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US Open 9-ball updates thread..
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I heard him on the phone:
Fa boy? He bet? How much?
Ruiz is a top notch player though. He doesn't have to fold, ever.
Totally agreed. Shane came with a 5 pack and then couldn’t get back in the game, and he had chances. Not a knock on FSR at all. Very impressive and he’s improvement over the years is among the highest among many.
That would be because you're WRONG maybe???? Americans include most of the best Euros... Most of the best Euros and some flips live here and play here the MAJORITY of the time Shaw, Appleton, etc...
The nationality of the player does not mean that they are playing FROM that country. Many of the players were originally listed as Americans because they live here and it had to be corrected. Hell, players that have lived most, if not all of their lives here often list a different nationality when competing over seas.
Jaden
Is it single elimination now?
Theron 10-11: Implied rating ~710 given Theron's rating of 741
Shaw 1-11: Implied rating ~375 given Shaw's 800+ rating
Patel 9-2: Not in FargoRate. Patel lost to a 732 player 9-0.
Magee 9-0: Also not in FargoRate but lost to a 696-rated player 9-2.
Unless there is more data out there, the Shaw games represent a large chunk of his performance and will hurt his rating a lot. The other three matches would probably peg him in the low 700s as you suggest.
I don't know if he has played enough to have a FargoRate - I guess there is a minimum number of matches/racks to be played. I think 720-740 is a reasonable guess. If he does learn from this, plays more often and shakes off the lack of composure when way behind in a winner breaks format, then he could creep up above 750. Hypothetically, if he gave up snooker and dedicated himself to pool then maybe 780-790 but beyond that the proof could only be in the pudding.
He also beat a 733 player 11-5 in his third match.
You need 200 games to be considered robust, but you can have a rating after just a few games.
Jaden
Thanks, I missed that - the Alshammari games suggest ~875 performance. So that would make it more likely he's above 700 once the ratings are updated.
Your original question was if it had EVER happened, not about the future.
With the number of elite players today, you are probably right.
telinoz
Registered
Yep, they can set FargoRate based on other data and have done in the past.
They only revert to Starter ratings if there is zero data on games played vs anyone.
I had to do this myself in Sydney, for some players I was adding to a new pool series.
Pulled data from various pool events, their rankings and handicaps along with Snooker data.
Ended up creating a calculated FargoRate as I could also compare established Robust players against their rankings / stats in these other events in pool and Snooker.
Submitted to FargoRate, got 150 players setup with decent ratings that have turned out to be accurate.
If he gave up snooker, he'd better have a wife or GF with a job and a place to live so she can support him while he practices and learns to gamble until he can finally make a 5 figure income!
flmusclehead
Member
Hmm... Might be on to something here...
It is true that there aren't very many American players who are competitive against the world's best, but one guy who can bring it sometimes against the best is notably absent from this year's tournament: Bergman