watched color of money for the first time

[markpatrick]

the color of money

but i never seen the hustler yet.
is this the reason i didnt like the ending? i wanted him to play tom cruise at the end and beat him sooooo frikkin bad!!!
what was the point of them ending the movie like that? i would understand if the color of money 2 came out or something.
or were they trying to steer the pool crowd away from the hustling scene and fix the damage they created with the hustle movie?

I think the color of money was the Hustler Part 2.:smile:

Paul Newman is dead so do not look for Color of Money 2.

 

[markpatrick]

So he head to the casino like Bartrum?

Or maybe the The C.O.M sequel could have the setting where Vincent is just getting out of prison from a 10 year hitch from falling to the darkside of pool & was hooked on drugs & flipping dope & now fresh out the joint he picks up his cue again because it's the only thing he knows but finds out there's no more money in pool and it aint what it use to be....hmmmm....naaah....too realistic....wouldn't fly with the general public..lol

Really good pool players have given up the grind for the ease of stealing cash from suckers at a Texas Hold Em table. Just a thought.

 

[original palmer]

I havnt even been apart of this forum for a month and I can already tell there are people on here who are very deep into the game and well connected. Custom cue makers and all. Maybe azbilliards should make the next big pool movie. Seriously......

 

[Luxury]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vOdhQHC4BQ

Totally worth watching this whole clip but watch at 4:27

If I'm not mistaken it looks like Vince hits the nine ball first in a trick shot style carom shot then pumps his fist like he just won the game.

Please tell me I'm wrong and that Mike Sigel wouldn't have set up this shot for him.

 

[JB Cases]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vOdhQHC4BQ

Totally worth watching this whole clip but watch at 4:27

If I'm not mistaken it looks like Vince hits the nine ball first in a trick shot style carom shot then pumps his fist like he just won the game.

Please tell me I'm wrong and that Mike Sigel wouldn't have set up this shot for him.

Why wouldn't they set up a shot like that? He did pump his fist after the combination.

I don't see what the big deal is about it.

That scene nearly sums up the whole movie though.

 

[weiru]

i watched the hustler then colour of money. paul newman have the charm. but it leaves me wondering. is pool in the states abt hustling and money now?

 

[mdavis228]

#1: Not to be argumentative as I can only go by what I have experienced. I have attended many professional 9 Ball tournaments and have watched countless on TV and I can honestly say I have never seen a pro play shape for a bank when they could leave shape for an easier shot as Vincent could have.

#2: I stand corrected. Lou was technical advisor for Racing to the Moon with Sean Penn.

No argument I didn't go back & look at the movie before my comment or anything. If any decent player can pull shape for an easier shot, then of course they would. I just meant that it's sometimes the case where you're better off taking the bank you're sure you can get than to try and get what you hope you'll get. In that position, any good player will shoot for bank shape the majority of the time. It often hinges on the shape that will result AFTER the shot, too.

 

[marek]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vOdhQHC4BQ

Totally worth watching this whole clip but watch at 4:27

If I'm not mistaken it looks like Vince hits the nine ball first in a trick shot style carom shot then pumps his fist like he just won the game.

Please tell me I'm wrong and that Mike Sigel wouldn't have set up this shot for him.

Yes, you are wrong, the first ball Vince hits is 2 which hits 9 which goes into the pocket. :wink: But I had to watch the clip twice to see what has happened...

 

[pooltchr]

I don't know if people will see this as too cute, but having cruise as the old guy who takes some cocky young new guy under his wing would be good.

Eddie got beat down, but over the years learned from the school of hard knocks. That is what makes the character believable as a mentor. Vincent doesn't have what it takes to sit back and help someone else. I don't think I could buy into your premise.

JMHO

Steve

 

[pooltchr]

I was blown away first time I watched The Hustler. I thought it was an "Oscar" caliber movie.

It absolutely was. Unfortunately, it came out in the same year as West Side Story.

However, COM has Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio factor. She's hawt!!!

I couldn't agree more!

Steve

 

[Luxury]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luxury
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vOdhQHC4BQ

Totally worth watching this whole clip but watch at 4:27

If I'm not mistaken it looks like Vince hits the nine ball first in a trick shot style carom shot then pumps his fist like he just won the game.

Please tell me I'm wrong and that Mike Sigel wouldn't have set up this shot for him.


Why wouldn't they set up a shot like that? He did pump his fist after the combination.

I don't see what the big deal is about it. That scene nearly sums up the whole movie though.

