The hip-hop young crowd
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In my bar hip hop is about 60% of whats played. The kicker is when some guy walks into the bar, goes right to the juke box and plays $5 worth of Tejano music. Its so damn funny to see people's reactions. I've seen half the bar clear out with one of those playlists. I'm not sure whether its the music itself or the fact that all the drunk people start yelling and yipping and hooting, which I think is hilarious.
alstl said:
I've written off such a place as non-existant.
Walt Frazier
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SteelyDan Rules
Babylon Sisters
Peg
Black Cow(used as hip hop sample)
Deacon Blues
Green Earings
Hey Nineteen
Aja
'Nuff Said!
Babylon Sisters
Peg
Black Cow(used as hip hop sample)
Deacon Blues
Green Earings
Hey Nineteen
Aja
'Nuff Said!
I think the attire is silly and ridiculous but to generalize the generation as being beneath previous generations based on their style is ignorant and idiotic. Where would we be if we sqelched the styles of the 50's, 60's and 70's.
I remember my dad giving me all kinds of hell for wearing Dock Martens and flannel shirts, whoopty freaking doo, some of you guys are excessively sensitive to the people that aren't just like you. Its not criminal activity and to be quite honest I'd rather have my kids see a hairy ass or a thong hanging out than see their father spending time and energy complaining about any and every shortcoming of our society.
Thats the real problem. When you start lacking tolerence and start assuming and generalizing the quality of person based on appearence you put a stranglehold on society and do yourself and many others a great injustice by b1tching and moaning about asthetics vs. giving a damn about real issues that can directly affect your life.
I'd much rather see a poolhall/hangout that caterers to the younger hip hop crowd than see these kids roaming the streets or the interwebs with nothing to do bored out of their minds desperate for entertainment. Some of you guys need to stop and look yourselves in the mirror and starting seeing the forrest from the trees.
I remember my dad giving me all kinds of hell for wearing Dock Martens and flannel shirts, whoopty freaking doo, some of you guys are excessively sensitive to the people that aren't just like you. Its not criminal activity and to be quite honest I'd rather have my kids see a hairy ass or a thong hanging out than see their father spending time and energy complaining about any and every shortcoming of our society.
Thats the real problem. When you start lacking tolerence and start assuming and generalizing the quality of person based on appearence you put a stranglehold on society and do yourself and many others a great injustice by b1tching and moaning about asthetics vs. giving a damn about real issues that can directly affect your life.
I'd much rather see a poolhall/hangout that caterers to the younger hip hop crowd than see these kids roaming the streets or the interwebs with nothing to do bored out of their minds desperate for entertainment. Some of you guys need to stop and look yourselves in the mirror and starting seeing the forrest from the trees.
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Bishop said:
Wearing a clown outfit is silly and ridiculous. Exposing your undergarments is lewd and obscene conduct.
All societies have guidelines, and its just in these past few years that people are more concerned with being politically correct than they are with really telling it like it is.
We are in fact all the same. So in that sense, is it then ok to walk around naked in public? NO? Then how about just with our pants around our ankles, is that acceptable? or for you is it your knees?
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So you agree it is a shortcoming in our society. That's a start. So you would rather your kids see a hairy ass than tell them its wrong and these people are inconsiderate of others. Interesting if you think thats complaining. I think its teaching my kids good moral values.
Does tolerance have boundaries for you? Each generation, if allowed to will push those boundaries until it becomes the norm. I choose to believe my kids shouldn't be exposed to the bad language or half dressed people.
Yep, and I believe fires should be put out when they are merely a forgotten campfire, not when they consume a forest.
I think every generation has stupid fads and fasions that are rediculous, however people still wear/do them and then they grow up. Example:
Do you remember JNCO jeans? Those rediculously overpriced pants were ginormous and always in the way. Every kid I knew wore em (including me). They even got up to 50" leg holes! Now I wouldn't come near them because I am an adult. Parachute pants? Dear god.
"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things"
I guess what I'm trying to say is they'll grow out of it.
Do you remember JNCO jeans? Those rediculously overpriced pants were ginormous and always in the way. Every kid I knew wore em (including me). They even got up to 50" leg holes! Now I wouldn't come near them because I am an adult. Parachute pants? Dear god.
"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things"
I guess what I'm trying to say is they'll grow out of it.
