Under the Radar

Rhea

Retired Road Player
Silver Member
I believe it is no longer possible to stay under the radar for anyone to make money anymore. The only possibility would be to never play in any league, tournament, or gamble anyone who has a rating already. That would limit you to playing nobodies for life.
 
I believe it is no longer possible to stay under the radar for anyone to make money anymore. The only possibility would be to never play in any league, tournament, or gamble anyone who has a rating already. That would limit you to playing nobodies for life.
Funny but I take the comment "under the radar" to mean "find some person who doesn't know me so I can sucker him/her into a game they have no chance winning". Also known as "Hustling".

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I believe it is no longer possible to stay under the radar for anyone to make money anymore. The only possibility would be to never play in any league, tournament, or gamble anyone who has a rating already. That would limit you to playing nobodies for life.

You should do just fine.
 
First, you could empty all the pockets of even a good pool room and come out with less than a couple hundred bucks. I mean the possibilities are so dismal it's seriously tough to even think about it. That's why we get champions playing each other I think, not because they want to. They probably don't. It's because it is the only way.

Just forget any sort of money making venture when it comes to pool altogether.

I honestly don't think playing very good pool requires too much spare time after the first five or so years of constant play and competition. It's not like you need to be in a pool hall 24/7 to play great pool. We just think that because all the great players are in there that much, but it's really because of their mindset. If my son really wanted to be a pool player I'd let him get past those first five years, and then find a career that isn't so time intensive. There are many small business opportunities that could work well for pool players. But just forget pool as any sort of reliable income no matter how you approach it. Seriously I mean we're talking guys aren't even getting by on top ramen and splitting 40 dollar hotel rooms three ways. Imagine if somebody wanted a retirement fund and a college savings for his kids lol.
 
First, you could empty all the pockets of even a good pool room and come out with less than a couple hundred bucks. I mean the possibilities are so dismal it's seriously tough to even think about it. That's why we get champions playing each other I think, not because they want to. They probably don't. It's because it is the only way.

Just forget any sort of money making venture when it comes to pool altogether.

I honestly don't think playing very good pool requires too much spare time after the first five or so years of constant play and competition. It's not like you need to be in a pool hall 24/7 to play great pool. We just think that because all the great players are in there that much, but it's really because of their mindset. If my son really wanted to be a pool player I'd let him get past those first five years, and then find a career that isn't so time intensive. There are many small business opportunities that could work well for pool players. But just forget pool as any sort of reliable income no matter how you approach it. Seriously I mean we're talking guys aren't even getting by on top ramen and splitting 40 dollar hotel rooms three ways. Imagine if somebody wanted a retirement fund and a college savings for his kids lol.

Not sure where you're from; BUT, while it definitely is not like it used to be there are still plenty of people with real fat pockets and still many high $$$ dollar action matches. Difference is now the action is between people that know each other, know it's good action ( not shooting a toothpick at a lumber yard etc). And for the record it's much more rare to see " champions " playing each other than otherwise. They would MUCH rather play the guy with a pocket full and spot them the 5 out or 15-4 or whatever.
 
Right again my friend!

Not sure where you're from; BUT, while it definitely is not like it used to be there are still plenty of people with real fat pockets and still many high $$$ dollar action matches. Difference is now the action is between people that know each other, know it's good action ( not shooting a toothpick at a lumber yard etc). And for the record it's much more rare to see " champions " playing each other than otherwise. They would MUCH rather play the guy with a pocket full and spot them the 5 out or 15-4 or whatever.

Just come to Houston or New Orleans with a pocket full and we'll help you lighten it. The Action isn't like the old days, but say the wrong thing and you will get played.
 
I believe it is no longer possible to stay under the radar for anyone to make money anymore. The only possibility would be to never play in any league, tournament, or gamble anyone who has a rating already. That would limit you to playing nobodies for life.

yes social media will catch up to you sooner or later been that way for yrs now ,


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Not sure where you're from; BUT, while it definitely is not like it used to be there are still plenty of people with real fat pockets and still many high $$$ dollar action matches. Difference is now the action is between people that know each other, know it's good action ( not shooting a toothpick at a lumber yard etc). And for the record it's much more rare to see " champions " playing each other than otherwise. They would MUCH rather play the guy with a pocket full and spot them the 5 out or 15-4 or whatever.

