Tournament Directors (Jay, others).......? new breaking rule.
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I run a tour in Texas and have the past 2 years. We have put the 9 on the spot and it makes a huge difference. Makes the packages less and the matches closer.
The us open racked the 9 on the spot this year I think and they broke from he box, makes it tougher, which is good.
The us open racked the 9 on the spot this year I think and they broke from he box, makes it tougher, which is good.
For the 2012 U.S. Open 9-Ball, they did break from the box, but the 1-ball was on the foot spot. Also: the winner broke and racked his own with the 2-ball in the back, the 9-ball spotted if it went in either of the two foot-rail pockets, and at least 3 balls had to pass mid-table or be pocketed.
Break from the head spot only....make the head spot a little larger than the foot spot. KIS
For many years, I considered the break shot completely luck...in as far as calling a ball and pocket at least. I still think that way with a full rack. But now, at least with a 9-ball rack, some have worked on the break and figured out how to reliably make a ball...the same ball...nearly evey time. Their work has paid off. And that is a definite advantage in a match.
Now, you want to take all that work away from those that have worked so hard to perfect this break. It is no secret how it's done and there are no illegal tricks used to do so. No one is tilting the rack, leaving a gap between certain balls or placing the spot ball anywhere but on the spot. I'd call this progress in the game of 9-ball.
I can see making the playing surface level for everyone, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. If one player can make a ball and his opponent can not, maybe the opponent needs to work on his break shot. Don't punish the player that has worked on his game to get it better. The opponent has the same oppotunity to make the same ball on his break.
Let the kids play. Let them watch and learn. Give them a goal. Let them learn how to jump a ball, masse around a ball and make the 1 on the break. Punishing those that work hard and accomplish something isn't the answer.
Just my humble opinion....Ken
Now, you want to take all that work away from those that have worked so hard to perfect this break. It is no secret how it's done and there are no illegal tricks used to do so. No one is tilting the rack, leaving a gap between certain balls or placing the spot ball anywhere but on the spot. I'd call this progress in the game of 9-ball.
I can see making the playing surface level for everyone, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. If one player can make a ball and his opponent can not, maybe the opponent needs to work on his break shot. Don't punish the player that has worked on his game to get it better. The opponent has the same oppotunity to make the same ball on his break.
Let the kids play. Let them watch and learn. Give them a goal. Let them learn how to jump a ball, masse around a ball and make the 1 on the break. Punishing those that work hard and accomplish something isn't the answer.
Just my humble opinion....Ken
Well it's not too hard to figure out why so many people started playing 10 ball.
I agree 100% Fran........
The truth is, the reason why professionals often choose not to break hard has more to do with the BIH rule than anything else. 20 years ago, when fouls on the break resulted in behind the line shots, players would crush the rack. Since Texas Express rules went into effect, the penalty for fouling on the pro level is basically a loss of game. If a player knows they are going to pocket a ball 10% less often by breaking soft yet can eliminate 70% of their fouls, they're going to break soft.
Even on the amateur level, fouling on the break is the polar opposite of making 2 balls and getting perfect position. When you're preparing for your 30 mph sledgehammer break, you have to ask yourself which do you do more? I'm willing to bet most people that try to break that hard foul more often than they make 2 balls with shape.
Even on the amateur level, fouling on the break is the polar opposite of making 2 balls and getting perfect position. When you're preparing for your 30 mph sledgehammer break, you have to ask yourself which do you do more? I'm willing to bet most people that try to break that hard foul more often than they make 2 balls with shape.
Yep, golfers break/tee from the same small area, it's time.... No no I want to tee off twenty yards to the left, I got a better shot from there....:thumbup:
Definitely we need to change the rules to encourage heavy force and randomness. After all, it's not like pool is a game of precision. It's a game of banging balls at warp speed and hoping for a good outcome.
We can't let players ruin the break shot with practice or skill, we need to add more luck to a game that clearly doesn't have enough.
This will reduce the number of packages, which spectators hate anyway, and the extra added luck should make the game fairer for the pros.
We can't let players ruin the break shot with practice or skill, we need to add more luck to a game that clearly doesn't have enough.
This will reduce the number of packages, which spectators hate anyway, and the extra added luck should make the game fairer for the pros.
lol this is definitly the answer
I agree totally. Because your opponent banks better do you not allow him to bank?
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Breaking from the center stops the corner ball and makes the break more challenging
Breaking from the center stops the corner ball and makes the break more challenging overall. The soft break won't work so you have to break hard. I think they tried this (at Earl Stickland's request) but I'm not sure why it didn't catch on. I don't think the pros would object to this, I sure wouldn't.
Breaking from the center stops the corner ball and makes the break more challenging overall. The soft break won't work so you have to break hard. I think they tried this (at Earl Stickland's request) but I'm not sure why it didn't catch on. I don't think the pros would object to this, I sure wouldn't.