So everytime I see a womens bra strap I should go ape shit. Or better yet if I see cleavage I should call that exposing or obscene, because thats far more exposure than saggy pants. Better yet everytime a women bust her yobe out for breastfeeding its considered lewd? There are far worse attires out there worn by much older more mature adults that reveil far more. Lets face it you stereotyped for no reason just because you don't like the way they look. That puts you pretty low on the totem pole buddy.3andstop said:
Basically kids have turned boxer shorts into part of the attire vs. it being underwear, its not my fault that you can't see the difference. People wear bathing suits and boxer shorts to the mall, walmart and sometimes even dinner. I don't always like it but its not something that would prompt me to hurl criminal remarks about.
I have no problems pointing out to my kids that dressing a certain way is silly and that I don't condone it but its irresponsible of me to tell them that because those kids dress that way we should assume they are criminals or wrong do'ers.
I can see you simply don't want to admit understanding the difference between faddish and obscene. Between fashion and exposing underwear, between acceptable song lyrics and blaring profanities.
Who cares about ear rings. Can I hang one off my "you know what" and walk around exposing it in public? Would that be acceptable? I'm asking. Where do you draw the line, ankles, knees or anything goes?
If I use the "F" word or "CAP" the moderators A$$ here on the forum I'll even get thrown off. LOL ... you don't have to go very far to see there are moral values.
Why would they consider this language unacceptable but you all seem to feel its just kids, and its ok? That was not a rhetorical question. Why would the moderators at this, or any other PUBLIC forum stress acceptable language if it simply didn't matter?
The difference between blaring X rated language, death threats, and public indecent exposure is far different than wearing ear rings.
And heres what I think, you all know it too, its just fashionable to be politically correct, isn't it?
Who cares about ear rings. Can I hang one off my "you know what" and walk around exposing it in public? Would that be acceptable? I'm asking. Where do you draw the line, ankles, knees or anything goes?
If I use the "F" word or "CAP" the moderators A$$ here on the forum I'll even get thrown off. LOL ... you don't have to go very far to see there are moral values.
Why would they consider this language unacceptable but you all seem to feel its just kids, and its ok? That was not a rhetorical question. Why would the moderators at this, or any other PUBLIC forum stress acceptable language if it simply didn't matter?
The difference between blaring X rated language, death threats, and public indecent exposure is far different than wearing ear rings.
And heres what I think, you all know it too, its just fashionable to be politically correct, isn't it?
In the 1970's I wore flare jeans, I had long feathered hair, and I smoked a lot of weed. I listened to Led Zeppelin - Lynyrd Skynyrd - Ted Nugent- Peter Frampton - that type of stuff - and my mom said it was all "noise".
In the 1980's my hair got a little longer and little wilder. My attire was mostly old raggy jeans, a concert t-shirt, and beat up high tops and I switched from weed to cocaine. In a drunken stupor, I got a tattoo on my my right arm of a large breasted blonde. My Korean wife didn't like the tattoo at all. She never did have a sense of humor.
During that period of time, my musical tastes changed somewhat, but I was till into rock music mostly and my Mom still thought it was noise.
When I entered the military, my hair got shorter, my habits needed to go, but I dressed pretty much the same when I was out of uniform. Cutting my hair and placing me in a different wrapper didn't change me much.
In the 1990's I was police officer, and I was judged MORE for wearing that uniform than I was judged for smoking pot back in the 1970's. When I worked vice, I grew out my hair and my beard, and many of my co-workers didn't recognize me at all. Same guy, different style.
These days my hair is much shorter than it was 30 years ago. I don't own a pair of jeans (that fit). I wear mostly dress slacks, and nice shirts. I don't smoke pot or or do drugs, nor do I drink. I listen to a wide variety of music, to include Opera, Classical, Country, Rock, Christian, 80's rock, Rap, Soul, Grunge, Gospel, etc. I know a lot more now than I did then, but I'm still in the same skin.
I never want to grow into the kind of person that would have judged me in any of those stages of my life. We all grow, evolve, and we become different people. It's fun to look back an laugh at our clothes, our hair, the styles, etc. I have kids in the 15-20 year old age group, they do the laughing for me sometimes. Someday they will laugh at themselves, or my grandkids will return the favor. It's called life.
