The Jeanette Lee Calcutta Scandal

My take on it.

Here is my feeling on Calcuttas when I run an event

1. It is the players responsibility if they would like to buy 1/2 to find and pay the buyer before the draw is posted. How simple is that. All it would take in a big room is to walk up to the person running the event and ask them to point out the person that bought you.

Also I know many top players that never get involved in the calcutta so no one can say it should have been understood that a player of that level would buy themselves.

Here is my second problem with JL in this situation and you can all stick up for her if you want but why would I give anyone in the world the benefit of the doubt that they would pay me the 1/2 if they got knocked out early in this same situation. I'm sure she wouldn't be hunting for him then! Does anyone here really think that if she was eliminated in the second round she would have found him and paid the 1/2?

Anyway I agree calcutta at your own risk and what she did in the end was not in the wrong becuase like people have said it's her option to quit. It showed very little class and she in no way made an agreement on the calcutta earlier and probably at the point she was in the calcutta money made up her mind.

I would expect more from a World Class player that's for sure.
 
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srs314 said:
It showed very little class and she in no way made an agreement on the calcutta earlier and probably at the point she was in the calcutta money made up her mind.
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When williebetmore posted what JL said he stated that she told the tournament director earlier that she wanted to buy back.
 
Sweet Marissa said:
There is no mention of that in the TD's version.
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This is all im saying, this is from JL posted by williebetmore. I dont care either way and am just staing that there was supposedly an agreement made earlier unlike what srs314 said.

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As the first match began, she did remember the Calcutta, but could NOT initially remember what the buyer looked like (she is approached by a LOT of people at every pool event she attends). She then asked Brian Gregg to find the buyer and let him know that she would take half of herself. Brian told her that he DID find the buyer, and that the buyer WAS in agreement.

Where is the TD's version, I have not seen it yet.
 
What does it matter

What does it matter how much is in the calcutta, if you where going to play your best then play your best, so if she was going to take a stake in her own ability, she would have done so. ie: if you play a set with someone and don't both post up then you are playing for owesies. No cash in hand no cash later, but to leave a set or tourny early is an Earl Strickland move, is that what Mrs Lee wants to be compared to, I think not.
On the flip side no reason to be rude, if a top flight pro wants half let them invest because as posted earlier "50% of something is better than 100% of nothing."

My jadded two cents
Kennan
 
stick8 said:
you see what happens when you let a women into a mans world!!!!!!:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
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BOO!!! she, Corr, Fisher ect. can beat any player in the world on any given day.

Post up and play any of them even,
then will see how much of a MAN YOU ARE. :p


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Kennan
 
In our events that we run your calcutta arangements must me made even before the draw is posted so a player can't look to see if they have a weak draw before they buy.

I don't know how this one was run but to me it's the players responsibility to seek out the buyer and get 1/2 of themselves.

If what the poster said was true he would have been very easy to find.

I'm not here to decide which version is the truth but if the post that started this thread is accurate she was out of line in my opinion.
 
J$Cincy said:
this is an awful long thread over $70.
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Maybe, but a teacher taught me a lesson in school that is one of the ones that has ALWAYS proved to be true.

Whenever someone says it isnt the money its the principle of the thing, bet your bottom dollar, its the money....

Ken
 
Ken_4fun said:
Whenever someone says it isnt the money its the principle of the thing, bet your bottom dollar, its the money....

Ken
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What are you saying about people and money?
 
off topic but I have always found just the opposite

woody_968 said:
And as with most jobs, easier payday means less pay. :smile:
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I have always found it just the opposite. The less someone worked the more they are paid. Always exceptions but I got paid a whole lot more for spending most of my day staring out the window than I got paid for working like a dog all day and coming home filthy and exhausted.

Once I started paying attention I have noticed it seems to be a general truth: The less you work the more you get paid!

Hu
 
Captain K. said:
BOO!!! she, Corr, Fisher ect. can beat any player in the world on any given day.

