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To all road players: Boston Area Action
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What happened ?Josh Palmer said:
Barbara said:
40/80 is a poker term, it means is the max bet on the table is $40 x 4 in the first round of betting, 40 x 4 in after the flop and 80 x 4 is the max bet after the turn and the river. Which means in any given hand the most you will have to commit to see everyones cards, if every player bets the max, is $960, although this rarely happens. Generally it only happens in the nuts vs the second best possible hand situation. But i would have to say average pot size, depending on the style of play, would probable be $500 - $1500. In a limit game, you can mathmaticly break even, save the rake, by playing purely using Pot-Odds.
Doh, someone got me started on poker, i'll stop here. If anyone wants to know about pot odds though, i love the conversation.
fxskater said:
Poker forum is around the corner to the left...
No seriously, thanx....I had the same question.Okay i gotta say it. pot-odds is basicly the odds of winning your hand vs the amount being bet, vs the size of the pot. To explain this, I'll give you an example.
Lets say you hold QJ, and 984 (various suits) comes up. Someone in front of you bets $50 and the pot size is roughly $200. Your chances of winning in the next 2 cards is around 5 to 1. (4 outs for the straight, 6 outs for top pair. 10 outs 52 cards 1:5 odds) The pot offer's a 4 to 1 reward, so although you have a decent hand, the Pot-Odds tell you to fold.
Of course, there is more to it than just that as the pot odds change with each bet and card.
Hope you guys can make an understanding on this. Its hard to explain exactly how it works on paper.
I know this is a pool forum, sorry about the rant, but i couldn't help myself.
Lets say you hold QJ, and 984 (various suits) comes up. Someone in front of you bets $50 and the pot size is roughly $200. Your chances of winning in the next 2 cards is around 5 to 1. (4 outs for the straight, 6 outs for top pair. 10 outs 52 cards 1:5 odds) The pot offer's a 4 to 1 reward, so although you have a decent hand, the Pot-Odds tell you to fold.
Of course, there is more to it than just that as the pot odds change with each bet and card.
Hope you guys can make an understanding on this. Its hard to explain exactly how it works on paper.
I know this is a pool forum, sorry about the rant, but i couldn't help myself.
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Several years ago I was in Championship Billiards in Modesto grinding away at a ten dollar golf game while a local shortstop was playing Dave Rodden, aka "Boy George"(how gay is that?). They were playing a race to ten for 2000, the 4 large was posted on the light, in a soda cup. Our local guy was stomping him, up 8 to 1 and running out! Suddenly Boy George grabs the money off the light, screams that he has a gun and will use it, and runs out the door before anyone can stop him! Pure robbery and thuggery! This person, this Dave Rodden, is still playing pool, nobody did anything about it, it made me sick to have to play him in Reno at the bar box tourny a couple months ago. (With great pleasure I whupped him!) Unfortunately degenerates like this exist in the pool world, just like in any segment of society. It's important that we as pool players stick together and watch out for them. What happened to liljon is terrible, and this was clearly a set up...As the opposing player and the host Tony has a responsibility to clean this up, if he doesn't he is obviously in on it. See you all at the BCAs next week! Marc Swisher
nfty9er said:
This is pretty basic poker stuff and i hope anyone that wants to play poker with me knows this stuff at least a little bit. I'm not looking to rob anyone, I'm looking for some decent skilled players to play against, I would gladly lose the $20-$50 if it kept me entertained for a little while.
dogginda9 said:Someone correct me if I'm wrong BUT, didn't Tony's crew have 17K in that envelope too? Tony and his boys should be even more upset than LilJon I would think. Stinks to high heaven of another great pool player being involved in something pretty friggin' rotten.
Couldn't have said it better myself, DD9. What ever you do, LJ, be smart about it.
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Here is the problem, as I see it. Not having been there but from what I understand, I believe the money was never under the table. Assuming, LJ's, friends were there and watching, the only time a switch could have been made was at the time the cash, was/was not, put under the table.
Lil Jon,,,,,,,,this is important, who put the money under the table?
Lil Jon,,,,,,,,this is important, who put the money under the table?
The envelope with the funds was underneath the table in full view. The match, though, was long. Tony Ruberto was accompanied by his hometown cronies and stakehorse, "Eddie." Little John traveled to Boston and only had one companion with him.
The match was long, about 8 hours I heard, and Ruberto got on the hill at one point, but then Little John battled his way back to getting even.
A la Jackie Gleason, Little John, in an attempt to refresh himself, took a rest room break and washed his hands. Upon his return, he noticed at that time that the envelope was missing.
JAM
The match was long, about 8 hours I heard, and Ruberto got on the hill at one point, but then Little John battled his way back to getting even.
A la Jackie Gleason, Little John, in an attempt to refresh himself, took a rest room break and washed his hands. Upon his return, he noticed at that time that the envelope was missing.
JAM
Then there's the three-sides-to-the-story theory: Little John's, Tony's, and the truth. 
It would be interesting to hear Tony Ruberto's version of the events. The fact that he does not return phone calls is very unsettling. If he thought his funds got ripped off in the incident, he'd be wanting to find out as much as he could. The lack of response is very telling (IMO).
JAM
It would be interesting to hear Tony Ruberto's version of the events. The fact that he does not return phone calls is very unsettling. If he thought his funds got ripped off in the incident, he'd be wanting to find out as much as he could. The lack of response is very telling (IMO).
JAM
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Probably already spent..
This sounds like a classic case of a guy with a cocaine habit, huge gambling debts or both. I hate to discourage you but the money is gone. Don't do anything to get yourself in trouble. In my experience guys like that end up as fish food. If he ripped you off, he'll rip someone else off who is not so kind and that will be the end of him. Just cut your losses and justice will eventually be done.
Marcus
This sounds like a classic case of a guy with a cocaine habit, huge gambling debts or both. I hate to discourage you but the money is gone. Don't do anything to get yourself in trouble. In my experience guys like that end up as fish food. If he ripped you off, he'll rip someone else off who is not so kind and that will be the end of him. Just cut your losses and justice will eventually be done.
Marcus
Josh Palmer said:
Ljohn is not the first player to get screwed while taking a piss. Stuff like this happens more than you would think and all it does is kill action. If Tony had something to do with it, the fun will stop when the money runs out. His action is dead - and dead everywhere - until he can prove otherwise. I have written in all of my books that while on the road, you should have few friends and many acquaintences. The nicer somebody is to you, the easier it will be for them to screw you. LilJohn, keep you head up and keep a positive attitude. They'd only do this because they knew they couldn't win it fairly. Your stock will only rise. When its all said and done, you win and he loses.