult" as we say in my house.

i understand it for what it is: Rhea has her reasons for her decisions in her life, under the guise of hustling pool & posting in a man's game.
i hope she finds her solice.
 
irock said:
When bar tables were 25 cents a game, you could win some cash playing, at least in bars, but now at a buck a game, the table always gets the cash, that is not even counting the price of drinks now. Everything in this world has changed, and not all for the better. Making it on the road would be extremely tough, and for a female, with all the crap they would have to deal with, probably ten times as tough.
At least Rhea, won't have to look back someday, and say what if. She tried, and may try again, her life, her dream.
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It was even more dynamic then that. Bar tables were a new thing and here you had hard core pool room players venturing out. We were in a sea of novice players and they were amazingly gambling.

Not for a lot, but for the economics of the day if you ground out $40.00 you made a good score and that was pretty easy. Minimum wage was $1.60 an hour and guys with good jobs made $24.00 a day before taxes. Gas was cheap and Motel 6 actually was $6.00 a night.

Today there are a zillion pretty good players and they are a lot more street smart. You are not going out there and fooling anyone anymore. Not to mention you would be lucky to win today any more then you did 40 years ago.
 
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Macguy, those were the days, my buddy and I would fill up my car with gas for $6, put a cooler of ice in the trunk, full of little Miller beers, a few bottles of Any Green Springs wine, pick up a couple good looking young girls, and we were set for the night. The world was a lot simpler then, and a lot more fun.
 
But I am actively seeking employment so I can save up, improve, then try again
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What happened to the Care Home that you were talking about in the last Thread that you started.

To me, when an able bodied person is continually out of work, it comes down to one thing most of the time.

They don't really want to work. There is a huge difference between actually working and just talking about it.

And if what the other poster from St. Louis is correct that you are still trying to make games with C Players if they give you weight.

I am far from being knowledgeable re gambling and weight playing pool, but, getting weight from a C Player is neither Hustling nor Gambling.

If that is basically, the gist of your Road Diary, I can't see it being very entertaining without a lot of artistic license involved.
 
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