Tina Pawlowski

What if she was ugly in your opinion?

Sweet Marissa said:
That's disappointing to hear, Don. She has the talent and beauty to pick up the sponsors and go far.
I guess ugly women shouldn't play because they wont get sponsors?
 
bumpypickle said:
What does her beauty (in your opinion) have to do with anything?


Great point! You never see comments on the men's looks, when talking about their game!
 
What does her beauty (in your opinion) have to do with anything?

It's just the way the world works, rightly or wrongly.

Beauty is a big part of the equation when after a sponsor.
 
worriedbeef said:
It's just the way the world works, rightly or wrongly.

Beauty is a big part of the equation when after a sponsor.

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jay helfert said:
Don't you just want to kiss that bald head? :D


Oh hell no... I posted that picture of Grady because I couldn't find a picture of Forsyth...
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a sponsor speaks

I have been an individual's sponsor. The individual was male, I am male and straight. Never-the-less, the way he looked was important. He was reasonably attractive, clean cut, neatly dressed, conducted himself well, and was very popular. He was also in the top rank of competitors although more a top five finisher than a consistent winner. All of these things were equally important. I wasn't going to associate my business name with someone that wasn't liked by the vast majority of people.

Oddly enough, I didn't sponsor a woman in the same form of competition for the same reasons. She was reasonably attractive also and stood out as one of the few women in a male dominated activity. Normally a sponsor's dream and she sought me out seeking sponsorship and presented herself as a professional. However, when I did a little checking I found that she was very unpopular with her fellow competitors, many of whom were my customers, and the fans were sharply divided. Roughly 50/50; fans loved her or hated her. Sponsoring her would have negatively affected my business image.

Everything about a person is important when trying to make a living by competing.

Hu
 
cuechick said:
Great point! You never see comments on the men's looks, when talking about their game!

CC,
I'm going to have to disagree with you on this point.

A good example is Danny Basavich. If you happen to read his biography, you will find that most of his psychological problems have been caused by his weight/appearance. People are judged on their appearance continuously in life; whether they are male or female. I believe it is just noticed more when it involves women; as the issues of chauvinism always arise.
 
Williebetmore said:
CC,
I'm going to have to disagree with you on this point.

A good example is Danny Basavich. If you happen to read his biography, you will find that most of his psychological problems have been caused by his weight/appearance. People are judged on their appearance continuously in life; whether they are male or female. I believe it is just noticed more when it involves women; as the issues of chauvinism always arise.

You tell em Willie! Why just the other day two women made some inappropriate sexual sounds at me while I was minding my own business at the poolroom. It was a terrible experience.
 
A good example?

Williebetmore said:
CC,
I'm going to have to disagree with you on this point.

A good example is Danny Basavich. If you happen to read his biography, you will find that most of his psychological problems have been caused by his weight/appearance. People are judged on their appearance continuously in life; whether they are male or female. I believe it is just noticed more when it involves women; as the issues of chauvinism always arise.
Danny is a good example of what a champion can be. He is very humble and will always make time to talk to anybody. I try very hard in life to not judge by appearance and when it comes to watching Danny play all I think about is how good of a player he is. Who cares if he's heavy? I just want to see good pool.
 
Williebetmore said:
CC,
I'm going to have to disagree with you on this point.

A good example is Danny Basavich. If you happen to read his biography, you will find that most of his psychological problems have been caused by his weight/appearance. People are judged on their appearance continuously in life; whether they are male or female. I believe it is just noticed more when it involves women; as the issues of chauvinism always arise.

Just an anecdotal happening to demonstrate some people's complete disregard for their fellow human. Last summer I was parking to go into a business. The parking lot was in the back and I had to walk around the front to enter. Walking on the sidewalk next to the street, I saw a large woman approaching from the other way. She was around 50 years old and had to be 350lbs. plus. A nice car with the windows rolled down and a POS hanging out the window (18 yo area I'd guess) yells out the window "FAT ASS" as the car sped away. If I was the 6M$Man, I would have chased that car down, dragged that AH out and beat the piss out of him.

I apologized to the lady and she was obviously upset to be embarrassed like that in front of numerous people. What would posses someone to scream out the window like that??? What kind of person does that? What did she do, not cross the street fast enough for these idiots? This was on Connecticut Avenue just before the Beltway(Chevy Chase, MD) a very privileged area indeed. I'll never forget it because I was shocked at that behavior. :mad:
 
bumpypickle said:
Danny is a good example of what a champion can be. I try very hard in life to not judge by appearance.

BP,
Your position on this issue is admirable; and I totally agree.

The point of my post, however, was that not everyone agrees with us. The poster that said men's appearance is never commented on, is in error.

Danny has suffered plenty of indignity and discomfort as a result of his weight; and comments have been frequent, not only on this forum, but in the printed media as well. That's all.
 
unfortunate truth

Fair or not his weight might well cost him endorsements or sponsors. That is reality.

Hu

Williebetmore said:
BP,
Your position on this issue is admirable; and I totally agree.

The point of my post, however, was that not everyone agrees with us. The poster that said men's appearance is never commented on, is in error.

Danny has suffered plenty of indignity and discomfort as a result of his weight; and comments have been frequent, not only on this forum, but in the printed media as well. That's all.
 
Williebetmore said:
BP,
Your position on this issue is admirable; and I totally agree.

The point of my post, however, was that not everyone agrees with us. The poster that said men's appearance is never commented on, is in error.

Danny has suffered plenty of indignity and discomfort as a result of his weight; and comments have been frequent, not only on this forum, but in the printed media as well. That's all.

And definitely, men's looks are noticed all throughout professional sports. Most of the top endorsers are that way BECAUSE they have it all, especially good looks! Tiger, ARod, Jeter, Dwyane Wade, and my all-time favorite, Michael Jordan:D

But the key is not just looks... but a combination of looks, personality and athletic ability. A good endorser appeals to the fans on many levels... it's not just athletic ability because, for example, Tiger Woods has many fans who don't even watch golf, but like him for his personality, looks and philanthropic efforts. Because he is a good ambassador for the sport in general.
 
HouseMan said:
Just an anecdotal happening to demonstrate some people's complete disregard for their fellow human. Last summer I was parking to go into a business. The parking lot was in the back and I had to walk around the front to enter. Walking on the sidewalk next to the street, I saw a large woman approaching from the other way. She was around 50 years old and had to be 350lbs. plus. A nice car with the windows rolled down and a POS hanging out the window (18 yo area I'd guess) yells out the window "FAT ASS" as the car sped away. If I was the 6M$Man, I would have chased that car down, dragged that AH out and beat the piss out of him.

I apologized to the lady and she was obviously upset to be embarrassed like that in front of numerous people. What would posses someone to scream out the window like that??? What kind of person does that? What did she do, not cross the street fast enough for these idiots? This was on Connecticut Avenue just before the Beltway(Chevy Chase, MD) a very privileged area indeed. I'll never forget it because I was shocked at that behavior. :mad:

That is quite shameful of someone to do such a thing but what really caught my eye was "Chevy Chase, MD"... Are you shiating me?
 
DeadPoked said:
That is quite shameful of someone to do such a thing but what really caught my eye was "Chevy Chase, MD"... Are you shiating me?

Not sure what "shiating" means, but if you're wondering if Chevy Chase, MD is infact an actual place , it is. I would guess that the average home in CChase is worth > 1million.
 
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