The window is Open for Jay and Fatboy!!!!

Oh my goodness, now we are at... well if we play this game Corey will win it. Possibly. What part of the match did you not see??? I think SVB broke and ran 36 racks of 10 ball out of the 100 he won, missed 13 shots in 170 racks. I guess what I don't like about these postings is the negativity of it all. Maybe as players we should be thankful that Shane and Corey put on a fine exhibition of pool and someone won and someone lost. Maybe these two players are more progressive in their thoughts on the direction of the player industry than what the match was played for. I think that Corey and Shane possibly both believe that irregardless of the winner, this would be great for pool and it is this kind of stuff that legends are made of. For that attempt alone I applaud both players and view both as winners.
 
Shane prefers Ten Ball for a very good reason. It is a tougher game than 9-Ball, which often is just a racking contest. And I agree with him wholeheartedly. I think we will see a trend toward more and more Ten Ball tournaments for that reason.

Ten Ball has often been the game of choice for money match-ups for years now. Most of the big Ring games are Ten Ball also. It's a better test than 9-Ball for many reasons which I won't go into here.

I'm not making any excuses for Shane wanting to play Ten Ball either. He's a very bright young man that knows exactly what he's doing. That's one reason why I will bet on him. You can bet your money however you like and I will do the same.

When you start talking about 10K, 25K and 50K bets, this is serious money. Before I make a bet like this, I will want to have a game I really like. I'm not doing this for entertainment value. A 100 dollar bet is one thing. That's a sweat bet. Thousands are no longer sweat bets.

If someone doesn't like Ten Ball, no problem. They don't have to play. Or bet for that matter. As far as Justin and Chad streaming a match, that's totally cool with me. I invite them to anything we set up.
 
bob_bushka said:
Oh my goodness, now we are at... well if we play this game Corey will win it. Possibly. What part of the match did you not see??? I think SVB broke and ran 36 racks of 10 ball out of the 100 he won, missed 13 shots in 170 racks. I guess what I don't like about these postings is the negativity of it all. Maybe as players we should be thankful that Shane and Corey put on a fine exhibition of pool and someone won and someone lost. Maybe these two players are more progressive in their thoughts on the direction of the player industry than what the match was played for. I think that Corey and Shane possibly both believe that irregardless of the winner, this would be great for pool and it is this kind of stuff that legends are made of. For that attempt alone I applaud both players and view both as winners.
That was my point exactly!!!
 
Well stated Jay 10 ball is much better, and Shane don't need to play rack your own 9 ball to prove anything to me or anyone that watched the match. He was cool hand Luke as far I could tell.

Leonard
 
corvette1340 said:
I'm not sure if this is Chris, but I've already stated that I will definitely bet on Corey if he plays Shane some rack your own 9 ball in Atlanta. Jay knows this and he knows that the window is SEMI-Open and I will bet at least 25K. I will not however go anywhere outside of Georgia because unlike the rest of the woof crowd, I have a job that pays 6 figures and prefer to keep it that way.

i dont make 6 figures a year, but I do understand about responsibility, i will be in atlanta next week.
 
Fatboy said:
Emotional bettors are fish in my book.


rep.

Corey is one of my favorite players to watch, but I bet the other way because I liked the game. Nothing more.
 
Fatboy said:
I didnt say anything bad about Cory, he is a great player and will have many more wins in future, hell I wish I could beat him getting the 5,7 and the break-I would still be the dog in that bet.

I didnt mention how much I bet or who I bet it with pubically, I dont put my business in the street. I'm not a big shot, I pick my spots and thats it.

I dont go to windows to make my bets, I dont have to prove anything to anyone pubically or privatly, its a bet not proving a point. Infact if I made a bet and who I bet it with went public with it and the amount-I wouldnt give that person anymore action(depending on the circumstances) if he said who he is thats cool but never the amount, my action is private. Just like I respect who I bet with, find a thread where 1. I say who I bet with 2. How much I bet 3. Anything negitative about Cory, Look long and hard they arent any. I ahve been around ALONG time and know better that that. I booked one winner on this match(not on here, over the phone) so what? its over. They both played great, actionReport was Great, Announcers were great. Infact I didnt say a bad word about anything-please find a thread where I did. I just happened to be on the right side, dosent make me any better or smarter than anyone else.

