Weird little shots?

Bob Jewett said:
That's a good one. It seems like it could work even with the yellow ball not frozen to the cushion.
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Yea, and it works at all kinds of angles when the normal rail first isn't available. The first shot seems like it is very dependent on the layout of the balls.
 
At about three minutes in [00:03:05 - 00:03:12] Efren makes a ball in the corner when his OB caroms off another ball. The crowd assumed it was a great shot and applauded like it was something great.

But you tell me - great shot, or near miss?

The after-shot "Cheshire cat" grin on Efren's face tells me he thinks he just got a lucky break.

I think he missed his aim a tiny bit and caromed his OB off another ball, but the stars were with him and his OB went in the corner pocket he was shooting for anyway.

Lady Luck is a fickle old gal. On his very next shot Efren misses an easy ball in the corner by a mile, so even the Magician can lose his magic once in awhile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECtad3LCPPEd

...but it was a $200,000 payday for The Magician anyway, beating Sigel 7-5.

Efren had to use his "Cheshire cat" grin several times that match. He was just the tiniest bit off aim on several shots, but when you're as good as he was at that time, 'a little bit off-aim' was enough to beat the great Mike Sigel and claim a cool two hundred grand.
 
Texdance said:
At about three minutes in [00:03:05 - 00:03:12] Efren makes a ball in the corner when his OB caroms off another ball. The crowd assumed it was a great shot and applauded like it was something great.

But you tell me - great shot, or near miss?

T ....
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It was nearly a miss. It's amusing that the commentator said, "Well, he had to play it that way." It's hard to find good help. He was playing the shot left handed.
 
Love this idea and hope you include some tricky/fun safety shots, it's been said that you separate the great players from the good players when they get out of line. The great players will come up with something inventive that is rather unique and unforeseen and THAT'S when you learn, anyone can play the same old safeties with the same old result....I want to be inspired!!


Neil
 
How about the shot where the cue ball is frozen to the side cushion at the second diamond at the headstring and an object ball is frozen to the cueball also at the second diamond. The target object ball is in the jaws of the opposite corner pocket at the foot of the table. Shooting the cue ball with proper speed at the proper angle directly into the side cushion causes the cue ball to masse and curve into the target OB hanging in the jaws of the corner pocket. Cool little shot. Speed is key.
 
Fuji-whopper said:
Love this idea and hope you include some tricky/fun safety shots, it's been said that you separate the great players from the good players when they get out of line. The great players will come up with something inventive that is rather unique and unforeseen and THAT'S when you learn, anyone can play the same old safeties with the same old result....I want to be inspired!!


Neil
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In case anyone remembers some such safety plays, please speak up. I do remember one from Efren.:)
 
jalapus logan said:
How about the shot where the cue ball is frozen to the side cushion at the second diamond at the headstring and an object ball is frozen to the cueball also at the second diamond. The target object ball is in the jaws of the opposite corner pocket at the foot of the table. Shooting the cue ball with proper speed at the proper angle directly into the side cushion causes the cue ball to masse and curve into the target OB hanging in the jaws of the corner pocket. Cool little shot. Speed is key.
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I was already going to include a similar shot: two balls are frozen straight out from the side cushion at the head string (both are on the line). Bank the one that's frozen to the rail cross-corner to the foot pocket on the other side of the table.
 
How about when you just have the wrong angle into the side pocket but elevate your cue
just a little and make a small masse to get to where you need to go.

Regards, Dave
 
Bob Jewett said:
"This video is unavailable." :(
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I am confused as the url is correct. Is there a delay between posting to youtube and shareabillity?


How about the timing shot where objectball is frozen to the cueball on rail nearside pocket? Cut the ball down rail cueball banks across and knocks object ball in the side.


I watched a guy shoot the same type shot only object ball 1/4" of the longrail 5" from the corner. Cueball straight in line from center of object ball to center of opposite cornerpocket. He thin cut objectball up the rail,cueball went 3 rails and knocked object ball in the side. Made it on his 6th try.
 
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Oldie but a goodie..lol....

How about the "your screwed on the 8 ball" shot

8 ball against the corner of the side pocket.

If you can hit the ball straight on, hit very firm and the 8 ball crushes the corner and goes right in the hole.

 
skins said:
Oldie but a goodie..lol....

How about the "your screwed on the 8 ball" shot

8 ball against the corner of the side pocket.

If you can hit the ball straight on, hit very firm and the 8 ball crushes the corner and goes right in the hole.

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I have several rail-compression shots now -- maybe I can have a whole column of them.

Some of the other shots suggested here are great shots but are not quite in the same class as the little time shots and such. It's nice if a C player can make the shot within a few tries.
 
One of my favorites is making the object ball jump over an edge of a blocking ball.
This was best demonstrated by Mike Massey in an exhibition. He set up the object ball on the center spot with goal post balls either side. He shows that a ball will not fit between them. He then explained that pool balls are made of shrinkaflex and if you hit them hard enough they will shrink. He then hits the cue ball hard with just enough elevation to skip over the obstructing balls and cause the object ball to do the same. Perceptible as a jump shot only to the knowledgeable.
Can be a crowd pleaser especially if executed on an 8 ball that obviously does not fit.
 
Cornerman said:
I wish the WEI table still worked like the old days. I've gbot two. If I can't add them tomorrow, I'll send them to you.
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This guy has made a pretty user-friendly diagrammer that I think comes close
to the wei table, and sharing the stuff is not too much of a trial.

You draw your diagram, click save at the top right, it comes up with 3 ways to save it.
Right click the PNG option and do copy image url.
Then on AZ type


Drawing stuff is pretty straightforward, drag a ball into a side pocket to remove it.
Click on a line and hold for a second to remove it.
Tap A on the keyboard to give the line an arrowhead or no arrowhead.

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Anyway here's one that Bob's post reminded me of, that I was able to use
in a game recently. But it's very touchy and I can't seem to do it reliably.
It's pretty useful in theory though, and when it works it feels great.

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You need to sink the 8, and you can do it by shooting the wired 8-3 combo into the pocket with very high soft follow, and then letting the forward roll of the cue ball double kiss the 8 into the pocket. The hard part is where to aim. You can't aim as if cutting the 8 directly into the hole or the cue ball just passes the 8 without double kissing. You can't hit it right in the fact either, or you double kiss the 8 but send it in the wrong direction. The best I've been able to figure out is you want to cut the 8 slightly in the direction of the pocket, but the hit is very close to full. And you can't hit hard or else the 8 caroms too quickly in the wrong direction away from the hole, and simply knocks the cue ball out of the way.
 
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