To all road players: Boston Area Action
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Thanks to the age of modern technology, the pool grapevine disseminates bad news fast. Ronnie Wiseman heard Tony Ruberto's accounting of what transpired and did not have the benefit of hearing Little John's.
Little John and his companion were the ONLY people in his corner at this pool room in Boston. Tony Ruberto had his stakehorse "Eddie" and other comrades in attendance. The 34 dimes in the envelope was placed underneath the table in full view and remained there until SOMEBODY removed it. Because the houseman was deemed as "goofy," the parties elected not to have him hold the post, which is why the envelope was placed where it was.
When most players are engaged in battle in an action game, their focus and concentration is on the game at hand. Little John had only one set of eyeballs which he was using to shoot with. His companion, I heard, fell asleep in his chair off and on during the long set. When Little John came back to even, after Tony Ruberto was on the hill in this 12-ahead set of 9-ball, Little John took a refreshment break by going to the rest room. When he returned is WHEN he noticed the envelope was removed.
Unfortunately, the third member of Little John's crew from Slidel (sp) was en route to Boston when this 12-ahead set transpired.
IMO, seeing Little John lose and win in the past, he certainly is not funny with the money and pays his gambling losses like the gentleman gambler that he is. That's my story and I'm sticking with it!
JAM
Little John and his companion were the ONLY people in his corner at this pool room in Boston. Tony Ruberto had his stakehorse "Eddie" and other comrades in attendance. The 34 dimes in the envelope was placed underneath the table in full view and remained there until SOMEBODY removed it. Because the houseman was deemed as "goofy," the parties elected not to have him hold the post, which is why the envelope was placed where it was.
When most players are engaged in battle in an action game, their focus and concentration is on the game at hand. Little John had only one set of eyeballs which he was using to shoot with. His companion, I heard, fell asleep in his chair off and on during the long set. When Little John came back to even, after Tony Ruberto was on the hill in this 12-ahead set of 9-ball, Little John took a refreshment break by going to the rest room. When he returned is WHEN he noticed the envelope was removed.
Unfortunately, the third member of Little John's crew from Slidel (sp) was en route to Boston when this 12-ahead set transpired.
IMO, seeing Little John lose and win in the past, he certainly is not funny with the money and pays his gambling losses like the gentleman gambler that he is. That's my story and I'm sticking with it!
JAM
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vagabond said:
He wouldn't even be on the pool MAP if that other guy never hit the lottery!
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Superstroke said:
WTF?------
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Perk said:
Not to mention the sums of money he gave him to go get into action.
Superstroke
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Well since you know so much, lets hear what he's done??? How much?? When??
Ya know, Lil Jon aint' no saint himself. I like the comments from people that say "Hang in there Lil Jon, what comes around, goes around".
Well guess what??.........it might have come BACK around from what Lil Jon has done to others here and there.......ever think about that???
TO VAGABOND:
As far as Ronnie poking his nose in anybody's business...I haven't seen him make one post on here about this. What he talked to Tony about was between them and what you're reading is what Lil Jon said. It's NONE of my business or yours what Ronnie and Tony talked about.
Does Lil Jon want people to start posting again about what he's "alleged" to have done? That would suck but it's no different than what he's doing now.
Superstroke said:
Well since you know so much, lets hear what he's done??? How much?? When??
Ya know, Lil Jon aint' no saint himself. I like the comments from people that say "Hang in there Lil Jon, what comes around, goes around".
Well guess what??.........it might have come BACK around from what Lil Jon has done to others here and there.......ever think about that???
TO VAGABOND:
As far as Ronnie poking his nose in anybody's business...I haven't seen him make one post on here about this. What he talked to Tony about was between them and what you're reading is what Lil Jon said. It's NONE of my business or yours what Ronnie and Tony talked about.
Does Lil Jon want people to start posting again about what he's "alleged" to have done? That would suck but it's no different than what he's doing now.
stevelomako said:
Hi, Stevelomako!
Congrats on your fine finish of last week, BTW! 
As I previously posted, I agree that there are THREE sides to this story: Little John's, Tony's, and the TRUTH. None of us posters here on AzBilliards Discussion Forum were present in Boston when the alleged theft [34 dimes underneath the pool table] occurred.
