Unity cues!

should they tell who they are?

  • yes we should know who builds them!

    Votes: 86 66.2%

  • no, it don't matter as long as it's a nice cue

    Votes: 44 33.8%
  • Total voters
    130
  • Poll closed .
dukeboy1977

dukeboy1977

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I'm speaking for alot of guys out there in the billiards world when I ask: WHO THE HECK ARE YOU GUYS?!?!? You don't need to be afraid to tell anyone. You are free to make whatever cue you want to and sell it for what you want to no matter what. These cues bear NO name, NO logo, and NO marking of any kind that I've seen on mine, so there is no way to distinguish it as your regular cues if it IS made by an 'established' cue-maker like I'm told it is. I guess a name is worth a little more money to prove it was made by a certain individual, so man up and say who you are! How is anyone supposed to get extra shafts or work done to them if need be? Where does any kind of warranty come into play? I need a weight bolt for mine...Can you send ME one? I personally like mine and it was a good deal I guess...BUT a little info on who the heck you are would sure be nice. How are we to know that you aren't some hack-job out there making cues? You could be anyone, you know this! Maybe I should have held out for something marked by a 'proud' maker willing to sign it or put his logo onto it? After thinking about this, I won't buy another one for anyone unless something is done to know who you are for sure. There are rumors about who you are but rumors are just that...rumors, and I want FACTS as do alot of others before THEY spend their hard earned money on one
 
here's what i think. there are only a few reasons why they would not disclose who makes the cues. maybe they have customers who have been waiting a long time for their cues and would be pissed off if they found out the cuemakers are turning out plain janes quickly and not working on the customers orders. maybe the cuemakers just need money and think this is a quick way to make a few bucks turning out cues that build fast. maybe they are nobodies and this is a ruse to make everyone think they are well-known. maybe they have had bad issues in the past and this is the way of getting around them. maybe they are importing cheap cues from overseas and passing them off as their own.

can anyone give me a good reason why they won't disclose who they are?

as for myself, i will not buy a product from someone who will not be proud enough of their work to tell everyone who made them. have we not seen way too many scams here on az already??

all opinions expressed are my own.

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I think the secrecy thing is retarded. If you buy an "unknown" cue and it plays like crap, you can't even sell it to the cuemaker's loyal fans. And since the identities aren't known before you buy, you have no frame of reference as to how said cuemaker's cues normally play. As to whether or not they SHOULD disclose who they are, I'm torn. It's as if they're trying to fool people into buying because, afterall... it COULD be a Searing. Right??? No. It's not. Not even close. And since there is no point of contact for any issues with the cue other than a guy named Tommie who is vouched for by 50 guys I never heard of, its essentially a $300 gamble.

If the cuemakers had lists, then they're essentially screwing over their customers. If they choose to remain anonymous because (as stated on the website) if they revealed their names they would HAVE to charge more, I say bull-sh*t. Frankly, I know who they are and, to be fair, the prices are exactly what I would expect to pay if it had either of their names on it. There are no 'steals' here.

The reason I say I'm torn is because A) they could be screwing over customers on their own lists so yeah. They should reveal themselves, but... B) I think if people knew, demand for these cues may drop off a little. That's not to say these two guys are hacks. Not at all. But a plain Jane for $300 is about what I'd expect to pay if it had one of their names on it. If it had the other... dunno. Maybe the same. Maybe less. But having experience with some of one of the individual's NAMED cues, I'd pass at $300. As for the other guy, if it weren't for him posting his cues on AZ, i likely wouldn't know him at all. But that's just me.
 
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I'm 100% sure they are being made by George Balabuska and Burton Spain in heaven of all places........once a week an angel flies down with the next batch delivering them wrapped in cotton candy..........

I also have heard that the "A" joint is made of adamantium
 
You said it plays well, so why complain over $300 b/c a name isn't on it? Maybe it's a well respected custom cue maker who doesn't wanna cheapen their brand with $300 cues. :) If you're looking for resellability, you're digging where there are no tators with $300 cues.

