The STRONGEST SPOT to me is...

Bigkat said:
* The breaks + ball in hand afterwards. I know I'm just a lowly APA 8. But I would feel highly competitive with anybody outside of maybe 100 players in the world with this spot✔✔. Maybe I'm wrong though LOL
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Oh give yourself some credit. An APA 8 is one of the highest possible ratings from what I know. Be proud of yourself, I'm sure you're a fine player. Reminds me of what people call a humblebrag :)
 
Bigkat said:
THIS IS HOW I IMAGINE 1 GAME WITH "SAID" PERSON GOING!! My break. If I drop a ball and have a shot afterwards I'm about 50% chance to run out. Because of the gravity of the situation and the mere fact that all of eternity is riding on this one particular game LOL if I do not have a shot he will be in a severe predicament. I'm not saying that he will be 100% hidden but I can guarantee you that I will place him LONG on opposite sides and both balls locked to the rail. Good luck shooting off the rail and seeing only a portion of the top of the ball with no real chance of putting any English on it with any degree of certainty. This leads to my being back at the table with probably have decent shot. I probably ran 5 balls before I had to play safe and so I will finish this game!! ✔
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Well he's got it all figured out. The way he types it out it must be easy.
 
Bigkat said:
@pt09
I'm probably going to get 3/9 v. The Ghost
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If you are going to lose to the ghost by that much then there is no way you can out run this spot even with being allowed to play a safe.

If you can beat the ghost 9 to 3 then why don't we know who you are?
 
Bigkat said:
THIS IS HOW I IMAGINE 1 GAME WITH "SAID" PERSON GOING!! My break. If I drop a ball and have a shot afterwards I'm about 50% chance to run out. Because of the gravity of the situation and the mere fact that all of eternity is riding on this one particular game LOL if I do not have a shot he will be in a severe predicament. I'm not saying that he will be 100% hidden but I can guarantee you that I will place him LONG on opposite sides and both balls locked to the rail. Good luck shooting off the rail and seeing only a portion of the top of the ball with no real chance of putting any English on it with any degree of certainty. This leads to my being back at the table with probably have decent shot. I probably ran 5 balls before I had to play safe and so I will finish this game!! ✔
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LMAO!!! I'm not sure I've ever been to a pool hall, that had enough door for a fish as big as you to fit through.

On a serious note, are you also the inventor of the Ram Shot???
 
justinb386 said:
I think what you said at the end is far fetched. Do you think there are 100,000 solid A level players out there? Are there even a 100,000 players out there that take the sport of pool seriously? I do not know.

I think that an APA 8 = maybe a solid B level player, and you are right, solid B players do not have that strong of a defensive game, and they are not going to beat the ghost on a regular bases. Any solid A player would probably be willing to give that spot (the breaks and ball in hand after the break) to an average B level player, on a good 9 foot Diamond, or decent Brunswick Gold Crown table. I would be betting on the solid A level player to beat the average B level player in that game (maybe races to 9 or 11 for example) every time. But to say there are 100,000 solid A level players out there? That is very far fetched, I think.
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He said the WORLD. Pretty big place imo. This is purely conjecture but I stand by my original number. Places like Taiwan, where it's integrated into school curriculums, or the Phillipines, etc...Probably have 50k just themselves. Had he specified America only, then I would agree with you.
 
De420MadHatter said:
Hell!!! I can throw a rock in any direction and hit 5 of em. He's saying he's an APA 8 bro!! I look at that the same as I would look at playing your Grandma. Unless apa 8s on the East Coast play like burning hell, cuz in the Midwest they suck. Plain and simple. No apa 8 is beating the ghost for damn sure. I'm pretty sure you can't show me a apa 8 that can average, over the course of a 100 games, a run to the 7 ball every rack. Talking 9ft Diamond here. I'm not saying he's a shitty player, just misinformed, and lacking a little knowledge. We all start somewhere. He just said 100 players and it's probably along the lines of 100,000 +
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I was an 8 when I left APA. Does that count?
 