Post up and play any of them even,
then will see how much of a MAN YOU ARE. :p


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Kennan
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Your two cents are jadded. Any of the women you listed can start playing at 12:01 AM and play to 11:59 PM and play and you can bet even.

Now ... Post up and let's see how much of a MAN YOU ARE. If you would like I'm sure I can arrange six figures or more.
 
iba7467 said:
Any of the women you listed can start playing at 12:01 AM and play to 11:59 PM and play and you can bet even.

Now ... Post up and let's see how much of a MAN YOU ARE. If you would like I'm sure I can arrange six figures or more.
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I will post 4 figures but I agree with my pal Daniel.

Ken
 
iba7467 said:
Your two cents are jadded. Any of the women you listed can start playing at 12:01 AM and play to 11:59 PM and play and you can bet even.

Now ... Post up and let's see how much of a MAN YOU ARE. If you would like I'm sure I can arrange six figures or more.
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I was responding to the arrogant pig who stated that billiards is a mans world.
Originally Posted by stick8
you see what happens when you let a women into a mans world!!!!!!



For the record I have bet on many women players even some locally on the OB tour, verses many an overconfidant man who thinks women should be pregnant and cooking in the kitchen.
So if that is the side you want to line up on "thinking women are some how less than equals to men" then bring your self down as I had challenged ( stick8 ) to play a top flight womens pro player, and see where the "man" ends up.


I am in no way stating there are not more skilled or decorated mens pro or hustlers alike that can and have taken down many a top flight womens pro players, but to make a statement like "Originally Posted by stick8
you see what happens when you let a women into a mans world!!!!!!

is just being a jackass, long ears and all.

Maby he just posted that as a joke but we as a community in AZ need aid in shutting down these antiquated stereotypes, and get to promoting billiards in a positive way. :thumbup:


Kennan Keffer
not hiding behind just an avatar
 
This is all very simple to avoid. I played a tourney with a calcutta, when the bidding ended the T director said "player" do you want half? YES or NO end of story, next case.
 
now that hurts

Captain K. said:
I was responding to the arrogant pig who stated that billiards is a mans world.
Originally Posted by stick8
you see what happens when you let a women into a mans world!!!!!!



For the record I have bet on many women players even some locally on the OB tour, verses many an overconfidant man who thinks women should be pregnant and cooking in the kitchen.
So if that is the side you want to line up on "thinking women are some how less than equals to men" then bring your self down as I had challenged ( stick8 ) to play a top flight womens pro player, and see where the "man" ends up.


I am in no way stating there are not more skilled or decorated mens pro or hustlers alike that can and have taken down many a top flight womens pro players, but to make a statement like "Originally Posted by stick8
you see what happens when you let a women into a mans world!!!!!!

is just being a jackass, long ears and all.

Maby he just posted that as a joke but we as a community in AZ need aid in shutting down these antiquated stereotypes, and get to promoting billiards in a positive way. :thumbup:


Kennan Keffer
not hiding behind just an avatar
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come on captain k, get it off your chest!!! i just dont think women should be allowed in a mens tourny-- now many men you see in ladys????and yes i am smart enough to know ther are some women that can play.and am sure they can beat a old has been as myself, im now 70yr of age and just speaking my openion. just how i feel!!! STICK
 
It should have been dealt with at "probably"....

I'm "probably" going to buy my half???? WTF Either you are in or you are out. It can't be that $70.00 was such a huge bankroll that she couldn't swing it. What was the total value of the calcutta?

I'll never know what was said or what happened, but personally I wouldn't have taken probably for an answer. I would have pressed her at theat point and asked her if I had made a mistake buying her in the first place if her heart wasn't in the tourney. Maybe she would have broken the cue down then and we all would be spared the drama.

I'm chalking the whole thing up to Lady Problems. The whole situation is too weird to be anything but hormones. We're talking $70 bucks and an international pool star who is doing more than just pool related things over at ESPN...

If the tourney was held a week earlier or later, we wouldn't be hearing about it, because it wouldn't have happened...


Flame on



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