This is why I don't like to play for money!!! ...

smashmouth

AzB Silver Member
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op sounds like a whiny girl


you never quit up like that unless you agree to something beforehand

that's pretty much the defacto standard

op should not gamble

op should not play pool

op sounds like he really needed that $50

that's all, lol
 

Black-Balled

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op sounds like a whiny girl


you never quit up like that unless you agree to something beforehand

that's pretty much the defacto standard

op should not gamble

op should not play pool

op sounds like he really needed that $50

that's all, lol
hmmph...sounded to me like he would have only gotten 7hr sleep, if he fell asleep then/ there and woke up at work:
I say I'm done...gotta work tomorrow. Nice playing. It's 1AM ...I GOTTA WORK AT 8.
 

Mickey Qualls

You study the watch......
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Flip it around...

Doesn't the opponent, the guy that initiated the bet, ALSO have an obligation to lay out how many sets are played ? Not just the 'winner' (in this scenario) ? :scratchhead:

What if 8onthebreak lost the set ? And then the guy that he lost to packed up and walked out ? :confused:

Hell, even if the opponent says something like, "I'm here until closing", it opens the door to clarify how many sets and/or how much someone is up or down before cues get unscrewed...

Isn't the onus on both of them to quantify the deal ?
 

Cdryden

Pool Addict
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I would have solved this by saying "I will play you 1 quick game for $50." Take it or leave it. That way you can still get out of there at a decent time and he gets a chance to win his money back.
 

CreeDo

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I don't always agree with "Gambling etiquette".
But I'm sure any longtime player and AZ member is aware of it.

So you might not agree with "you gotta give me a chance to win my money back",
but you DO have to expect it.

And since you can see it coming a mile away,
maybe next time you say something that will prevent the argument like
"ok but I don't have time for two races, I gotta work early. One set only. Cool?"
 

weakfingers

AzB Silver Member
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I always lay it on the table beforehand how much I'm willing to play for and how much time I have. That way, they know what they're getting into. Not necessary but courteous.
 

Pushout

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That's why you gotta let him know up front you only have time for 1 set. or set a time that both of you agree to quit at no matter what. i wouldn't get butt hurt over smething like this but i've seen it n you're right it's crappy

^This. If you know you're only going to play one set, you need to make that very plain right from the git-go.
 

ShootingArts

Smorg is giving St Peter the 7!
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gotta wonder

Plenty of people have already posted that you should have let him know upfront that you only had time for one set. I do agree, a matter of courtesy and etiquette. However, you concluded your "contract" at the end of the set so while someone might feel a little whiney when you quit you didn't do anything that was vastly wrong.

I gotta wonder about the entourage thing though. Was he playing for the crowd? Trying to lay down for a set or two, get the bet up, and take you off? The would be hustlers are the ones that really get angry when someone quits them unexpectedly. Some of the funniest stuff I ever did was letting someone dump and raise the bet over and over until they raise the bet one more time and you see a new purpose in their movements. Fine time to quit them just for the fun of it! I have done that even when I could beat the hustler just to fry somebody who is trying to play me for a chump. Would have meant more money to play them but a lot more fun to quit them after they had given me a bunch of money trying to set up a score.

Almost always the other person is trying to maneuver you into doing what they want you to do. Then many get whiney when you don't play into their plans. Just another way to try to manipulate you.

Hu
 

Black-Balled

AzB Silver Member
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Walk out.Plain and simple. He would have done the same to you. You left the winner and that was important. Don't gamble if you can't afford to lose that is the true moral of the story

your assumption is equally troublesome.

you have no indication the other guy would quit after 1 set.
 

TheNewSharkster

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I stopped into the pool hall tonight at like 11pm after a corporate party with the higher-ups. I'm practicing and my line of sight is off...missing everything by a hair...

I figure, no biggie, I'll come around...I always do.

A guy wants to play for money...I say sure...
8 ball? I say...
He sais , sure...race to 5 for $50...sounds good to me so we start.

We play our set, I beat him 5/3 ...and 2 of the 3 games he won were where I ran out and tanked the 8... I'm playing as bad as I can play, so I'm playing smart and controlling the table. A lot of defense.

He pays the 50.
I say I'm done...gotta work tomorrow. Nice playing. It's 1AM ...I GOTTA WORK AT 8.

This is where it goes where you think it's going...

He and his entourage peanut gallery start complaining...saying...so that's how it's done...your not gonna play anymore? , they are being assholes. I say...I gotta work...ey keep at it as I'm unscrewing my cues.

I say, really, does $50 bucks really mean that much to you? I make that every ***edited :)....REALLY???

