I know what you're saying Eric. Even if I don't gamble, I have read enuff stories on AZ to know how it works.
You approach me to play for 5K, race to ten. I didn't ask you, you asked me.
I win your 5K. Now, I am supposed to give you the chance to walk out of the hall with the same amount as you walked in with. How do I know that the same courtesy would have been afforded to me. No guarantees on that one.
Now, I win the second set, race to ten. Am I supposed to give you another chance to win your 10K back now?
Thats not taking a chance. May as well play for beer caps then.
To Gamble is to Take a Chance on something.
You took a chance on losing your 5K and now it belongs to me.
no all due respect if i ask anyone to play for 5 large , first off i'm going to know about their reputation. and that means I will know if I will be given a chance to get even, if not, i aint asking. I been around a few years. I got one guy we bet than much a game and i'm stuck $30K we will play again cause i know he will lose 50-100K in one session and i will to. we have played twice, once my back went out, next time i played weak and scared and got robbed. but because of his reputation and mine we both know we got action, thats not always easy to find, so dont shit where you eat-even if you lose and especially if you win(always treat your customers good-cause thats what they are). thats big $ pool, the same rules 97% apply to small $ pool too.
second, think about it. say we play a $500 set, and In this case I dont know you from adam, If you win, and I ask to play again, say you beat me 11-7 playing a race to 11 9ball, Why in the world wouldnt you take the free shot at $1000? you just beat me 11/7, its a free shot? I have played guys and won 6,7,8 straight sets, they are chasing. I have seen guys play by the game and lose 44 straight games, when he won the 45th he quit, he didnt want to stop until he one one. thats happened lot of times, i wont name names, i have never beat anyone that many games, probably 15 in a row and had them pull up after they win one.
when you beat some one, and they want to play again, chances are your going to win the 2nd set too. and the 3rd. you have just created a customer and there is no telling how much you can win over time, today tomorrow, next month or year. I know a guy a pro beat for $80,000 on the golf table in Modesto 15-18 years back over a 8-12 month period, it was the guys whole retirement, then a 2nd guy went off just like that again in Modesto on the golf table to lots of players. Again no names, but real action.
now if it was real close hill/hill you know its close and you still got a free shot at a second set. so you lose, well you just got 2 sets of $500 pool played and that right there will make you a stronger player and next time you play for $100 it will seem like a joke, and give you a edge over a guy with less experience, so even tho you broke out even, you gained experience playing for $$$, I didnt start playing $500 pool I worked up to it, some guys get there fast, some never do. took me sometime i'll admit that. and when i havent played $500 pool for a year believe me its tough to bet that much, the first day back, but now after years and big action I fall back into $$$ mode faster now.
Some guys like keith ARE $$$ mode, I wasnt i had to build up to it, so playing the 2nd set for a free shot and double the cash and free experience if I lost was a winner no matter how the $$$ came out, i looked at the big picture. I wanted to be the strongest cash player I could be cause I cant play like Alex. So I had to find another route. Am the biggest action, nope, i have offered Dip to bet a mil, $100K/game, i never bet that in my life, i would have been scared shitless the first few games, I wanted to play 10 ahead 8ball for 1K-100K per game 10 games ahead, he declined.
TO answer your question about 2 sets, here is the answer: What your not obligated to do, is raise the bet, so If I play you for $500 and lose then say bet $1000!!! now you say, "no-i'll let you out, just like I leet you in, bet $500 or no action". then I got no beef. Its your prerogative to keep the bet the same but not raise it as the winner. So you play the 2nd set and are up 2 sets, i say"bet 1000" to get even, then no your not obligated, the origonal bet stands, now your up 1000 with a shot at 1500 or 500, its not smart to raise the bet until your up 4 -5 sets if at all, then you get the most $$$ possible, your obligated to play until the "Customer wants to stop" or like i said many posts ago, you manage your game and put a time limit on it, or leave the "up" up and come back tomaro and keep your customer happy. this is playing pool for $$ the right way. Ask anyone here with more experience than me, if i'm mistaken about something I wnat to know what it is. stopping after a set is THE mistake when you win.
A few rare times I have won a set and knew I wasnt suppost to, and as a matter of respect, I played the 2nd set, lost. the guy got even-i make him pay the time. Once this didnt happen in Hardtimes over 2 $1000 sets, i wast the player i was just in in the action. couple years ago, I walked ut on the time, it was on him for other reasons.
But always play a guy you just beat, its a free shot at double the cash, and the gamblers ethic.
this loss of ethic's is why there is no action anymore, im not picking on you personally, your good with me, i'm speaking in general terms about gambling on pool using you as a example for conversation purposes.