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mia said:
I think the secrecy thing is retarded. If you buy an "unknown" cue and it plays like crap, you can't even sell it to the cuemaker's loyal fans. And since the identities aren't known before you buy, you have no frame of reference as to how said cuemaker's cues normally play. As to whether or not they SHOULD disclose who they are, I'm torn. It's as if they're trying to fool people into buying because, afterall... it COULD be a Searing. Right??? No. It's not. Not even close. And since there is no point of contact for any issues with the cue other than a guy named Tommie who is vouched for by 50 guys I never heard of, its essentially a $300 gamble.

If the cuemakers had lists, then they're essentially screwing over their customers. If they choose to remain anonymous because (as stated on the website) if they revealed their names they would HAVE to charge more, I say bull-sh*t. Frankly, I know who they are and, to be fair, the prices are exactly what I would expect to pay if it had either of their names on it. There are no 'steals' here.

The reason I say I'm torn is because A) they could be screwing over customers on their own lists so yeah. They should reveal themselves, but... B) I think if people knew, demand for these cues may drop off a little. That's not to say these two guys are hacks. Not at all. But a plain Jane for $300 is about what I'd expect to pay if it had one of their names on it. If it had the other... dunno. Maybe the same. Maybe less. But having experience with some of one of the individual's NAMED cues, I'd pass at $300. As for the other guy, if it weren't for him posting his cues on AZ, i likely wouldn't know him at all. But that's just me.
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OK Mia, if you're so knowledgeable, PM me who makes them please. I've heard rumors but I've only heard from a couple people. I'd like to hear again so I could confirm at least 1 of the guys for my own benefit. Maybe they could help me get a weight bolt?
 
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OK Mia, if you're so knowledgeable, PM me who makes them please. I've heard rumors but I've only heard from a couple people. I'd like to hear again so I could confirm at least 1 of the guys for my own benefit. Maybe they could help me get a weight bolt?
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Its not my place to reveal the names. I may reveal it to a friend or two, or to people I know and respect. But given your condescending tone and the fact that, well, you're Jeff Duke, I'll tell ya what I WILL do for ya...

Tell me the name that you think you know (via PM). If its right, I'll verify.

- B <---------- knows Jeff well enough to know that no matter how 'great' the cue plays, it'll be for sale in a week.
 
Yes and pls include a birth certificate and SS#. Your mother's maiden name would be icing on the cake. Pls. hurry he needs that weight bolt ASAP.
 
JohnPT said:
Yes and pls include a birth certificate and SS#. Your mother's maiden name would be icing on the cake. Pls. hurry he needs that weight bolt ASAP.
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LOL. I'm not even sure he really wants to know.

I gave him a chance to see if his guess was right but he PM'd me to say:

"That's not what I asked for."

Sorry Jeff. Guess you'll have to get that weightbolt from someone who isn't afraid to give you his name.

-B <------- still kinda suprised that this info is still a secret
 
Orly?!?

mia said:
Its not my place to reveal the names. I may reveal it to a friend or two, or to people I know and respect. But given your condescending tone and the fact that, well, you're Jeff Duke, I'll tell ya what I WILL do for ya...

Tell me the name that you think you know (via PM). If its right, I'll verify.

- B <---------- knows Jeff well enough to know that no matter how 'great' the cue plays, it'll be for sale in a week.
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Oh so you think you know me then? Via PM you wanted ME to tell YOU who they were and you'd verify? lol Not a chance! This gives me NO confidence in your telling the truth about knowing who they are. You, Mia, seem to be nothing more than a plain ol' liar. Take your little troll self elsewhere!

p.s. You expect that it will be for sale in a week do you? Where do you know ME from? You know nothing about me, believe that. No matter what you think you know, you know nothing about me. I'm assuming this is just another account for Marissa Yi, as she always wanted to just be a pain in my ass too. Go away, you're not wanted here.
 
I believe that a cuemaker can make, market and sell his cues in anyway he chooses :eek:. It is up to the individual if he or she wants to purchase.
The company will succeed or fail based primarily on these decisions.
If you purchase a Lucasi or a McDermott cue do you know who the cuemaker is that made your cue? No, you only know the company, why should it be any different with Unity cues?

