I heard VLC is decent. Never used it though.chiatlard said:gee does anyone know of any nice flv players out there?
I do have a nice FLV to AVI converter though

I heard VLC is decent. Never used it though.chiatlard said:gee does anyone know of any nice flv players out there?
And that is?.. I'm using WinFF to convert FLV to mpeg, but it can't handle some files, and quality worsens a bit.Icon of Sin said:I do have a nice FLV to AVI converter though![]()
i got VLC player too but it seems that i cant fast forward thru flv files.it just stops the video. do u have the same problem?Vahmurka said:And that is?.. I'm using WinFF to convert FLV to mpeg, but it can't handle some files, and quality worsens a bit.
btw I use VLC player if I need to view FLV files. Never lets me down.
chiatlard said:i got VLC player too but it seems that i cant fast forward thru flv files.it just stops the video. do u have the same problem?
yep, same thing here. I believe flv's are to blame. You can't fast forward it that way, the only means being increasing speed (x4, x8, x16).PKM said:chiatlard said:i got VLC player too but it seems that i cant fast forward thru flv files.it just stops the video. do u have the same problem?
I have the same problem (I'm using the Mac version). It closes the video if I try to skip ahead.
BazookaJoe said:Russ can give anyone here the eight on being a penis.
how did u convert flv to mpeg?Vahmurka said:yep, same thing here. I believe flv's are to blame. You can't fast forward it that way, the only means being increasing speed (x4, x8, x16).
That's is one of the reasons I try to convert these to mpeg, so that I can start viewing from anywhere.
That's a little conceited, isn't it? The observance that you seem to think that you are the only person who would report a "real crime" seems to speak volumes about your grasp on reality.Russ Chewning said:Well, what can I say? I probably would be the guy to tell a store owner that kids are in the back stuffing comic books down their pants.
True, however over a period of many years, society has decided that crimes come in varying degrees of seriousness. Unfortunately, the lobbyists for the motion picture and recording industry seem to have convinced our legislators otherwise.Thievery is thievery, no matter what form it comes in.
You are at a definite disadvantage in this discussion, since you can't look for yourself. Anyone who cares to click on the uploaders "home' link, prominently displayed along with the so-called "pirated" videos, will be treated to a very official looking, "BCN" YouTube page, including advertisements from BCN sponsors and links to the BCN site, among other things. It's a polished, professional effort, and having seen it for myself, I'll say this. If it's not BCN, it one helluva ruse, and would fool any casual observer.BCN may have put the videos up, and they may well be within their rights. But until that has been established, I see anyone downloading or viewing those clips as thieves of intellectual property.
Apparently you're correct on both counts.All I know, is Pat sure as hell didn't know anyone was putting ENTIRE MATCHES on youtube...
You can't be serious. OK, maybe the snitch thing is part of it, but I would offer that it's the righteous, superior, and argumentative tone of most of your posts that people are having a problem with. You tend to use the word "fact" freely, however note that you made a blind assumption that the material was posted illegally, you made another blind assumption that the matches were full-length. Both seem to have been skewed, a little hasty and obviously ill-informed. You're just a "Glass-Half-Empty" kind of guy, I guess.and you all seem to have a massive problem with someone telling him that.
Slider said:That's a little conceited, isn't it? The observance that you seem to think that you are the only person who would report a "real crime" seems to speak volumes about your grasp on reality.
True, however over a period of many years, society has decided that crimes come in varying degrees of seriousness. Unfortunately, the lobbyists for the motion picture and recording industry seem to have convinced our legislators otherwise.
You are at a definite disadvantage in this discussion, since you can't look for yourself. Anyone who cares to click on the uploaders "home' link, prominently displayed along with the so-called "pirated" videos, will be treated to a very official looking, "BCN" YouTube page, including advertisements from BCN sponsors and links to the BCN site, among other things. It's a polished, professional effort, and having seen it for myself, I'll say this. If it's not BCN, it one helluva ruse, and would fool any casual observer.
Apparently you're correct on both counts.
First, that's all you know. (is it possible that it's all you want to know?)
Second, I'd offer that one possible reason that Pat is not aware of full-length matches being posted is because so far, I haven't found any of them to be full-length. They look like BCN subscription feeds, clipped to length, with missing games, laced with advertisements. They also seem to be quite raw in production quality as well, compared to what you'd find on an Accu-stats video product.