Cory is a stand-up guy to go to shanes house and make that game happen and I applaude that,

I'm not a wise-ass, I do make light hearted comments about my bankroll(hell i'm proud of what I achieved-but I never put it in anyones face) and thats alot more than most people with 10% of what I have would do, its caled class, I put my pants on like anyone else and am not any better than anyone here, hell I play worse than most here. I try and motivate people into being positive and happy and with that wonderful things can happen,


So there is no "window" for me to step up to I pick my spots with people I know, like, and trust. Sorry If this wasnt what you wanted out of me but its all your gonna get. I bet on who I like to win the game not who I like personally, I havent ever met either of them, its likeely I'd like them both and get along with them the same. I make it a point to get along with everyone-its a better life making friends not enimys or being a tough guy on a bet. There is no emotion, hell i'd against my mom if she was the dog, God rest her sole. Betting on someone dosent make them my friend its just a bet-nothing more nothing less. Emotional bettors are fish in my book.

All the best

Fatboy.

Do you realize how many times you said "I, me or my".:)
 
Fatboy said:
i dont make 6 figures a year, but I do understand about responsibility, i will be in atlanta next week.

I didn't put that in there to be arrogant or sound snooty, only to emphasize the fact that I can't just pick up and go to South Dakota, Ohio, Olathe, Las Vegas, or any other place for a pool match. As much as I love gambling, and trust me when I say I will bet on ANYTHING or its just not fun, I also love my life and my family. I was also trying to stress the fact that I like Corey as a player and as a person because I've played golf and gone out partying with him several times. I generally don't bet because I like someone, but I would if it were 9 ball rack your own because I believe that Corey would win that. Anywho, no hard feeling to anyone as I really enjoy the woofing that leads up to a big match. I also enjoy the fact that I can hand over money or get money from someone after a match and then buy them a drink right after its over.
 
Deadon said:
Do you realize how many times you said "I, me or my".:)

no i didnt count that, it was my first post of the day, sorry my choice of words offends you, but I was nice and didnt knock anyone. Its a matter of class and treating people with respect, dignity and privacy. If those are bad traits then I guess I'm a bad guy. Sorry.
 
corvette1340 said:
I didn't put that in there to be arrogant or sound snooty, only to emphasize the fact that I can't just pick up and go to South Dakota, Ohio, Olathe, Las Vegas, or any other place for a pool match. As much as I love gambling, and trust me when I say I will bet on ANYTHING or its just not fun, I also love my life and my family. I was also trying to stress the fact that I like Corey as a player and as a person because I've played golf and gone out partying with him several times. I generally don't bet because I like someone, but I would if it were 9 ball rack your own because I believe that Corey would win that. Anywho, no hard feeling to anyone as I really enjoy the woofing that leads up to a big match. I also enjoy the fact that I can hand over money or get money from someone after a match and then buy them a drink right after its over.

i'm happy for you, its hard work out there and having good prioritys is honerable. It was a great match and I enjoyed it, I hope in the future there is alot more of this, since TV wont bring pool into our homes in a good format, its good to see that now with computers were getting live pool for the first time ever, way better than videos. I do like some videos of historic matches etc. But live pool is great for action, its hard to find action on a video. I did once in Sacramento watch the re-run of Tuesday night fights on usa network in 88 at 1am in the pool room, it aired live at 7 or 8 that same night, so I went into the jointed cue and asked a guy if he wanted to bet the fight, i had to lay 3 to 1 but i watched it a few hours earilyer, he bet on all 4 fights with me, that was the easiest action ever-he had no clue it was aired a few hours earilyer.
 
Chris Why don't you come back to Dallas and you guys can play at Diamonds....I've only seen Chris play once and I've seen Corey play a couple of times...They're both great players....I think if Corey and Gabe stopped spending so much time on the golf course and more time in the pool room that it would be a good match...when I saw Chris last month it looked like he hadn't been out side for a while and the other hand Gabe and Corey look like they just walked off a beach somewhere everytime I see them....Corey and Gabe have accomplished a lot and so has Chris, but some players are more content with enjoying life than living in a pool room..

