To all road players: Boston Area Action

Barbara said:
Okay, what's 40/80?

Barbara

40/80 is a poker term, it means is the max bet on the table is $40 x 4 in the first round of betting, 40 x 4 in after the flop and 80 x 4 is the max bet after the turn and the river. Which means in any given hand the most you will have to commit to see everyones cards, if every player bets the max, is $960, although this rarely happens. Generally it only happens in the nuts vs the second best possible hand situation. But i would have to say average pot size, depending on the style of play, would probable be $500 - $1500. In a limit game, you can mathmaticly break even, save the rake, by playing purely using Pot-Odds.

Doh, someone got me started on poker, i'll stop here. If anyone wants to know about pot odds though, i love the conversation.
 
fxskater said:
Doh, someone got me started on poker, i'll stop here. If anyone wants to know about pot odds though, i love the conversation.

Poker forum is around the corner to the left... :D No seriously, thanx....I had the same question.
 
Okay i gotta say it. pot-odds is basicly the odds of winning your hand vs the amount being bet, vs the size of the pot. To explain this, I'll give you an example.

Lets say you hold QJ, and 984 (various suits) comes up. Someone in front of you bets $50 and the pot size is roughly $200. Your chances of winning in the next 2 cards is around 5 to 1. (4 outs for the straight, 6 outs for top pair. 10 outs 52 cards 1:5 odds) The pot offer's a 4 to 1 reward, so although you have a decent hand, the Pot-Odds tell you to fold.

Of course, there is more to it than just that as the pot odds change with each bet and card.

Hope you guys can make an understanding on this. Its hard to explain exactly how it works on paper.

I know this is a pool forum, sorry about the rant, but i couldn't help myself.
 
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Lol

fxskater said:
Okay i gotta say it. pot-odds is basicly the odds of winning your hand vs the amount being bet, vs the size of the pot. To explain this, I'll give you an example.

Lets say you hold QJ, and 984 (various suits) comes up. Someone in front of you bets $50 and the pot size is roughly $200. Your chances of winning in the next 2 cards is around 5 to 1. (4 outs for the straight, 6 outs for top pair. 10 outs 52 cards 1:5 odds) The pot offer's a 4 to 1 reward, so although you have a decent hand, the Pot-Odds tell you to fold.

Of course, there is more to it than just that as the pot odds change with each bet and card.

Hope you guys can make an understanding on this. Its hard to explain exactly how it works on paper.

I know this is a pool forum, sorry about the rant, but i couldn't help myself.

And on another post you want us to matchup in poker in VEGAS. HA
 
Several years ago I was in Championship Billiards in Modesto grinding away at a ten dollar golf game while a local shortstop was playing Dave Rodden, aka "Boy George"(how gay is that?). They were playing a race to ten for 2000, the 4 large was posted on the light, in a soda cup. Our local guy was stomping him, up 8 to 1 and running out! Suddenly Boy George grabs the money off the light, screams that he has a gun and will use it, and runs out the door before anyone can stop him! Pure robbery and thuggery! This person, this Dave Rodden, is still playing pool, nobody did anything about it, it made me sick to have to play him in Reno at the bar box tourny a couple months ago. (With great pleasure I whupped him!) Unfortunately degenerates like this exist in the pool world, just like in any segment of society. It's important that we as pool players stick together and watch out for them. What happened to liljon is terrible, and this was clearly a set up...As the opposing player and the host Tony has a responsibility to clean this up, if he doesn't he is obviously in on it. See you all at the BCAs next week! Marc Swisher
 
Hey Be Patient!!!

liljon said:
Believe me I'm not about to let this go something has got to give and I've been calling Tony for 1 and half days and no answer.I guess if he is going to continue playing pool it will be up north b/c there are some serious people down south upset over this whole deal...... I really like Tony and we got along fine the whole time I was there but this is beyond friends. If he wasnt involved he knows who was involved and we just got word 20 minutes ago that he is at Foxwoods playing 40/80. How can a guy that was broke two days ago play 40/80 today????? The more I think about it it makes me wanna puke and I'm gonna keep typing to stay calm!!! LJOHN
The Right People are reading about this and you will hear from him i gaurentee it! spade lil jon spades. it all will come back to you in time.
BIG
 
nfty9er said:
And on another post you want us to matchup in poker in VEGAS. HA


This is pretty basic poker stuff and i hope anyone that wants to play poker with me knows this stuff at least a little bit. I'm not looking to rob anyone, I'm looking for some decent skilled players to play against, I would gladly lose the $20-$50 if it kept me entertained for a little while.
 
