To Tell or Not To Tell? This is the question.

BCAPL rules clearly state that if you do not call the foul immediately and your opponent takes another shot...he is clear to continue shooting as if the foul never happened, until he actually does foul, or the game is over.

BCAPL Rules 1.23 Fouls Not Called

Any foul not called before the next stroke is taken is considered to have not occurred. The failure to call a foul on any previous shot does not restrict the ability to call a similar foul on any future shot.

As for myself...in a friendly tournament, I'll forewarn my opponent all day long before the foul actually takes place. Although, there is a player or two I might not simply because they are jerks.

Lisa
 
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9BallMarksman said:
Sounds unlikely. No offense, just seems like that's a little far-fetched.
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No Offence taken, like I said this was a story that someone told me.
I have no idea if it is true or not but I thought I would throw it out there
to see what would come of it.
 
I don't know what's in my opponent's head most of the time. People look at shots all the time and I don't interupt and tell them they are on the 4. If I do notice it (sometimes I'm not paying attention curses ADD) I'll wait until I am sure you're really going to hit the wrong ball and I'll tell you before you pull the trigger.

I've had this foul called on me and the guy just watched me F up and then called foul. This has happened on more than one occasion with different opponents.

It is my responsibility to know what I am supposed to shoot. It is my responsibility to pay attention to the game and to what my opponent is doing.
It is not my responsibility to tell you what ball you are shooting every time I miss. Can you imagine ending every turn with "you're on the three ball"?


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DelaWho??? said:
I don't know what's in my opponent's head most of the time. People look at shots all the time and I don't interupt and tell them they are on the 4. If I do notice it (sometimes I'm not paying attention curses ADD) I'll wait until I am sure you're really going to hit the wrong ball and I'll tell you before you pull the trigger.

I've had this foul called on me and the guy just watched me F up and then called foul. This has happened on more than one occasion with different opponents.

It is my responsibility to know what I am supposed to shoot. It is my responsibility to pay attention to the game and to what my opponent is doing.
It is not my responsibility to tell you what ball you are shooting every time I miss. Can you imagine ending every turn with "you're on the three ball"?


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What you are saying is true.
At the end of the day I have to live with myself.
I have always thought of this as a sportsmanship issue
or to me it's like when a cashier accidentally over pays you
when making change. I am not there to do her job for her
but just the same I will correct her because it''s just the right thing to do.
 
jmurphy said:
What you are saying is true.
At the end of the day I have to live with myself.
I have always thought of this as a sportsmanship issue
or to me it's like when a cashier accidentally over pays you
when making change. I am not there to do her job for her
but just the same I will correct her because it''s just the right thing to do.
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All I am saying is that I am not going to interupt someones preshot routine until I a certain they are on the wrong ball. Just as in 8 ball you would tell someone to shoot stripes if they are obviously going to shoot solids.

I always give back when I don't get the correct change. Change for a $20 when you paid with a $5 can cost someone their job...


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9BallMarksman said:
Sounds unlikely. No offense, just seems like that's a little far-fetched.
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When I took the ACS National Referee's course a few years ago, I was told that story as part of the course. That is supposed to be the correct ruling. Takes a big set to call it though!

Brian in VA
 
jmurphy said:
Playing a 9Ball match and you local Bar Tourney.
Your opponent is clearly shooting the wrong ball such as being lined up
ready to shoot the 5ball with the 4ball still on the table.

Do you let him shoot the 5, call foul and take ball in hand on the 4?

.........................................OR...............................................

Do you stop him and say, hey buddy you might want to hit the 4 first?



As for me, I will stop him and let him know he is shooting the wrong ball.
I have done a few times on bar tourneys and I even did it in one of my
matches this year at the ACS.
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depends on what the pay out is and who i'm playing. is it hill hill? can the guy run 1 rack or does he b/r a lot? is he a friend of mine? most importantly, am i supposed to win?

there's a good chance that if 1st place is more than my entry fee i'm not saying anything!
 
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DelaWho??? said:
All I am saying is that I am not going to interupt someones preshot routine until I a certain they are on the wrong ball. Just as in 8 ball you would tell someone to shoot stripes if they are obviously going to shoot solids.

I always give back when I don't get the correct change. Change for a $20 when you paid with a $5 can cost someone their job...


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chances are it'll cost 'em a job they're not that good at anyway,lol. the giant calculator that holds money wasn't enough to help 'em solve the "what's the correct change for a $5 riddle" then it might not be meant to be

unless they give me the change for a hundo i always give it back too
 
jmurphy said:
I did hear a story but let me stress this is hearsay so I can't verify it.

Singles Mens Open 8Ball (National or Regional tournament not sure)

Player A:
Breaks the balls but he had accidentally place the cue ball
outside the Kitchen when breaking.

Player B:
Noticed this issue before the break took place but sat
smiling in his chair and lets player A break from outside the kitchen,
and then yells foul.

Player A:
Calls the Ref. over to talk about it.

Ref:
Asks Player B to describe what happened.

Player B:
Tells Ref that Player A placed the ball outside the kitchen and then
broke the balls.

Ref:
Asks Player B if he noticed this before the break happened.

Player B:
Says YES

Ref:
Asks Player B if he notified Player A

Player B:
Says NO I waited until after Player A broke to call a foul.

Ref:
Calls un-sportsmen like conduct on Player B &
forfeits the match to Player A.
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that doesn't make sense. what's to stop player A from saying "not it wasn't".
 
Golf etiquette

randyg said:
I think that you are doing him a better long range favor by letting him shoot.
You snooze-You looze....SPF=randyg
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randyg-I agree.

That is certainly the case when playing 'Golf' on the 5x10/6x12.

Shooting at and/or hitting the wrong ball costs the price of the game
($5,10,20,50?), paid to the hittee. After paying-the most you will get is 'I wondered why you were shooting at my ball? but thanks.

This penalty does serve to improve your focus. But, then-'golf' is somewhat a cutthroat game.

In rotation games-I have received/given both treatments-sort of depends on the situation/personalities involved.
 
I'm color blind... the 2,4 look the same and the 3,6,7 balls look the same. Please tell me if I'm lined up wrong. (if you don't, my bad for not looking at the numbers, but please tell me.)
 
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