In the 1980's my hair got a little longer and little wilder. My attire was mostly old raggy jeans, a concert t-shirt, and beat up high tops and I switched from weed to cocaine. In a drunken stupor, I got a tattoo on my my right arm of a large breasted blonde. My Korean wife didn't like the tattoo at all. She never did have a sense of humor.
During that period of time, my musical tastes changed somewhat, but I was till into rock music mostly and my Mom still thought it was noise. When I entered the military, my hair got shorter, my habits needed to go, but I dressed pretty much the same when I was out of uniform. Cutting my hair and placing me in a different wrapper didn't change me much.
In the 1990's I was police officer, and I was judged MORE for wearing that uniform than I was judged for smoking pot back in the 1970's. When I worked vice, I grew out my hair and my beard, and many of my co-workers didn't recognize me at all. Same guy, different style.
These days my hair is much shorter than it was 30 years ago. I don't own a pair of jeans (that fit). I wear mostly dress slacks, and nice shirts. I don't smoke pot or or do drugs, nor do I drink. I listen to a wide variety of music, to include Opera, Classical, Country, Rock, Christian, 80's rock, Rap, Soul, Grunge, Gospel, etc. I know a lot more now than I did then, but I'm still in the same skin.
I never want to grow into the kind of person that would have judged me in any of those stages of my life. We all grow, evolve, and we become different people. It's fun to look back an laugh at our clothes, our hair, the styles, etc. I have kids in the 15-20 year old age group, they do the laughing for me sometimes. Someday they will laugh at themselves, or my grandkids will return the favor. It's called life.
poolnut
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There is quite a difference in "tolerating" the hip hop crowd, and supporting the content of their music, and the fact that more of their underwear shows than the clothing that is suppose to be covering it up.
I will not stand to be told that I am intolerant because I don't accept these things. Bomber, you bring up the ear ring issue. Your point is that society is taking gradual steps and making more things acceptable, right?
So, from what I see, we've gone from ear rings, to the "F" word as every other lyric of song content. We've gone from leather jackets to looking at the sh*t stains in underwear... at this rate.. where does it stop? I am not intolerable of the sound of this music. It is the content, and and the fact that underwear is called UNDERwear for a reason.
I will not stand to be told that I am intolerant because I don't accept these things. Bomber, you bring up the ear ring issue. Your point is that society is taking gradual steps and making more things acceptable, right?
So, from what I see, we've gone from ear rings, to the "F" word as every other lyric of song content. We've gone from leather jackets to looking at the sh*t stains in underwear... at this rate.. where does it stop? I am not intolerable of the sound of this music. It is the content, and and the fact that underwear is called UNDERwear for a reason.
What you are saying is that saggy pants are more profane than bra straps and cleavage. Because not once in my life have I ever seen a kid with baggy pants have his penis out. I have never once seen a butt crack from a saggy panted kid. But nearly daily I see womens buttcracks from wearing too tight a pair of jeans....and everyday I see cleavage and extremely low neck and back lines along with short skirts and shorts, not just from the younger generation either. Its part of whats accepted now and its not illegal.3andstop said:
I draw the line at penis, vagina and nipple exposure. You can't call boxers exposure because not only are they advertised via the media and perfectly acceptable to the FCC but there are far more revealing outfits from people you consider dressed appropriately.....your peers.
I suppose you're wanting a perfect little double standard and I'm calling you on your excessively judgemental and stereotypical attitude because you're wrong. Now don't crap yourself because I'm not saying you are wrong to have an opinion you're just wrong to state that boxer shorts are liken to exposure and considered lewd, because if that was true 80 or so percent of the women out in public right now should be arrested. You're also wrong to assume that these people are criminals because of the way they dress.
There are laws for loud lyrics but I'd rather see our police pursuing far more important matters than loud music.
Just remember you're only skin color away from saying black people are criminals because they are black. You're teetering the fine line of your arguement and if it were about anything other than clothing you might be considered a racist, you're already a bigot and for no good reason other than you don't like the way they look.
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poolnut
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Bishop said:
There are 10,000 people in the town I currently live in, not including the college. Probably 20 of them are black. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with skin color. The hip hop crowd here is white. I don't like the music or their choice of clothing just the same. You are the one who is making this a racial issue.
Actually you aren't understanding what I wrote. I'm using it as a corelation to make a point about his bigotry, I'm not specifically making it about race. I was wondering how long before someone would accuse me of making it about race. Again I'm not making this about race I was using it as an example.poolnut said: