The real reason Mike Dechaine withdrew from the World Straight Pool

I saw that as well, but Shane's B-day is the 24th according to Wiki.

I wonder which is correct. I saw on FB where everybody was wishing him a Happy Birthday! I will change Wikipedia if we can find out the correct date. Sometimes people may use a false birthday on FB to avoid spam, et cetera, but who knows! :)
 
I wonder which is correct. I saw on FB where everybody was wishing him a Happy Birthday! I will change Wikipedia if we can find out the correct date. Sometimes people may use a false birthday on FB to avoid spam, et cetera, but who knows! :)

HaHah:thumbup: lol .... it's changed to 14th.

you're quick.
 
Would just like to say......

The pool/billiards world putting up with Charlie and Dragon Promotions........
 

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He should have played! Moving him around to a different group would have had little effect on his ability to do well in the tournament. If you want to be considered a champion, you need to find a way to overcome adversity in all it's various forms. That's about as simple as I can make it.

Everybody "wants" to be a champion! Only a select few become "true" champions because they let there ability do the talking!

So here is the question then, is MD a champion?? Some here "want" him to be one, but is he?

Everyone here knows I don't like Mike, and probably one of the very few that will tell him to his face! But, leaving all that aside, I ask a serious question that needs to be answered honestly! Is he a champion?

My opinion,,,, NO! Does he have the ability,,,, ABSOLUTELY!!!!! Will he become one??? Not like this he won't! MD is a great local player with championship "ability"! That's all there is to it! Don't make a big thing out of what I said,,, he's proven it to all of us! He is a "local" champion, like it or not, that's it!

Plus, he's a movie star now,,, he got no time for ball banging some stupid game he don't like;)

Mike, keep up the good work;)
 
Everybody "wants" to be a champion! Only a select few become "true" champions because they let there ability do the talking!

So here is the question then, is MD a champion?? Some here "want" him to be one, but is he?

Everyone here knows I don't like Mike, and probably one of the very few that will tell him to his face! But, leaving all that aside, I ask a serious question that needs to be answered honestly! Is he a champion?

My opinion,,,, NO! Does he have the ability,,,, ABSOLUTELY!!!!! Will he become one??? Not like this he won't! MD is a great local player with championship "ability"! That's all there is to it! Don't make a big thing out of what I said,,, he's proven it to all of us! He is a "local" champion, like it or not, that's it!

Plus, he's a movie star now,,, he got no time for ball banging some stupid game he don't like;)

Mike, keep up the good work;)

You are entitled to your opinion as am I so will respectfully disagree with you.

If a player wins a state tournament then they are a state champion, if a player wins a national tournament then they are a national champion. If they win a world championships then they are a world champion. Mike already has the state and national tournament under his belt which makes him a national champion at the very least.

There are not too many 'local champions' that have been ranked as the 2nd highest American male player by the WPA as Mike currently is.

Just my humble opinion.
 
Hmmm, a very rare event that needs to be noted. 'Twas. :sorry:

J

I thought about it when I was writing but decided to see if anybody would catch it. :grin-square:

Notice no comma before "but" in the sentence above. Do you know why? AzBilliards Gold Star of the Day for anyone who knows why. :)
 
I guess we can agree to disagree. He was told his seeding… for better or worse, he was told he's the 3 seed. Since he got 5th last year and only 3 who placed above him were returning, it's not that unreasonable. Regardless, if that's the seeding he was given, it shouldn't change. Especially when Charlie could no longer benefit from him doing well.

Based on this information from Cleary, the thought process that would have MD initially colluding with CW does not hold up. Any reasonable person would surmise that CW decided/agreed to back MD and indicated to MD that he was the number 3 seed. While MD might not have felt that he is number 3 based on the discipline(14.1), competitors involved and his own humility it is reasonable to think that (based on the points from Cleary) he could accept this seeding.

When CW moved him so far down the seeding list when he decided to enter without backing from him, he responded as any reasonable person would. It would seem to any reasonable person that, while seed number 3 may have been generous being moved to 15+ is clearly punitive and the realization would set in that the generosity of being seeded 3 was based on his being in partnership with the promoter and the subsequent action was meant to punish him. Any man with integrity would have withdrawn. Good on you MD.
 
I thought about it when I was writing but decided to see if anybody would catch it. :grin-square:

Notice no comma before "but" in the sentence above. Do you know why? AzBilliards Gold Star of the Day for anyone who knows why. :)

A comma should be placed before the word but only if but is at the beginning of an independent clause.

Notice no commas in the above sentence. :)

J
 
I thought about it when I was writing but decided to see if anybody would catch it. :grin-square:

Notice no comma before "but" in the sentence above. Do you know why? AzBilliards Gold Star of the Day for anyone who knows why. :)

I'm guessing it's because the words after "but" aren't a complete sentence, but I'm not a word scientist.

As for MD, if he's happy with his decision then who am I to say he should've done anything different?
 
Congrats on your escape from prison!

Never went to prison. I did get arrested once when working for some Italian guys collecting debts. I never once failed to collect the debt. The guy the arrest was over, refused to press charges.
 
A comma should be placed before the word but only if but is at the beginning of an independent clause.

Notice no commas in the above sentence. :)

J

Oh, man, you're good. I mean, you're really good. I am impressed! :)

AzBililards Gold Star goes to jimmyg. Well done, indeed!
 

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I'm guessing it's because the words after "but" aren't a complete sentence, but I'm not a word scientist.

As for MD, if he's happy with his decision then who am I to say he should've done anything different?

You got it right too. For that, you get the AzBilliards Silver Star Award for the Day. Congratulations! :)
 

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Never went to prison. I did get arrested once when working for some Italian guys collecting debts. I never once failed to collect the debt. The guy the arrest was over, refused to press charges.

That's super cool bro. Not that I believe a single word of the bullshit you typed, but still pretty damn cool.

Maybe JAM has a special star to give you for your awesome stories!
 
Why anyone would want to be part of this farce is beyond me.

By sponsoring and taking 50% of their winnings, Charlie is basically betting on players and manipulating the chances he was cashing out on them.

The single biggest issue with this is that Charlie has the control to bet and seed players and the 2 should be 100% exclusive of each other. If he wants to "bet" on players then he gets absolutely no input on the seeds. A player he is sponsoring going from 3 to well below that after he decides not to be sponsored by him shows a major lack of integrity.

Every player in this tournament should question the ethics of this setup.
 
By sponsoring and taking 50% of their winnings, Charlie is basically betting on players and manipulating the chances he was cashing out on them.

The single biggest issue with this is that Charlie has the control to bet and seed players and the 2 should be 100% exclusive of each other. If he wants to "bet" on players then he gets absolutely no input on the seeds. A player he is sponsoring going from 3 to well below that after he decides not to be sponsored by him shows a major lack of integrity.

Every player in this tournament should question the ethics of this setup.

Dechaine was still in the same round robin pool after the seeding change. I don't agree with Charlie taking 50% of his winnings but the solution to that is put yourself in the tournament. Pros "negotiating" behind the scenes for a better deal than everybody else isn't ethical either.
 
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