Ha
..coz beating the 9b ghost doesnt automatically translate to success. I manhandle the 9b ghost and i wouldnt bet even money i would finish top 4 in a medium level tournament, like the apt
Icon of Sin said:
If you are going to lose to the ghost by that much then there is no way you can out run this spot even with being allowed to play a safe.

If you can beat the ghost 9 to 3 then why don't we know who you are?
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garczar said:
Used to be a guy here in Tulsa who'd do this: if his cueball ever touched a rail, he lost. Seen him outrun it quite a few times.
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I seen a guy get hill hill doing that for his last money and instead of always hitting the cue ball he had the other guy thinking it was okay to shoot object balls into each other to tie them up and give ball in hand...untill hill hill happened...then no one got paid. That roll up shot is strong though when played right.
 
I always remember the line that Buddy Hall says, "It doesnt matter what the spot is if they never get to shoot!"

Buddy handed out some pretty good spots to "champions" and won.

Ken
 
i started to play again in 96 after i bought a pool hall and became a pretty strong apa 9....there were 4 players (FARGO, JC, OOP, COOKIE MONSTER) that hung at " THE RACK" who would have been a bad game for me with break and bih on a tough big table. I'd have to play WELL/VERY WELL while FARGO or JC played POORLY for me to have booked a winner. i liked my chances more on a bar box where i ran a documented 7 pk and a couple 5 pks. i was a much better offensive than defensive player as a result of growing up during the two shot foul era.

i concur with the many others who don't like an avg apa 8 in this game

go on the road and give it a whirl if you don't like your money
 
Bigkat said:
THIS IS HOW I IMAGINE 1 GAME WITH "SAID" PERSON GOING!! My break. If I drop a ball and have a shot afterwards I'm about 50% chance to run out. Because of the gravity of the situation and the mere fact that all of eternity is riding on this one particular game LOL if I do not have a shot he will be in a severe predicament. I'm not saying that he will be 100% hidden but I can guarantee you that I will place him LONG on opposite sides and both balls locked to the rail. Good luck shooting off the rail and seeing only a portion of the top of the ball with no real chance of putting any English on it with any degree of certainty. This leads to my being back at the table with probably have decent shot. I probably ran 5 balls before I had to play safe and so I will finish this game!! ✔
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If you have BIH after the break I dont see how you would not have a shot, interesting strategy there.
Even with BIH I would bet a fair amount of money and give you half a dozen attempts at freezing both the cue ball and the 1 ball on opposite short rails. I am not saying it can not be done but even the best players will not be successful at completing this shot very often. I suspect in your minds eye you envision this happening but I would like to see you actually do it, thinking about doing it and actually pulling off this shot are 2 entirely different things.
 
Black-Balled said:
Ha
..coz beating the 9b ghost doesnt automatically translate to success. I manhandle the 9b ghost and i wouldnt bet even money i would finish top 4 in a medium level tournament, like the apt
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Edit: That's funny...
 
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I do believe that bar table v 9ft shimmed pockets makes a difference in this hypothetical matchup!!
 
You should have given more specifics in the beginning. If it's race to 1, on a valley with buckets, you getting 1 on the wire, hell I'll bet it all on you :thumbup:
 
Being a level 8 means you have some talent. You progressed past the basics. Your running now. The thing that breaks you into the high end is your command on the break. it is how you can stack racks over the other guy/gal in a tourney.

As to the other comment about 9ft Diamonds in Texas they are right. Tough table to play on and most our money players and tour players live on Diamond Pro Ams and Brunswick Gold Crowns. I personally have a Pro Am at the house...tight pockets.... but I love it. You leave that table for a bar table in some would be tourney and you just kill it.

Kind Regards,
Michael McDonald
Shooters Billiard Supply
www.shootersbilliardsupply.com
 
I've followed the pool discussion fairly well, but some of the gambling lingo might as well be in Farsi, Tagalog, or Sanskrit.

"Yeah, I'd give you the deuce on the boards, but if the roll slams upside, I'd spot the tiger on the lamb, and then bet the deathball in the slats."

WTF are you people talking about?
 
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