SUPERSTAR said:
You're only 5 letters away from salad tossers, and that's what it looks like you're soliciting.
EDIT:
OK OK Mr. Wilson. I'm on "1", but it was worth it.
Throwing Your Cue....
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You're only 5 letters away from salad tossers, and that's what it looks like you're soliciting.
EDIT:
OK OK Mr. Wilson. I'm on "1", but it was worth it.
It is strange after watching thousands of hours of pool, golf baseball none of them let go of cue, club or bat unless they make a mistake or are pissed.
I watched a guy run a table hitting the CB with the butt, also several times I have seen people run one handed. Hey, it worked for them, maybe I should give it a try.
I watched a guy run a table hitting the CB with the butt, also several times I have seen people run one handed. Hey, it worked for them, maybe I should give it a try.
I think 14.1 would be the last game I would use this on. Nice way to foul. Trying to find the cue (which of coarse your not looking at (right)) while a ball comes out of the stack and hits your shaft.
Now excuse me while I run the balls you so nicely broke up and decide which is my key and break out ball. Thank You very much.
Nick
Now excuse me while I run the balls you so nicely broke up and decide which is my key and break out ball. Thank You very much.
Nick
Flex said:
Nick B said:
There are plenty of shots where the cue stick won't come anywhere near the stack or the balls after the shot.
I think Dave's idea is one for some shots, not every one, and is an arrow that can be useful to have in one's quiver.
It seems to me he was throwing the cue quite exaggeratedly in some shots in the video, to show how it can be done.
If you don't like it, don't use it.
Flex
Nick B said:
I use it every time I play 14.1 ...... never once have I fouled. Now, which one should I use for a break shot and key ball? LMAO
Well, no matter what conclusion you come to on this there is definitely no way you can say it doesn't work. Dave did those long draw shots making the ball and drawing way back down table and scratching in the lower corner pocket. I'm sorry, I'm an SA class player here in Japan, that's between A class and pro, and that is a difficult shot no matter how good your stroke is. You can still make the object ball and not bring the cue ball back to that other corner if the OB goes in the pocket to one side or the other. Dave was hitting the heart of the pocket with both balls, more than once mind you.
We were actually shooting center shots like that the other night, trying to scratch the CB, and out of 5 tries I made the OB every time and only scratched the CB twice. The other A players didn't scratch the CB at all. It's tough.
Now, like I said in an earlier post, this isn't something that I would incorporate into my game, I'm set in my ways, but there is no way to watch that video and say it doesn't have some validity to it.
MULLY
We were actually shooting center shots like that the other night, trying to scratch the CB, and out of 5 tries I made the OB every time and only scratched the CB twice. The other A players didn't scratch the CB at all. It's tough.
Now, like I said in an earlier post, this isn't something that I would incorporate into my game, I'm set in my ways, but there is no way to watch that video and say it doesn't have some validity to it.
MULLY
mullyman said:
Ok, i am not arguing that it might work for some people.
But Spider DID say this
SpiderWebComm said:
So i am saying, make a video of a shot i can't do with my own stroke, and then i will give this technique more credit then i am now.
If someone is gonna toss their cue the entire game, they will effectively empty my pockets.
I need to have it proven to me.
Seeing is believing.
ALSO, i don't want a video of just one shot that was edited after many attempts, i want to see consistency and have the shot repeated time and time again.
SUPERSTAR said:
Well, again, Dave never said that he can do shots that you can't do with your own stroke. His entire point of this is that it is accurate in delivering the cue in a straight line as opposed to when you tighten up and twist the cue, which we all are guilty of from time to time.
Again, I'm not supporting throwing your cue on the table like that. All I'm saying is that from what I saw it does work and it works well. For someone that has a problem with shots like he does on that video it may help them to give it a try.
On a side note, this technique won't be worth much if you're not stroking straight to begin with. I tried it a few times the other night and couldn't make a ball with it. I think I have a twist in my stroke that comes back to center on impact. Not a good habit to have, I know this, but I was gone for quite a few years and really haven't gotten my stroke back since and I'm too lazy to practice like I used to. hehe!!
