i saw a post that said dave daya won the seniors. does anyone know yet who won the open division?
valley forge open winner
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Ming Ng won the ladies event. John Schmidt won the men's event.
thanks for that info. i should have clarified the amateur open event.
He's asking about the men's open event, not the pros. When I was watching, Larry Price was playing Danny Barnes, for the title. IIRC, Barnes won the first set, and was winning in the 2nd set, when I walked away, to go downstairs and watch JL.
Scott Lee
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i've heard larry price is an animal. not sure where he's from, but he made an appearance in morgantown, wv and left with alot of cash from alot of really strong local guys from morgantown and uniontown.
larry price considered amateur??
I never really get how they decide who can and can't play. Always some really strong players in the event who without a doubt play for a living. Larry is a former Derby banks champion as I recall. I'm not so sure the event should be labeled as "amateur".
I never really get how they decide who can and can't play. Always some really strong players in the event who without a doubt play for a living. Larry is a former Derby banks champion as I recall. I'm not so sure the event should be labeled as "amateur".
there's no real guideline is there? is jason kirkwood amateur? i guess, but he could beat anyone in the world on the barbox but he doesn't play any pro tour events.
hlymnstr14...I disagree. Jason Kirkwood plays in professional events all the time, playing with all of the other top names in the sport. The fact that he has yet to win a major tournament (other than the amateur titles that he has already), may play a role in the perception of players like Jason (and 100 others) as a 'nonprofessional' aka a top amateur. But don't think he doesn't play in these events...he does.
IMO, it's defined by the level of play you acquire. Once you are at that "elite" level (called open pro), you have the same skill at the table as everybody else. It's the mental side that then frequently determines who wins. All of those 'elite' players are professionals (there are literally hundreds, if not thousands, across the U.S. alone), in my mind, regardless of whether they are ranked top 32, 64 or 128...or more.
Scott Lee
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IMO, it's defined by the level of play you acquire. Once you are at that "elite" level (called open pro), you have the same skill at the table as everybody else. It's the mental side that then frequently determines who wins. All of those 'elite' players are professionals (there are literally hundreds, if not thousands, across the U.S. alone), in my mind, regardless of whether they are ranked top 32, 64 or 128...or more.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
I may have looked at the scorecard wrong. Unless Larry staged a huge comeback, I made a mistake. It probably said Price won the first set 5-3, and was winning the second set 3-1, when I left, to go watch JL. Larry is a great player, I believe from the Richmond, VA area...and yes, he did win a recent bank pool event at the Derby City Classic.
Scott Lee
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i'm not really debating him playing any pro tournaments. i just know he is nationally recognized player. i think he won the valley forge open tournament 2 times in a row. i'm really only agreeing with the one guy who said there is no clear cut amateur status in alot of these amateur tournaments.
lets say i play pool for the fun of it, yet i could play with any pro. i have a regular job, wife and kids but i am a top level player. i don't make a living playing pool, i just play regional and national amateur tournaments, placing in the top 10 regularly an winning some as well. should i be able to play in the valley forge amateur open?
My thoughts exactly.
I may be wrong about Price winning. I thought I saw his name listed on the winner's bracket but not sure now. I wasn't watching the match. I did watch the Eddie Abraham-Dennis Hatch Pro-Am match which was good, although Abraham never should have gotten there. His previous match with Joey Testa went to a third set with Abraham winning but Testa missed two critical shots that could have put him in position to win. Great match though. I'm not sure who won the Pro-Am final between Hatch and Mike Dechaine.
John Schmidt wins the Championship and pockets $20,000...Corey Dueul takes 2nd Place and wins $7,000...seems like a steep drop to me.
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Larry Price is w/o question a professional pool player....
Then again the man only won a division tittle in the Derby City Classic!!!!
Larry Price is w/o question a professional pool player....
Then again the man only won a division tittle in the Derby City Classic!!!!
Why do it ?
I would rather wrestle a gorilla for a banana than beat 850+ players for peanuts, every promoter deserves to make money, but please. And yet every year pool players from around the country bend over and smile. So maybe they like being taken advantage of, but I'm sure of this as long as they keep playing it won't change
I would rather wrestle a gorilla for a banana than beat 850+ players for peanuts, every promoter deserves to make money, but please. And yet every year pool players from around the country bend over and smile. So maybe they like being taken advantage of, but I'm sure of this as long as they keep playing it won't change
Ain't it the truth. They are actually playing for a fraction of the entry fee money, with zero added. It's a sweet deal for someone. Unfortunately, very common in the billiard industry.
Thanks for that update. I was wondering about who won the ProAm! :smile:
You do have a point. I'm pretty sure he'd never be allowed to compete in the regional amateur events. That said, Larry always seemed to fly under the radar for many years. I have never seen him at the U.S. Open. Yet, he's made his appearance known at the DCC. However, the DCC is kind of an all-caliber kind of pool event, I guess. In the words of Efren, maybe he got lucky!
