this not the way it should be

jasonlaus said:
If you think the guy is gonna win it back, just quit! You all have loser mentality and that's why you will never have a big score.

This isn't about that. It's about a guy being stupid and not taking advantage of a good situation.

The winning player is gonna continue winning and the loser is going off, probably for all his money, cue, whatever.

If the guys speed changes on the next set QUIT, you still won $50.
Jason

And for the guys saying it's none of his/my business, you are 100% correct. But why limit yourself is all I'm saying
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Maybe the winner was "content" with what he had.

As far as sets go, I'd rather play "by the game", than short sets. If you play three sets and the guy beats you two sets 5-4, 5-4, and you win the third set 5-0, who is the better player? He has won 10 games and you have won 13.

To me, three short sets of 5 prove nothing...especially playing 9-ball or 10-ball.

I've had idiots try to "double up" on me, over and over and over, in the hopes that they can hit something that "evens them out", so they can quit even.

Set a time limit, instead of a number of games. I can play a LOT of games in a few hours and I used to get on rolls and steamroll people. I've played plenty of times where I've got 10, and more games ahead, in a HURRY.

Everybody wants an "edge". My edge was that I would usually "outrun" most of my opponents in the long run. I've been down plenty of money at times, but never quit because I knew that if we played "long enough", I'd come out on top.
 
MattPoland said:
I assume not every player gambling in pool is doing it to make a score. In my case, I have a job that pays well. I’m not looking to bust someone or play with anyone trying to bust me. I gamble solely to make it worthwhile to be playing sets because locking horns is more fun than practice. I’m sure I’m just a nit from a gambling perspective but not everyone has to play by a hustler’s rules. I could easily see myself refusing to double up.


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Now we're talking. Folks that think I'm a nit for seeing it like Matt are the one's that I think are fools for thinking I ain't gonna do what I want, when I want. If I say I'm quitting after a certain # of games or at a certain time and you think I won't, well just hide and watch! lol
 
Jackpot is right.

When a loser wants to raise the bet, let him!
You will never win real money if you don’t.

The worst you can do is break even.

Bill S.
 
Johnny Rosato said:
Now we're talking. Folks that think I'm a nit for seeing it like Matt are the one's that I think are fools for thinking I ain't gonna do what I want, when I want. If I say I'm quitting after a certain # of games or at a certain time and you think I won't, well just hide and watch! lol
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Did you even read the original post?
Jason
 
Maybe the guy is comfortable playing for $50 a set, but not for $100. Maybe the guy that lost the first three sets is actually the better player, and they both know it, and the guy who didn't want to double the bet knows he's more likely to lose the next set for $100 than another set for $50. Maybe the guy who's three sets ahead doesn't care about making a "big score." Maybe it's none of our business and he can play for whatever amount he wants to play for.
 
Mad?

Bob Jewett said:
So you're mad at the winner for refusing to raise the bet. Would you also be mad at him if he raised the bet, the other player went up three gears to win the fourth set and the first guy quit half a set winners?
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They are racing to 7, the loser has won no more than 3 games in any set.
They know each other, the guy has no more gears, he's a sucker. I am
not mad I just think he should have busted him. But maybe his sack was full.
Would you have been mad ? No I wasn't mad, sad maybe,happy I don't
think so. You got me so confused about the way I felt I just wish it had never
happened.
jack
 
PoolBum said:
Maybe the guy is comfortable playing for $50 a set, but not for $100. Maybe the guy that lost the first three sets is actually the better player, and they both know it, and the guy who didn't want to double the bet knows he's more likely to lose the next set for $100 than another set for $50. Maybe the guy who's three sets ahead doesn't care about making a "big score." Maybe it's none of our business and he can play for whatever amount he wants to play for.
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Anyone who does not agree to with the points made here really needs to do a personal evaluation of their thought process and ego.
 
The question is not about who has a right to quit or when or who tells who to bet and how much.

Jack Pot is stating a principle that almost every winner follows, if you are ahead and won't Jack the bet,when will you jack it ?

Jack is feigning indignation to add a sense of humor to his remarks
Actually I am sure he doesn't care one way or the other

He just thought to himself that the winners actions were in congruent with
accepted norms of behavior for a person actually trying to win"
 
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Jack never got in their game,he watched,went home surprised at the numb skull play and made the mistake of expecting AZ talkers to pick up on it


people who folllow the practice of not raising the bet when ahead seldom win big is the subject of Jack's thread, not that Jack got involved in someone else business
 
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speed and bets

Reading this thread it would seem the only way to judge somebody's speed is by games or sets won. By the time we have played a little while I have somebody's speed down a whole lot closer than that.

If they are losing and want to change the bet you can take it to the bank I will only let them change to something that suits me better. Raise the bet? Almost always. Double or nothing when they are more than a few bets down? Only when they don't stand a snowball's chance in hell! If they want adjustments of any kind the negotiations are back open and it is time to make a change that is to your benefit.

The person asking for a change always gives the other one control. If the outcome is undecided, keep a tight line. You risk them getting off the hook but you don't risk easily giving back the cash that was hard won. If they are well hooked give them plenty of slack if they want it. Good chance they will do more for you than if you had tried to force the action.

Hu
 
HawaiianEye said:
Maybe the winner was "content" with what he had.

As far as sets go, I'd rather play "by the game", than short sets. If you play three sets and the guy beats you two sets 5-4, 5-4, and you win the third set 5-0, who is the better player? He has won 10 games and you have won 13.

To me, three short sets of 5 prove nothing...especially playing 9-ball or 10-ball.

I've had idiots try to "double up" on me, over and over and over, in the hopes that they can hit something that "evens them out", so they can quit even.

Set a time limit, instead of a number of games. I can play a LOT of games in a few hours and I used to get on rolls and steamroll people. I've played plenty of times where I've got 10, and more games ahead, in a HURRY.

Everybody wants an "edge". My edge was that I would usually "outrun" most of my opponents in the long run. I've been down plenty of money at times, but never quit because I knew that if we played "long enough", I'd come out on top.
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This is my issue- by the game can go forever for not much $..... but do you set a time at the start? part way in?
 
deanoc said:
You are changing the subject of the thread

,Matt





Jack never got in their game,he watched,went home surprised at the numb skull play and made the mistake of expecting AZ talkers to pick up on it





people who folllow the practice of not raising the bet when ahead seldom win big is the subject of Jack's thread, not that Jack got involved in someone else business
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EDIT: Nevermind. I see you were responding to someone else.


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orion21 said:
This is my issue- by the game can go forever for not much $..... but do you set a time at the start? part way in?
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By the game can be for however much you and your opponent are willing to play for.

I normally tell people how long I'm going to play for at the very beginning, but I've played for hours and hours and hours on end.

If you have my money, I'm more than willing to stay and play...even for the same thing we started out playing for. Very very seldom have people ever left with my money, no matter how long we played for.
 
Double or nothing 20$ to start and28 games later Jason hunt beats bald mike out of a measly 2.4 billion dorra!


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Thank Goodness

Luckily there were no beginners, or new players that saw this
happen. I would hate to think that they might believe that letting a
sucker off when you have him ready to go off like a rocket is the
proper way to conduct yourself. Kids now days are so impressionable
we need to be careful.
jack
 
jackpot said:
Luckily there were no beginners, or new players that saw this
happen. I would hate to think that they might believe that letting a
sucker off when you have him ready to go off like a rocket is the
proper way to conduct yourself. Kids now days are so impressionable
we need to be careful.
jack
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While the elderly are inflexible and unable to run basic cost-benefit analysis
 
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