MULLY
SUPERSTAR said:
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I've NEVER edited one video I've ever posted. Every single one of my videos is unedited from beginning to end.
Do you see a cut line in ANY of my videos?????????? If so, where???
Oh my lord......
OK--- new video coming. Mouth.
EDIT:
Sorry, thought you meant my previous videos were edited. By the way, when you throw your cue, it's MAX action.
Here's a better move. How about you post a few videos of what you consider mac-daddy shots and I'll throw my cue and one-up it. Unedited. Repeatedly.
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Kinister's Shot #1 (w/ cue throwing)
I just made this video an hour ago--- for practice only, wasn't even gonna post it. I setup Kinister's Shot #1 just because I haven't done it in a long time and Scott Lee reminded me about it earlier in the thread.
The results in this video are very conservative. Meaning, I wasn't really in stroke. If I'm clicking, my results are usually far better.
Everyone wanted an extended demonstration, so this is it.
I only watched it one time....
Results:
97% shots made with warp-speed convinction
60% shots made within shot#1 parameters
You will notice I pull away the shots I feel are no good. Some of them - you're prob thinking are definitely good. If the shot made less than 1/4 ball forward revolution--- it was disqualified. I accepted up to 1 ball forward revolution. Some were close. Tally it up.
I threw my cue through each shot like I was trying to spear King Kong in the heart from 300 yards away.
http://www.poolvids.com/view/53/kinister-shot-1-workout/
I just made this video an hour ago--- for practice only, wasn't even gonna post it. I setup Kinister's Shot #1 just because I haven't done it in a long time and Scott Lee reminded me about it earlier in the thread.
The results in this video are very conservative. Meaning, I wasn't really in stroke. If I'm clicking, my results are usually far better.
Everyone wanted an extended demonstration, so this is it.
I only watched it one time....
Results:
97% shots made with warp-speed convinction
60% shots made within shot#1 parameters
You will notice I pull away the shots I feel are no good. Some of them - you're prob thinking are definitely good. If the shot made less than 1/4 ball forward revolution--- it was disqualified. I accepted up to 1 ball forward revolution. Some were close. Tally it up.
I threw my cue through each shot like I was trying to spear King Kong in the heart from 300 yards away.
http://www.poolvids.com/view/53/kinister-shot-1-workout/
I'd like to add that I've seen a few Kinister videos on Youtube, that man is.........passionate for lack of a better term. I've always wanted to get his series of DVD's but after seeing him and how intense he is I don't think I could sit through them.
MULLY
MULLY
mullyman said:
Each ball is setup on the 2nd diamond on the same rail (opposite sides of the side pocket).
You setup the shot so the OB is about 1 ball off the rail and the CB is placed at a position where the shot is dead-straight-in.
The object of the shot is to replace the OB. You have to be within a ball diameter from the OB's position. Stop shots are disqualified - there most be forward progress from the face of the OB. Scott Lee might have more to add / edit from my description--- I'm not a shot #1 expert.
You're not supposed to lag-draw the CB. I think that's cheating. Lag draws should be disqualified. Each shot was struck with 1 tip of low english at high speed.
Hope that helps.
SpiderWebComm said:
Your the one with the camera set up, and the equipment on hand.
Show what you can do.
Lets see some power draw shots, and some sick follows, and inside and outside English positions shots.
Throw your best stuff out there.
If it is good, i will freely admit that it is. I have no problem with giving a compliment where it is deserved, but for this to be something that you want other people to learn and practice, there has to be some reason for it.
AKA, things they can't do normally.
If you manage to do that, i will be impressed, but if not then why on earth would anyone even consider this an option if it can't take them to the next level.
just about a said:
Bert was also playing on a 7' table. Put him on a 9'er and he's hitting them hard too. Otherwise, he's lag-drawing and that's easier than clubbing baby seals.