WE LIVE ON A PLANET: YES, this is pool related

I had a funny experience a long time ago when I lived in Dayton, Ohio, where I grew up. My father, who, was an M.D., often gave annual physicals to the officers at Wright Patterson AFB in nearby Fairborn, Ohio. He took me with him one year when I was a boy of about 9 or 10. I remember walking into then this large building with lots of stuff going on behind closed doors, and guys walking in and out of them and up and down the hallway. We were taken to a medical room and my father prepared for the exams while I sat there.

Once the officers starting coming in to wait their turn, no one paid any more attention to me. I was always a curious kid and I wandered into the next room, where I saw all kinds of fancy machinery, none of which I understood. Remember, I was probably in the fifth grade then, but a pretty bright kid nonetheless. I could already read a college textbook and understand it!

I wandered through that room mesmerized by all the interesting looking stuff and there wasn't anyone else in there except me. I kept going from one room to the next, and even the people working in there didn't notice me. I was probably trying to stay undetected. The last room I went into had what looked like the gurneys I had seen my dad work on patients on, and there was something on one of them covered by a sheet. It may have been the body of a dead soldier (this was Korean War era). That I will never know. What I do know is that a large man in uniform came in quickly and scared me to death. He grabbed me and pulled me out of the room forcibly. He asked me what I was doing there, and I told about about my dad. He walked me down the hall (holding me tightly by the shoulder all the way) to where my dad was working and brought me back inside and told me to sit down and stay put, in the same area where the officers were waiting to see my dad.

He scared the shit out of me and I didn't budge out of that chair until my dad was done. I don't think I ever told my dad about it, but I never forgot that experience and wondered what was going on in there. Years later I heard that maybe the creatures from Roswell had been brought to Wright Pat and it made me curious. Not a great story, but that's all I remember, the big guy who grabbed me and scared me to death. :smile:

In fact, I believe the grey aliens from Roswell were initially brought to Wright Pat. There are some on display in one of the underground levels at Area 51 now, as well as both intact and damaged craft.

Maybe you're not aware of what remote viewing is, but some of the best civilian remote viewers looked at Area 51 and they corroborated the info in a book I was told to read.

You can go to Farsight.org in the Mystery Projects section and watch the Area 51 video. The best entertainment you'll ever have if you like that type of stuff!

(And you'll become aware of what else is in the lowest levels)

Thinking more about your post. If your Dad was an MD at Wright Pat then no doubt he knows about those grey aliens. NDA or not, as his son I imagine at some point he would give you hints. BTW, those smaller grey alien creatures I believe are clones and they are actually grown in glass containers in a green colored, viscous liquid. But that's another story. Lol
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I had a funny experience a long time ago when I lived in Dayton, Ohio, where I grew up.

Jay - my uncle (retired now) worked at that AFB for a good 40 years, every day. He was a PhD and worked in cockpit ergonomics and things of that nature. He said, in confidence, numerous times that in all his time there he never saw any hint of unusual activity or evidence of an alien crash.

Of course you can dismiss that as covering up, but when you know a guy your whole life and he says there's nothing happening, you have to give it some weight.

It is easy and I guess fun for people (not you) to throw around rumor and conspiracy theories like they are fact. Good thing we have the concept of innocent until proven guilty or else we'd still be burning witches.
 
Except for Supreme Court nominations.

NPR here we come!

Jay - my uncle (retired now) worked at that AFB for a good 40 years, every day. He was a PhD and worked in cockpit ergonomics and things of that nature. He said, in confidence, numerous times that in all his time there he never saw any hint of unusual activity or evidence of an alien crash.

Of course you can dismiss that as covering up, but when you know a guy your whole life and he says there's nothing happening, you have to give it some weight.

It is easy and I guess fun for people (not you) to throw around rumor and conspiracy theories like they are fact. Good thing we have the concept of innocent until proven guilty or else we'd still be burning witches.
 
In fact, I believe the grey aliens from Roswell were initially brought to Wright Pat. There are some on display in one of the underground levels at Area 51 now, as well as both intact and damaged craft.

Maybe you're not aware of what remote viewing is, but some of the best civilian remote viewers looked at Area 51 and they corroborated the info in a book I was told to read.

You can go to Farsight.org in the Mystery Projects section and watch the Area 51 video. The best entertainment you'll ever have if you like that type of stuff!

(And you'll become aware of what else is in the lowest levels)

Thinking more about your post. If your Dad was an MD at Wright Pat then no doubt he knows about those grey aliens. NDA or not, as his son I imagine at some point he would give you hints. BTW, those smaller grey alien creatures I believe are clones and they are actually grown in glass containers in a green colored, viscous liquid. But that's another story. Lol
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ah, finally this thread takes a turn I understand :-)

In the late 80's/early 90's I was the USAF Pentagon spokesman for Project Blue Book (not kidding). I also got the chance to fly out to Wright-Patterson AFB three or four times a year. Sometimes I tell that to people and they always give me that raised eyebrow, "Well......?" look. I always tell them, "Two blondes, a hot tub, and a bottle of tequila and I'll tell you everything I know.

Lou Figueroa
arriba!
 
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Youse guys are taking a damn good run at it.
 
If you're in Vegas and you get bored(??) just track down M. Eberle and start this conversation with him. Pack a lunch and maybe some form of pharmaceuticals. ;)
 
A Zen student says to his teacher “I realize now that everything is maya (illusion)
The teacher picks up a stick and starts beating him with it....asks..
“Is this pain an illusion?”