He keeps flapping...so I offer to play him for a little more next Thursday, up the bet some, make it worth my while, ( Thursday is my 1 night a week to play) he sais he's only in town for like 3 days.
I explain I gotta work, he doesn't understand...I explain that people that live in Myrtle Beach aren't all like jimmy buffet. We work. I also explain to him that he probably doesn't want anymore of this, since he couldn't even give me a game and I'm dogging 8's...playing like a donkey...what happens when I wake up????????
Another set would put us into 2:30-3am ...can't do.

When is a good time to end a set...they're never happy when u gotta go cuz you have their money. So you have to play until they finally win it back????

I've never had someone hand over cash happily and not ***** that its over. I feel like throwing the measly $50 back at him and saying...fill your tank 1/2 way up.

SO FRUSTRATING...where's the fun in gambling???



You are not obligated to play another set. He didn't ask you if you wanted to play two sets. The agreement was race to 5 for $50. Tell him to stop acting like a little biatch.
 

Woof Biscuit

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Not to pile on 8, but you are in the wrong here. If you only have time for one set, let them know. Nothing chaps my ass more than someone doing exactly what you did. Everyone always asks what being "nitty" is. Here you go.

Edit: Before you think I'm wrong...go look at the Good Action List in the action room and see how many on it agree with you or agree with the rest of us. What's even more brutal is that you probably cost yourself some money. I wouldn't play you again unless you posted several sets.
 
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Espartaco_7

AzB Silver Member
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The unwritten book of gambling

In the unwritten book of gambling if you´re gonna play only one set you SHOULD (not have, but should) tell the opponent before starting the match.

It´s also said that the guy losing is the one who quits (Unless it´s stated before gambling). That´s gambling ethiquete and that´s how I think it should be.

I´ve seen guys win 7 matches in a row and when they lose 2 they quit winners. That will kill their action and creates a BAD NAME for themselves in gambling. JMHO.
 

elvicash

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That's why you gotta let him know up front you only have time for 1 set. or set a time that both of you agree to quit at no matter what. i wouldn't get butt hurt over smething like this but i've seen it n you're right it's crappy

Why do you have to let him know? I don't understand this attitude in pool. Same players sit in a poker game one gets up in the first few hands and quits playing I got to go and leaves that is OK especially in a casino maybe less so in a house game but still OK. The quitting while playing poker is acceptable not OK in pool.

Oh I know if I am playing some one and want to be done by a certain time to mention that at the start but when you beat someone out of something it is no longer theirs it is now your money.
 

TheNewSharkster

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Not to pile on 8, but you are in the wrong here. If you only have time for one set, let them know. Nothing chaps my ass more than someone doing exactly what you did. Everyone always asks what being "nitty" is. Here you go.

Edit: Before you think I'm wrong...go look at the Good Action List in the action room and see how many on it agree with you or agree with the rest of us.


Dude, did you even read the original post? His opponent asked him if he wanted to play a race to 5 for $50. They agreed on it. What else should have he done? It sounds to me they already agreed on 1 set. I just don't get some people here.

I think you are in the wrong for having unrealistic expectations.
 
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Woof Biscuit

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Dude, did you even read the original post? His opponent asked him if he wanted to play a race to 5 for $50. They agreed on it. What else should have he done? It sounds to me they already agreed on 1 set. I just don't get some people here.

I think you are in the wrong for having unrealistic expectations.

I read it. We just disagree...and that's OK. As a courtesy, he should have said something like, "I have time for one set" or "I have to work in the morning so this is it for me", etc. Like most things in life, communication is key. Maybe I just take action more seriously. I'm trying to maximize my profit. Like Fatboy said, I look at it like a business situation. He is my customer and I want to make him happy so that he keeps "buying".

For example, there is this guy that I play all of the time. He has lost thousands to me. $2K in the last few weeks. The place where we play serves food and has a full bar. He eats and drinks like a champ. He always asks me when we are finished..."you got the tab right?". Sometimes it's $150 or so. I could be a nit and say that I would cover his time ($10) and he would have to pay the $140. But you know what, that would be like cutting off my nose to spite my face. This situation is no different except for the amount.
 
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Jaden

"no buds chill"
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Do I get the same deal Eric????

You got action kid, just post up everything you can stand, go borrow more, steal some, rob a bank, borrow Nathans life savings, hock the camera's at Super Pawn and Post up!!!!!

See the above paragraph is how to manage a game when you want to get shot:eek: Just kidding Lenny is a VERY GOOD FRIEND!! i'm just busting balls.


Just kidding Lenny, i'm pretty sure your playing stronger than me by now, i aint played much this past year, i ran a 11 playing one hole the other night had all 15 up one wan in the jaw up table not makeable, had a real tough straight back for #12 I missed by a mile to get shape for 13,14. Pockets were on the big side tho.

see ya soon

eric:smile:

What about me, can I get the same deal?????

:thumbup::D:D:D

Jaden
 
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