That's true but thier pockets didn't get fat from pool and most players playing big aren't using thier money. anyway


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Well thats not so..,

That's true but thier pockets didn't get fat from pool and most players playing big aren't using thier money. anyway


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Players bet what they have.., You cant bet big Money if you don't have it. If two backers want to put cash up to see two champs go at it, then let the games begin.

Its always been that way in Pool, Buddy Hall had backers all the time , yet no one doubted his gamble.., Everyone rants and raves about Willie Mosconi, did he ever bet his own?
 
That's true but thier pockets didn't get fat from pool and most players playing big aren't using thier money. anyway


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The champions no, that's correct. But in general they're are plenty of people that hit a " score " and have fat pockets and send it in. This thread wasn't specific to champions, so all the rest of us are included. Now if u wanna say many who bet big - the money didn't come from pool when then yeah of course. It has to come from somewhere and that's how it's always been.
 
Are there any unknown jack Cooneys left?

I think the answer to that may be "unknown", however I don't think there are many people going on the road and winning tons of money, from town to town, anymore.

Back in the day (before cell phones and the internet), there were quite a few who managed to do this for a while and stay above the poverty level or what a low paying job would provide. Some of the better ones made a bit more, but money was never guaranteed and you could go days without a big score.
 
Players bet what they have.., You cant bet big Money if you don't have it. If two backers want to put cash up to see two champs go at it, then let the games begin.

Its always been that way in Pool, Buddy Hall had backers all the time , yet no one doubted his gamble.., Everyone rants and raves about Willie Mosconi, did he ever bet his own?

In the early 70's, Buddy Hall was a road player. He came to Beenies room by himself.
He beat every good player there....Larry Loscotti, Richie Florence, Mike Corillo (spelling? , and last , Jimmy Rempe. He spotted all of them except Richie.
He played on his own money. No reason to split the cash when you beat
all comers! Don't know about later, I left pool for 9 years.
Most players I saw in the 70's played on their own money or had a 'road' partner.
 
I believe it is no longer possible to stay under the radar for anyone to make money anymore. The only possibility would be to never play in any league, tournament, or gamble anyone who has a rating already. That would limit you to playing nobodies for life.

I believe it may be possible for decent (yet outside Europe unknown) european player to come over to US and if he/she is careful enough/not too cocky he MAY be able to stay under radar for a while given some luck and usage of false name/names. But it would be just a matter of time (i am guessing few weeks at most) for someone to reveal his/her true identity anyway, the world became too small with social media... :wink:
 
So are none of these "want to stay under the radar" players actually good enough to play even or give up the right spot?
 
Not sure where you're from; BUT, while it definitely is not like it used to be there are still plenty of people with real fat pockets and still many high $$$ dollar action matches. Difference is now the action is between people that know each other, know it's good action ( not shooting a toothpick at a lumber yard etc). And for the record it's much more rare to see " champions " playing each other than otherwise. They would MUCH rather play the guy with a pocket full and spot them the 5 out or 15-4 or whatever.

And there it is...
No Subterfuge... no surprises, just a couple grinders locking horns with a fair game they both agree upon. The player that keeps their junk together more than their opponent wins. I love to see matches like this. People lament and gnash teeth over the impossibility of anonymity as a "HUSTLAHHHHHH" grow up. You aren't getting a pony for your birthday. Pony..... Not Yours.

Get out into the big bad world and toss your genitalia on the table. Make a game and win. Simple.

Lesh
 
I believe it is no longer possible to stay under the radar for anyone to make money anymore. The only possibility would be to never play in any league, tournament, or gamble anyone who has a rating already. That would limit you to playing nobodies for life.

That gambling ship left the harbor when the Internet came to the fore. ;)
 
That gambling ship left the harbor when the Internet came to the fore. ;)

I think that gambling is quite alive in some areas, it is hustling which is almost extinct and I firmly believe it is for the good of the SPORT. ;)
 
I think that gambling is quite alive in some areas, it is hustling which is almost extinct and I firmly believe it is for the good of the SPORT. ;)

I don't see much gambling anymore. It's more like a barkfest of people trying to get a lock. People don't want to gamble. They want a sure thing, so they negotiate a handicap, hoping to get a sure thing, knowing they've got a lock.

I would love to witness a gambling match where both sides are even, playing even, but some of today's challenge matches are somebody looking for the other party to drop their wallet. I don't consider that gambling. :grin:
 
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