You can't be serious. OK, maybe the snitch thing is part of it, but I would offer that it's the righteous, superior, and argumentative tone of most of your posts that people are having a problem with. You tend to use the word "fact" freely, however note that you made a blind assumption that the material was posted illegally, you made another blind assumption that the matches were full-length. Both seem to have been skewed, a little hasty and obviously ill-informed. You're just a "Glass-Half-Empty" kind of guy, I guess.
Further endearing yourself to your audience, you're lumping viewers of the videos in with the poster as criminals, which is a little over the top. Historically, it's seldom a crime to observe something that's there for the observing. If a particular online video is a problem (and I don't think any of these are) then the way to fix that is not by browbeating the observer, but to make that video unavailable. If that isn't possible, or the effort is abandoned because it would cost the aggrieved party more than it's worth, then cést la vie. Millions of Americans are forced to make these same types of hard choices every day, we don't need any more privileged classes.
In any case, I sincerely hope it's never a crime to click on an internet link, ever.
Russ Chewning said:Then, people start calling me a$$hole (that was Blackjack, a so-called "professional".. that doesn't seem professional to me), penis, jerk, etc.
Russ Chewning said:And people like Dave Sapolis say if Pat doesn't put his videos online for purchase, he can sit back and watch them get downloaded for free. (In so many words) Is Dave planning on paying for the bandwidth costs that Pat would incur? Is he planning on paying for network storage of thousands of hours of video? Is he planning on buying a streaming video server for Pat?
Blackjack said:I think I made the correct call. I didn't call you a penis. Its not that I disagree, I just didn't think of it first.
I am a professional, remember? Dance monkey, dance.
You're really proud of your phone call to Pat aren't you?
That's ok. Tell Pat to send me the bill. Not many players are making money off those tapes and DVD's anyway. Yes, I said it.
Russ Chewning said:I'll post another post, the other was getting too long.
The real issue I have is with people both uploading protected content and those downloading it.
Granted, that's not the case with the BCN content specifically, but I guarantee a lot of Accu-Stats stuff is being uploaded and shared on YouTube. How do I know? I saw a guy advertising this service on Ebay when I was looking for Accu-Stats stuff.
You want to know what the consequences of this sort of anti-commercial behavior can be? Well, lemme give you a clue.
Given that I live in Florida, that has tons of top notch talent, and lots of matches between top pros, I have been considering starting up a business offering HD pool matches for sale. High Definition cameras are becoming affordable enough to make this a realistic plan. ($4000-$5000)
There are a few pool room owners in Florida that I think would be willing to let me set up equipment and film some matches at some of the Florida tour events. The Seminole Tribe could be included in the deal for some advertising revenue.
I was thinking about bringing Grady Mathews on board to do commentary. I am SURE he would LOVE to do color commentary again.
And now, I look at the fact that the pool cummunity will gladly download a low rez version of the matches, and care not one wit about the guy bringing the matches to them.
And I begin to think to myself, "You know what? This HD would never make money. Not enough people are willing to PAY for the service. Would they WANT the service? Heck yeah! But they won't PAY for it."
THAT's the real cost to stealing commercial content. You kill the incentive for new businesses to provide that content. So the same old established companies get to do business the way they want, because the barriers to entry are too high.
Russ
Smorgass Bored said:Gee, I thought that Jorge Torres was already doing that at the Seminole's Florida Tour stops on ProPoolVideo.com
Doug
( you just gonna knock him outta the way )
Russ Chewning said:Then, people start calling me a$$hole (that was Blackjack, a so-called "professional".. that doesn't seem professional to me), penis, jerk, etc.
For what?
For telling Pat. It seemed to me that if all this was legal and above board, that no one would have a problem with me contacting Pat. The fact that I am immediately attacked tended to give me the impression that those attacking me thought they might not be in the right.
And I ran with that.
Russ
Russ Chewning said:Doug,
Do you know what HD stands for?
Russ
Smorgass Bored said:Yes, High Definition. I'm also one of the very few people online that's met you and played pool with you and I know what YOU stand for too.
It must be nice to get paid the big bucks while in Iraq and stay online stirring the pot while getting paid. Do you do any actual work or are you stealing from your employer ?
Doug
( and I know other things that I've refrained from posting here )
Russ Chewning said:What? You gonna telllllllllllllllllllllll everyone I sold you all my VHS Accu-Stats? And I suppose you think I copied them, and you got "dirt" on me? Nope.. It would go against everything I stand for to copy something then sell the originals.
Russ