Just kidding

fxskater said:
This is pretty basic poker stuff and i hope anyone that wants to play poker with me knows this stuff at least a little bit. I'm not looking to rob anyone, I'm looking for some decent skilled players to play against, I would gladly lose the $20-$50 if it kept me entertained for a little while.

Does that mean i should bring my chips or do you carry them with you?
 
fxskater said:
This is pretty basic poker stuff and i hope anyone that wants to play poker with me knows this stuff at least a little bit. I'm not looking to rob anyone, I'm looking for some decent skilled players to play against, I would gladly lose the $20-$50 if it kept me entertained for a little while.

Thanks for the info!

BTW - to Lil Jon, what comes around goes around. If this doesn't get settled then I hope something really, really good hooks up with you in the future.

Barbara
 
dogginda9 said:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong BUT, didn't Tony's crew have 17K in that envelope too? Tony and his boys should be even more upset than LilJon I would think. Stinks to high heaven of another great pool player being involved in something pretty friggin' rotten. :(



Couldn't have said it better myself, DD9. What ever you do, LJ, be smart about it.
 
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Here is the problem, as I see it. Not having been there but from what I understand, I believe the money was never under the table. Assuming, LJ's, friends were there and watching, the only time a switch could have been made was at the time the cash, was/was not, put under the table.

Lil Jon,,,,,,,,this is important, who put the money under the table?
 
envelope was gone

hemicudas said:
Here is the problem, as I see it. Not having been there but from what I understand, I believe the money was never under the table. Assuming, LJ's, friends were there and watching, the only time a switch could have been made was at the time the cash, was/was not, put under the table.

Lil Jon,,,,,,,,this is important, who put the money under the table?

In his description of what happened the envelope was gone, not an envelope there with no money in it which if that was the case your scenariio could have been correct.
 
The envelope with the funds was underneath the table in full view. The match, though, was long. Tony Ruberto was accompanied by his hometown cronies and stakehorse, "Eddie." Little John traveled to Boston and only had one companion with him.

The match was long, about 8 hours I heard, and Ruberto got on the hill at one point, but then Little John battled his way back to getting even.

A la Jackie Gleason, Little John, in an attempt to refresh himself, took a rest room break and washed his hands. Upon his return, he noticed at that time that the envelope was missing.

JAM
 
Then there's the three-sides-to-the-story theory: Little John's, Tony's, and the truth. :p

It would be interesting to hear Tony Ruberto's version of the events. The fact that he does not return phone calls is very unsettling. If he thought his funds got ripped off in the incident, he'd be wanting to find out as much as he could. The lack of response is very telling (IMO).

JAM
 
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Probably already spent..

This sounds like a classic case of a guy with a cocaine habit, huge gambling debts or both. I hate to discourage you but the money is gone. Don't do anything to get yourself in trouble. In my experience guys like that end up as fish food. If he ripped you off, he'll rip someone else off who is not so kind and that will be the end of him. Just cut your losses and justice will eventually be done.

Marcus
 
hemicudas said:
Here is the problem, as I see it. Assuming, LJ's, friends were there and watching,


Lil Jon,,,,,,,,this is important, who put the money under the table?

Hi,
I am curious to know the name of his friend from Slidel,LA.
Vagabond
 
Josh Palmer said:
It amazes me at how some people choose to manage their pool playing career... I don't care how good you play pool- if you can't see past your greedy thieving hands, and dump/steal/lie to people- you are a piece of shit in my book, and you got no respect from me. It's unbelievable how many up and coming young players have 'talent' to play this game, yet zero brains. You want to make one big score? Guess what buddy, that's it. Some people don't deserve to have any action for the rest of their life. Then they can ask themselves if they really like playing pool for playing the game that they worked so hard to become good at. I won't name any names, but I can count a few of these type of people who walk around with a chip on their shoulder because they are skilled in pool, and got a name. Well I grew up in the country, and we base our friendships and respect for one another on merit, and size of heart. In all accounts, I don't know Lil John, but he is managing his career quite well, with the exception of a hiccup here, but to see someone doing it on the up and up- then getting screwed in the ass makes me sick too. I like action, gambling, and gamblers, but I despise thieves, and it looks like you got one in Baltimore.

Ljohn is not the first player to get screwed while taking a piss. Stuff like this happens more than you would think and all it does is kill action. If Tony had something to do with it, the fun will stop when the money runs out. His action is dead - and dead everywhere - until he can prove otherwise. I have written in all of my books that while on the road, you should have few friends and many acquaintences. The nicer somebody is to you, the easier it will be for them to screw you. LilJohn, keep you head up and keep a positive attitude. They'd only do this because they knew they couldn't win it fairly. Your stock will only rise. When its all said and done, you win and he loses.
 
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