Or a better one: "After all this mystical discussion, I'm hungry....let's order a pizza."

Or, "Don't stick your finger in your ear; you don't know where it's been."



Jeff Livingston
 
Yes Jay, but it doesn't exist until you measure it. Think Schrodinger's cat. That was what he was saying. Nothing to define, until you start defining it. The laws of nature start breaking down, and we can't define it. We're trying to though, that is quantum mechanics.

I understand what Get a Grip is saying.

But to find the cat requires a body...several physical bodies.

If the spirit lives with and/or without the body, what takes so long to physically grow up to the level of that infinite spirit? I'd say that shows us that the spirit follows the physical.

But my gut tells me different.:thumbup:



Jeff Livingston
 
I think much truth is in fact hidden within movies. The Matrix being one. The movie Inception is another. Since consciousness is really what is the most fundamental thing, not particles, it's almost as if -- if our minds can imagine something -- then it's possible to bring that into being in our virtual reality world.

So don't be surprised in the not too distant future if we all start using totally new forms of energy (antigravitics) and flying cars.


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Yet those conscious minds ARE physical first.


Jeff Livingston
 
Oh, an Area 51 conspiracy theorist.

OK. Good talk.

pj
chgo

NPR cleanup in aisle three!
It's clear that there are many things that you have no clue about, Area 51 only being one. Like many on the forums, it's easy to pretend that you know all, when Google is so handy....
 
Yet those conscious minds ARE physical first.


Jeff Livingston
I would say that the conscious minds are active in this programmed virtual reality, where they have control over one's avatar character or body in this world. Physical is only "real" in this virtual reality. When you die (or pass on), your consciousness is no longer confined to a "body".
 
I would say that the conscious minds are active in this programmed virtual reality, where
they have control over one's avatar character or body in this world. Physical is only "real" in this virtual reality. When
you die (or pass on), your consciousness is no longer confined to a "body".

A guy's gotta eat.

And your post showed up on my computer, not on my spirit. Before computers, we'd not be in communication except
by spirit. Apparently computers work better. Just sayin' man...don't go crazy on me.

I had a girl tell us that she remote viewed our apartment. She had been in our apartment (physically) before but still
ot it wrong. This was 1973...maybe they're better at it now?


Jeff Livingston
 
Jay - my uncle (retired now) worked at that AFB for a good 40 years, every day. He was a PhD and worked in cockpit ergonomics and things of that nature. He said, in confidence, numerous times that in all his time there he never saw any hint of unusual activity or evidence of an alien crash.

Of course you can dismiss that as covering up, but when you know a guy your whole life and he says there's nothing happening, you have to give it some weight.

It is easy and I guess fun for people (not you) to throw around rumor and conspiracy theories like they are fact. Good thing we have the concept of innocent until proven guilty or else we'd still be burning witches.
Learn about remote viewing. Study it. Practice it. Then you will be convinced that it is real and it works. Then simply go watch some of the best in the world do it under totally blind conditions. They have looked at Area 51. You can watch them remote viewing this site live on video and you will see that it is no joke and all 3 remote viewers are describing the same stuff in Area 51. And it just so happens to match up with what various books have described.

Sure, it's hard to comprehend things like reverse engineered spacecraft and aliens, since those things are the most top secret things that our Gov has been going to extraordinary lengths to keep secret for many, many years.

For anyone NOT believing in UFOs or aliens (other beings), I would challenge you to start watching some of these interviews, starting with the oldest ones. I can guarantee you that after you watch a few, your eyes will be opened.

https://www.youtube.com/user/SDisclosure/videos?sort=da&view=0&flow=grid

In fact, I have watched every single one, once I found this channel.
 
The Amazing Randy offered these folks a million (I forget) dollars if any one of them could remote view under scientific conditions.


Jeff Livingston
 
A guy's gotta eat.

And your post showed up on my computer, not on my spirit. Before computers, we'd not be in communication except
by spirit. Apparently computers work better. Just sayin' man...don't go crazy on me.

I had a girl tell us that she remote viewed our apartment. She had been in our apartment (physically) before but still
ot it wrong. This was 1973...maybe they're better at it now?


Jeff Livingston
If you don't want to spend the time to learn it yourself, fine. You can just watch very good remote viewers. Watch enough of their sessions, and you won't have a doubt what our sub-conscious is capable of right now.

You can watch the Free Projects on this site
http://farsight.org/

And you can watch Edward Riordan perform many sessions live. If watching these people nail the targets over and over, if you still don't believe it works, then it's because you don't want to believe it.
https://www.youtube.com/user/erviewer/videos?sort=da&view=0&flow=grid
 
The Amazing Randy offered these folks a million (I forget) dollars if any one of them could remote view under scientific conditions.


Jeff Livingston

Guess nobody wanted that million dollars, huh. Much better to make a million selling dvd's and pay per views to suckers.
 
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If you don't want to spend the time to learn it yourself, fine. You can just watch very good remote viewers. Watch enough of their sessions, and you won't have a doubt what our sub-conscious is capable of right now.

You can watch the Free Projects on this site
http://farsight.org/

And you can watch Edward Riordan perform many sessions live. If watching these people nail the targets over and over, if you still don't believe it works, then it's because you don't want to believe it.
https://www.youtube.com/user/erviewer/videos?sort=da&view=0&flow=grid

It's not that I believe or not; it's that it works or not.

Thanks for the links.


Jeff Livingston
 
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