Maybe Tony Ruberto sought counsel from the Detroit seasoned roadster, and if I was in Tony's shoes, I'd be doing the same thing. I'll betcha the "wise man" [pun intended
] advised Tony after the fact, of course, that it was poor judgment relating to the placement of the post.From what I can gather through snippets of conversations on the phone which occurred before, during, and immediately after the incident with involved parties, I truly believe that Little John got ripped off.
Whether it was Tony Ruberto or any of his cohorts cannot be confirmed with any proof at this time.
It could have been a friendly railbird waiting to pounce when nobody was looking.
When players engage in games of high stakes for a lengthy period of time, their concentration and focus is on the game at hand. I've seen strange things happen in these tension-filled scenarios, as I'm sure you have.
I don't think the post, and what happened to it, will ever be revealed, but this should be a wake-up call to those who do engage in games of stake. If it was me and mine, I would have NEVER taken my eyes off that envelope, and it sure wouldn't have been laying on the floor in full view, tempting the scoundrels and scallywags.
An ounce of prevention goes a long way, and the 34 dimes should have NEVER have been placed underneath that table. Hopefully, there's a lesson to be learned, even though, as it turns out, it is a quite expensive one for those who did get ripped off in Boston.
JAM
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senor said:
I actually like him also, I think he's an entertaining guy, he plays decent and loves to GET IN AND CREATE ACTION. Can't help but love a guy like that. Sorry but I'm not a dissatisfied customer.
JAM: Thanks, blind squirrels do finds nuts once in a while LOL.
I think Tony and Ronnie talked for the same reason Jon and Keith did. Young guys looking for advice from the OLD guys.
Steve
Money on the wood makes the game good
Liljon...sad to hear that loss of $17K. I was wondering where was your backer while you were in the washroom? For that kind of money I definitely would have someone from my side constantly looking at the cash.
Liljon...sad to hear that loss of $17K. I was wondering where was your backer while you were in the washroom? For that kind of money I definitely would have someone from my side constantly looking at the cash.
Dissatisfied Customers!!!!!!!!!
The purpose of this initial thread was to let everyone know what happened in Boston to prevent this type of activity from happening again and hopefully to keep as much heat on Tony to make this situation as right as it can be made. Steve, I never said I was a saint but I have never stolen the up money and Senior you live in Houston and we played atleast three times and I always paid unless you busted me and you kept some jewerly when I was 17. There is no dissatisfied customers, I posted 17K and its gone. I'm dissatisfied and I am trying to take the right approach to handle what has already been done that I cannot change. The guy with me fell asleep at some point in the match and I was concentrating so hard on winning that my focus unfortunatly was not on my buddy, Tonys buddys, or the stakes. I never had any problems b/c everywhere I go everyone understands that I'm there to play and if I lose I will pay. As far as Ronnie goes I dont care what he said or who he said it too. My title to the thread was "TOny called" and that was a reproduction of Tony and I converstion that included comments by Ronnie. Steve, please tell me that you dont think Ronnies a saint. If hes a saint its a saint to the "HAILS ANGELS." Tony and I never had a problem until the money came up missing. He didnt try to quit winner, he posted every time we played, he was not an asshole at all to gamble with and I'm sorry that this happened. I would have rather none of this happened but lets try to keep this thread about the "Boston Situation" and not dissatisfied customers,Ronnie WIseman, Poker, and whether or not you believe I'm a decent player or not. THanks-lj
The purpose of this initial thread was to let everyone know what happened in Boston to prevent this type of activity from happening again and hopefully to keep as much heat on Tony to make this situation as right as it can be made. Steve, I never said I was a saint but I have never stolen the up money and Senior you live in Houston and we played atleast three times and I always paid unless you busted me and you kept some jewerly when I was 17. There is no dissatisfied customers, I posted 17K and its gone. I'm dissatisfied and I am trying to take the right approach to handle what has already been done that I cannot change. The guy with me fell asleep at some point in the match and I was concentrating so hard on winning that my focus unfortunatly was not on my buddy, Tonys buddys, or the stakes. I never had any problems b/c everywhere I go everyone understands that I'm there to play and if I lose I will pay. As far as Ronnie goes I dont care what he said or who he said it too. My title to the thread was "TOny called" and that was a reproduction of Tony and I converstion that included comments by Ronnie. Steve, please tell me that you dont think Ronnies a saint. If hes a saint its a saint to the "HAILS ANGELS." Tony and I never had a problem until the money came up missing. He didnt try to quit winner, he posted every time we played, he was not an asshole at all to gamble with and I'm sorry that this happened. I would have rather none of this happened but lets try to keep this thread about the "Boston Situation" and not dissatisfied customers,Ronnie WIseman, Poker, and whether or not you believe I'm a decent player or not. THanks-lj
liljon said:
You wanted me to answer so here are my replies:
(1)-I'm the guy in Detroit you had the "Clown" call when you got broke here and you asked me for 10,000 cause you heard I sent "Jew Paul" money when you two were playing in Mobile.