If you're not happy about the lack of full disclosure, don't buy their cues!
If your unsure of the quality, contact people on AZ that have purchased one and get their feedback. Word of mouth will spread (as it already has)about the quality of their cues as well as how they stand behind them.

Has anyone purchased a Walgreens brand medication instead of the name brand to save a few dollars? If it was public knowledge which name brand co. made the product for Walgreens to put their name on it how well do you think that same company's brand would sell sitting on the shelf next to the Walgreen's brand which sells for a few dollars less?

Whatever the reason behind not disclosing the cuemakers, it is a business decision and they have the right to run their business the best way they see fit. If it bothers anyone that much, move on to another cuemaker, there is no shortage of them.
 
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dukeboy1977 said:
p.s. You expect that it will be for sale in a week do you? Where do you know ME from? You know nothing about me, believe that. No matter what you think you know, you know nothing about me. I'm assuming this is just another account for Marissa Yi, as she always wanted to just be a pain in my ass too. Go away, you're not wanted here.
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Jeff-
You're not the only person on this forum that has had another screen-name at one poin or another (duke.neo@ whatever).

I've been around AZ a loooooong time. Long enough to know that you have an affinity for Bob Dzuricky cues. And that many times you've posted pics of a new one swearing it would be a keeper and go with you to your grave.

A month later... it's in the for sale section. Rest assured Jeff... I know the names. Plenty of people do. If you suspect you know one of them, PM me. I'll confirm or deny. If you have no clue, well tha wouldn't surprise me either. But I won't publicly out them just to satisfy you.
 
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mia knows who they are. I know too, and as I'm not experienced enough with the two cuemakers to comment on the value, I'll refrain. I do know that the normal prices for similar cues from the two cuemakers are around $450-550 depending on options, but I've also noticed that the couple of cues I've looked into have taken quite a while to sell at that price.

I think the mystery thing was a terrible idea. They could have just come out and said "We're starting a new joint venture and calling it Unity cues, and it won't impact our current orders at all." and it would have avoided ALL the annoyances associated with staying under cover.
 
think most people who cared found who they were, at least within a 99% surety who was making the cues. I think its a bad marketing move personally, but then what do I know. If it works for them, then who cares. Sure 4 years from now, when the two guys don't get along and you need a shaft made it could be a issue.
 
For who's making them, $300 is a great price for the cues. My feeling is-- if you can get weight bolts - great - if not, that's why it's $300. I'm sure you can bring those cues to your local custom maker and he could give you a weight bolt that fits.

Like some others, I'm surprised this is still a secret.
 
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For who's making them, $300 is a great price for the cues. My feeling is-- if you can get weight bolts - great - if not, that's why it's $300. I'm sure you can bring those cues to your local custom maker and he could give you a weight bolt that fits.

Like some others, I'm surprised this is still a secret.
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Well, I'm sure I have figured out for sure who makes them, and it seems to be a decent price for the cues having been made by them. I was just looking for some confirmation of my assumption, and kinda got it earlier. Thanks, and I'll get a weight bolt elsewhere.
 
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Why not just contact the dealer you bought the cue from and ask for a weight bolt. Or, PM Unity Cues directly on here and ask them for one. Or for the thread size so you can get one. How would you go about getting a weight bolt for any other cue?

Personally, I don't think knowing the names of the makers is that big of a deal. I know the name of the company is Unity Custom Cues. I don't know the names of the makers at Schon, or Mezz, or Southwest, or a dozen other cue making shops. I just know about their product and reputation. Just my .02.
 
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I've seen quite a few matches over there years where guys beat people with mops & brooms...I don't recall any of them asking what the makers of them were..lol...Scotty Townsend beat a guy years back...Told him he would climb the tree outside the poolhall and chop him a limb and play him with it...Scotty was so drunk I don't think he even knew what kind of tree it was :grin:
 
I don't think it really matters who built them, except for the fact that when they were just starting out they bragged they were made by very well known and respected cuemakers that would NOT be identified.

I would not buy one because the makers may be someone that is not well known and respested or someone I wouldn't take a cue from, even for free.

Now that not naming the makers as stirred up so much controversy, it will start to work against the brand Unity, IMO. They need to let potential buyers know who is building the cues, although it won't effect me, one way or the other.
 
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