Rack'em
 
Deadon said:
Do you realize how many times you said "I, me or my".:)
That was to emphasize his point.....Fatboy does his thing without being influenced by others, and in turn will not try to influence others. He always states that his opinion is just that.. HIS opinion. There may not be a more upfront and stand up person that you would ever meet. And that of course, is MY opinion.

Chris
 
jay helfert said:
Somehow this does not sound like Chris talking. He's a little too soft spoken for this. First of all, I want to know who this is. I have no idea what comment he is referring to.

And yes, if Chris or Corey wants to come to L.A. or Vegas and play Shane, they can bet what they want. 50K, 100K no problem. Please don't start talking about coming to Ohio or wherever. It ain't gonna happen. Our money is here and that's where it's staying. If you want it, you're going to have to come and get it! Pay your own way too!

Please no woofing. I am allergic to it, and refuse to respond. I'm not hard to find and neither is Fatboy. If you really want this game, get in touch and it can be arranged. If you just want to make noise online, have fun.

Personally, I think this is BS with a capital B.

Oh my bad Jay..Thought this post meant you would play rack your own nine ball...my bad must have misread something in it...

Why is ten ball a better game anyhow...Less runouts and more safeties why does that make it a better game..I prefer it to myself but only because i have a bad break...
 
chris bartram said:
Oh my bad Jay..Thought this post meant you would play rack your own nine ball...my bad must have misread something in it...

Why is ten ball a better game anyhow...Less runouts and more safeties why does that make it a better game..I prefer it to myself but only because i have a bad break...

I'll tell you why it's a better game. Because Shane says that's the game he wants to play. If you think you (or Corey) can beat him, then come on. Otherwise we have nothing to talk about. Have a nice day.
 
jay helfert said:
I'll tell you why it's a better game. Because Shane says that's the game he wants to play. If you think you (or Corey) can beat him, then come on. Otherwise we have nothing to talk about. Have a nice day.

So say you are sorry Jay....You said bet now you say no bet to the nine ball game..So I want an apology for wasting my time..

I knew you wouldn't bet playing rack your own nine ball with Corey no matter if they met you on the moon....

Nobody will play him that way....Even your little Phillipino buddy Orcullo won't play Corey that way....
 
YOU ARE INCORRECT. Rack your own 9-ball has an element of skill to the break with players even playing position on the one or two off the break. Ten ball is hit them hard as you can and hope you get more shots off the break than your opponent. Remember this: IF ONE PLAYER GETS A SHOT ON THE ONE 50% OF THE TIME OFF THE BREAK AND HIS OPPONENT GETS A SHOT 30% OF THE TIME , THE GUY GETTING THE SHOT 30% CANNOT WIN NO MATTER HOW GOOD HE PLAYS. ITS ALL ABOUT WHO GETS THE MOST SHOTS OFF THE BREAK IF THE TWO PLAYERS ARE IN THE SAME BALLPARK SKILL WISE. Shane has no chance playing rack your own 9 ball on a tight tablewith Corey.
 
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Southpaw said:
I think a good match would be SVB and Larry Nevel playing 10 ball. Whatcha think?

Southpaw

easy-e said:
How much weight would Larry get? Even he knows he would need some.

Ask Shane about playing Larry, see what he says. The last couple times it was brought up to him he didn't seem to wanna jump up anytime soon. Just saying.
 
suprnva said:
Ask Shane about playing Larry, see what he says. The last couple times it was brought up to him he didn't seem to wanna jump up anytime soon. Just saying.
larry needs weight,period. corey gave him weight and beat him,if that tells ya anything.
 
dimes33 said:
larry needs weight,period. corey gave him weight and beat him,if that tells ya anything.

Like I said, ask Shane about playing Larry and see what he says. He hasn't been thrilled about the idea in the past, but maybe things have changed in two weeks.

Chris Bartrum and Donny Mills also need to let me know if they still wanna play Larry some. Chris has the 9 playing 10-ball if he wants to play in South Carolina, and Donny can get the 7 playing 9-ball there too.

Anyone else interested in playing Larry some???
 
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