(2)-Ronnie is no saint either but he's not the one on here talking about this, YOU brought his name into it.
I'm not a saint either and WHAT HAPPENED REALLY DOES SUCK BIG TIME but I don't know what this is going to accomplish posting all this except causing problems.
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The Clown
I never had "Clown" call anybody. Clown loaned me app. 3500.00 to play Kim with because he knew Kim could not win and when I won I straihgtned clown out. I never called you nor did I have any part in the "Clown" calling you. Obviously, Clown saw an oppurtunity to make some money with me and he needed you to participate because his bankroll wasnt strong enough to really take the place off like I eventually did. The whole time I was in Detroit I always paid and posted everytime I played. Your guy, the "WISE GUY" stiffed me the last game for 500.00 atleast twice while I was there and because I was so much winner I never said anything about it to Ronnie. Also, I'm glad you think I'm a decent player b/c this type of talk is what drives me to travel and bust all the other "decent" players in every town I go. Since your from Detroit is there a decent player that I can play even with, I will make flight arrangenments for tomorrow if any "JUST DECENT" players want to play even for REAL HIGH MONEY. I'm not being ugly but we lost app. 40,000 to paul over a period of a month when he was down south and paid every penny of it. Now on the other foot Paul made arrangements to bet the ball with one of my stakehorses down here and stiffed him for app 100,000.00 in bets and Paul and Pauls affiliate in the deal never paid 100.00 of the bill. All this happened around the same time I was in Detroit and that is when Paul went into retirement this last time. Where you involved in any of this???? I can say that other than an accasional air barrell the Detroit crowd was real nice and hopefully you will find me a decent player to play so I can come back real soon.......LJOHN
I never had "Clown" call anybody. Clown loaned me app. 3500.00 to play Kim with because he knew Kim could not win and when I won I straihgtned clown out. I never called you nor did I have any part in the "Clown" calling you. Obviously, Clown saw an oppurtunity to make some money with me and he needed you to participate because his bankroll wasnt strong enough to really take the place off like I eventually did. The whole time I was in Detroit I always paid and posted everytime I played. Your guy, the "WISE GUY" stiffed me the last game for 500.00 atleast twice while I was there and because I was so much winner I never said anything about it to Ronnie. Also, I'm glad you think I'm a decent player b/c this type of talk is what drives me to travel and bust all the other "decent" players in every town I go. Since your from Detroit is there a decent player that I can play even with, I will make flight arrangenments for tomorrow if any "JUST DECENT" players want to play even for REAL HIGH MONEY. I'm not being ugly but we lost app. 40,000 to paul over a period of a month when he was down south and paid every penny of it. Now on the other foot Paul made arrangements to bet the ball with one of my stakehorses down here and stiffed him for app 100,000.00 in bets and Paul and Pauls affiliate in the deal never paid 100.00 of the bill. All this happened around the same time I was in Detroit and that is when Paul went into retirement this last time. Where you involved in any of this???? I can say that other than an accasional air barrell the Detroit crowd was real nice and hopefully you will find me a decent player to play so I can come back real soon.......LJOHN
liljon said:
Sorry to hear what happened to you with the money. I like to bet it up too and would be sick to loose my dough that way. Hope it works out for you in the end.
Have some guys in OH that will play for 5 to 20 large. Even though he's not a gambler I'll make Shawn play you, if you will play him 9-ball on a 9 footer and Corey will play Jesse Bowman on a small table if your interested. If your going to be in Vegas maybe we can work out a game there. Will be able to play for more in OH but I'm sure we can work out a decent game in Vegas. amc4