The table done by Realkingcobra

[kvinbrwr]

IMO the 4 inch pockets are going to turn out to be a mistake. That table isn't going to be as busy as you might think. Just wait and see.

I bet Glen tried to talk whoever was in charge out of it.

JC

JC

It just kills the table for straight pool, I think. You sure can't be working the the balls out of the pack, which, for me at least, was 1/2 the fun of that game.

Too small a pockets takes even most pro players out of their games, and completely destroys the games from a middle B on down (9 or 10 ball).

One pocket is different, those guys just sort of push the balls around anyway.

Kevin

 

[TATE]

IMO the 4 inch pockets are going to turn out to be a mistake. That table isn't going to be as busy as you might think. Just wait and see.

I bet Glen tried to talk whoever was in charge out of it.

JC

I think you're right about Glen but wrong about the table. A table like that is going to appeal to the better players, strong B and A players. It will help them sharpen their aim and tighten up their position play and routine. No more cheating pockets. You have to play excellent speed and angle on a table like this. A B player who learns how to run out on this table becomes an A. It takes a pretty strong player to beat the ghost on a table like this.

A table like this encourages players to use it to practice. The challenge also makes it frustrating but addictive.

 

[Blue Hog ridr]

Or the bashers (until recently)

Kevin, even the so called Bashers never questioned Glen's knowledge or ability.

That part was never in dispute. It was more obvious things that were not needed to be brought up in this particular thread.

You know this, right?

 

[KRJ]

Kevin, even the so called Bashers never questioned Glen's knowledge or ability.

That part was never in dispute. It was more obvious things that were not needed to be brought up in this particular thread.

You know this, right?

Exactly Hog. And there are guys every bit as good... they are just not here telling us that because they have too much work, and spend their time returning calls, and attending to other customer service issues.

 

[Baxter]

The table was 4" before Glen started, just not done correctly. Now it's correct, and it plays awesome. The tight pocket arguments are all a matter of opinion, and I share the same opinion as Tate. I love this table and how it plays. Hopefully the tight pockets will keep the bangers off, but they never seem to notice the difference anyways until I point it out to them (which I always do hoping to shoo them off my favorite table lol).

 

[Banks]

I think you're right about Glen but wrong about the table. A table like that is going to appeal to the better players, strong B and A players. It will help them sharpen their aim and tighten up their position play and routine. No more cheating pockets. You have to play excellent speed and angle on a table like this. A B player who learns how to run out on this table becomes an A. It takes a pretty strong player to beat the ghost on a table like this.

A table like this encourages players to use it to practice. The challenge also makes it frustrating but addictive.

One place up here has about 4" pockets. I enjoyed playing on it for the most part. It must not be the best for an accurate reading of one's game and takes something out of 14.1, while the games I played on it were 8, 9, 1p and I think some banks. I'm considering making one of my hangout's tables pockets tighter. Excellent practice before matching up on another table. The downside to the table I had played on was that it was more expensive. I imagine once the pockets get tight, they had better make sure not to have them angled or cut wrong.

 

[JC]

The table was 4" before Glen started, just not done correctly. Now it's correct, and it plays awesome. The tight pocket arguments are all a matter of opinion, and I share the same opinion as Tate. I love this table and how it plays. Hopefully the tight pockets will keep the bangers off, but they never seem to notice the difference anyways until I point it out to them (which I always do hoping to shoo them off my favorite table lol).

Report back after the slick is gone off of the rail cloth and the shiney is gone off of the balls. I understand cleaning the balls isn't in the routine at that room.

JC

 

[TATE]

One place up here has about 4" pockets. I enjoyed playing on it for the most part. It must not be the best for an accurate reading of one's game and takes something out of 14.1, while the games I played on it were 8, 9, 1p and I think some banks. I'm considering making one of my hangout's tables pockets tighter. Excellent practice before matching up on another table. The downside to the table I had played on was that it was more expensive. I imagine once the pockets get tight, they had better make sure not to have them angled or cut wrong.

I agree on straight pool. The challenge and beauty of straight pool is to be able to make a high run. My estimation is a 40 ball run on a 4 inch table is about as difficult as an 80 ball run on a 5" table. Earl was mentioning something to the effect that on a 4" table he considered a 50 - 60 ball run to be pretty good for himself - this coming from someone who regularly runs over 100. Hell he ran over 100 playing 9 ball on a tight table!!!

Here in California, most of the tables in the serious rooms are set up tight now, so you really have to practice on tight equipment to perform your best. The main thing that can be difficult is to break the habit of cheating the pocket. Even on a tight table you can favor a side of the pocket, but on a shot of any distance you greatly increase the chances of missing.

 

[seven_7days]

Hell he ran over 100 playing 9 ball on a tight table!!!

What do you mean by Earl running over 100 playing 9 ball?

 

[jtaylor996]

What do you mean by Earl running over 100 playing 9 ball?

He ran 11 racks and won a million bucks.

But I'm pretty sure a handful of those made the 9 on the break, so he should be well under a 100 ball 9-ball run.

 

[Quesports]

I agree on straight pool. The challenge and beauty of straight pool is to be able to make a high run. My estimation is a 40 ball run on a 4 inch table is about as difficult as an 80 ball run on a 5" table. Earl was mentioning something to the effect that on a 4" table he considered a 50 - 60 ball run to be pretty good for himself - this coming from someone who regularly runs over 100. Hell he ran over 100 playing 9 ball on a tight table!!!

Here in California, most of the tables in the serious rooms are set up tight now, so you really have to practice on tight equipment to perform your best. The main thing that can be difficult is to break the habit of cheating the pocket. Even on a tight table you can favor a side of the pocket, but on a shot of any distance you greatly increase the chances of missing.

Hey Tate, If you ever find yourself in Chicago go to Marie's Golden Cue on W Montrose Ave. There is a table in there that Joe Gold paid to have rebuilt for straight pool that may just be the best straight pool table I have ever played on. I don't know what size the pockets are and don't care, they are not tight, the table plays spectacular. Joe invited me out to dinner at Carson's then we went to Marie's and played on 'his' table, it was a great evening with a great cue maker and player. I'd recommend that table for straight pool to anyone..