I think he was addressing that toward me, and so I'll reply to justadub.
Perhaps if the league players showed the least bit of etiquette there wouldn't be that bias you speak of. You act as if I or anyone else who doesn't like leagues must just have the anti-league gene. It couldn't possibly be that the league members have by their own actions brought this upon themselves. I didn't start out disliking leagues it was a learned reaction.
There is a former room owner in this very thread, who brought the leagues into his room and and after just two sessions abandoned the idea, because of the way they acted. I guess he just had an anti-league bias too. You your self say this anti-league bias is expected here on AZ. I wonder why that is, or did you never question the reason.
Pool it's just a night out for them, where they can BS, maybe have a few beers, stand in the way of any poor sole unlucky enough to be renting a table anywhere near them, and if you dare say something they will get indignant and say something like "well you shouldn't be playing next to the league anyway" like you would be if you had any other possible choice. How many times is to many, to have to say please excuse me ???
Edit to ad: One night I was playing with someone and the league players started a league match right next to our table, okay. So this one person score keeping for that match pulls a chair up so close to the ends of their table and mine that every time I had to take a shot from there I'd have to look back to see if I was going to hit him. So I finally asked if he could please move back a little, and his reply was, you shouldn't be playing here next to the league match, oh really ??? There were other tables open that they could have started their league match on, they choose to use the table right next to us. This is the dumb thinking and attitude, that just turns people against the leagues. Yet you won't see other league members step in to correct or explain to that league member where they were wrong. I guess it's just easier to blame it on us, saying that we're bias, when league players act like that.
Instead of a simple sorry I guess I shouldn't have been standing two feet from your table with my back toward it, you are right, I don't own the place because I come in once a week to play in a league.
Then you have the four, that's right four, league players who decide to try and stand between the table you're playing on and the next table, along the long side of the table your playing on where there is just enough room for your stance and if your cue ball is on the rail, your butt will touch the adjacent table. The adjacent table where no one is playing because the league players have decided to dump all their stuff on it and use it for a coat check, that is when their not trying to use it as a chair. I'd like to see a non league player stand two feet from a table the league matches are being played on with their back to it, repeatedly through out the night and see the reaction, I'll tell you what it would be, they'd have a fit, and rightfully so.
These people aren't real Pool players and never will be, it's just a night out for them, you could replace the word Pool with any other activity and they wouldn't really be into that activity either, it's a night out for them, period. The could care less about anybody else around them or the equipment (9' gold crowns) and they make that crystal clear. It gets old week after week.
They don't have junk leagues like ours in other countries they get serious players and run the leagues right, the leagues here are like some carnival side show. it's best to just stay away from the Pool rooms on league nights. The leagues players show no courtesy what so ever, then people will say "well they just don't know any better", and if that were true that's one thing. The truth is they they don't know any better because they simply don't care, the proof of this is if they did care over time they would start to show more courtesy and that simply doesn't happen. -----------------> One can only feign ignorance for so long.
If there's a anti-league bias here on AZ as you say, trust me there's a reason, and you can find that reason by looking at how league players act.
This doesn't mean I am talking about you, I am talking about leagues in general. I know there are some good people that play in the leagues.
I wasn't born or raised to dislike leagues, I assure you. This was a learned reaction.
The usual anti-league bias is present in this thread, which is to be expected here on AZB.
I hear you.
Pretty discouraging, to this lowly league player.
Over and out.