You didn't read my post all the way. I thought that Vince shot straight into the nine which would be a foul. I didn't see the two since I was viewing on my iPhone. My bad.

 

[CreeDo]

Eddie got beat down, but over the years learned from the school of hard knocks. That is what makes the character believable as a mentor. Vincent doesn't have what it takes to sit back and help someone else. I don't think I could buy into your premise.

JMHO

Steve

Well, maybe not, but it's not completely impossible. I'm thinking vince 20-40 years later. Did they ever say what age he was in the movie? I think we were meant to see him as a teenager or at most like 22-23. I'd imagine he was pretty far from whatever kind of man he'd eventually turn out to be.

He got off easy compared to newman but he did take a punch and we can assume it won't be long before he gets his heart broken. Maybe the new cynical dumping vince eventually goes on to get his ass kicked trying to hustle for a living, and eventually mellows with age and comes to appreciate what eddie was trying to do for him. He decides he wants to do the same for someone else. At some point I think most people realize their shooting skills either have reached a plateau or have started a downhill slide, and they get this urge to teach. They can at least feel like the best player on paper even if they can't do it on the table anymore.

Actually, the more I think about it, the more I realize the only reasonable course the series can take is:
ZOMBIE PIPER LAURIE

Sarah Packard uses what little pool knowledge she could absorb before dying to become the world's only female undead hustler. She shambles from town to town, hustling marks with her "I'm a zombie, I have limited coordination" routine. The players she can't beat, she gets drunk and seduces before killing them and eating their brain and taking their bankroll.

 

[RobDeBank]

Read the book. The movie is so bad it's an insult to pool. Cartoon characterization and a zero imagination plotline that has nothing to do with the novel. Every shot is either a simple stop shot or a ridiculous combo. Scorsese's worst movie and an insult to Tevis. The Hustler is way better. A very decent attempt at making a movie out of the original book.

I disagree I don't think the movie was horrific... I am not claiming it is a great movie like the hustler or as good as the novel. But all in all I felt it was a pretty decent film... I pop it in the dvd atleast once a year. To each his own though right?

 

[smoooothstroke]

How about a story of a female pool player rising to the top of the pool world?Sounds like a good movie idea to me.What would be a good title....

 

[jgpool]

Dead Stroke!

One scene that is a standout for me from "The Hustler" is the one where Newman described being "in the zone". Absolutely nailed it (I think - it's been a long time since I've felt that way :embarrassed2: ).

It's the greatest feeling there is! Maybe second greatest feeing!!

 

[jgpool]

Baby Sit.

I was blown away first time I watched The Hustler. I thought it was an "Oscar" caliber movie.

However, COM has Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio factor. She's hawt!!!

I had the pleasure of baby sitting for her and her sisters when they were very young. She had 5 or 6 sisters and they were all beautiful. So was their family.

As far as the movie goes like was said earlier the Hustler a great movie COM was a good movie. IMHO

 

[mullyman]

#1: Not to be argumentative as I can only go by what I have experienced. I have attended many professional 9 Ball tournaments and have watched countless on TV and I can honestly say I have never seen a pro play shape for a bank when they could leave shape for an easier shot as Vincent could have.

One thing you need to realize is that when it's on film it has to appeal to the general public. The general public doesn't want to see perfect play, or at least they wouldn't know it if they saw it. No, what they want to see are fancy banks, combination's, balls flying all over the table and falling into pockets. John Q Public sees Efren Reyes playing flawless straight pool, running 150 balls, and they yawn at it because it's boring. They don't understand the precision play that he is putting out there to make it *LOOK* that easy. Sorry, Vince's set up for the bank was the correct shot for that setting.
MULLY

 

[rementis]

I love it when the conversation turns to The Hustler and The Color of Money. I think it's pretty obvious The Hustler is the better movie, but I don't understand why TCOM gets put down all the time. It was very much a product of it's time, and Paul Newman was great in it. Watching The Hustler, it's hard to imagine how Newman could have ever turned out to be anything but a huge movie star.
I watched another Newman movie again recently, Nobody's Fool. He's amazing in it, highly recommended if you haven't seen it.
See this: My short review of Nobody's Fool

 

[Travis3c]

we had a conversation the other night at the pool hall about a sequel to the COM but had Tom Cruise coaching a hot female pool player such as Shanelle Loraine. Bam just like that the pool halls would fill up again. I live near LA maybe i will throw the idea to them.

 

[Jack Madden]

no wait !



Keith get's another great part !

Do it !

I think JAM and Keith would love it - and why not. Pool player playing pool player and getting some of the action.