What do ya do to/with the 5? To get out

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3RAILKICK

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We had this recently in league. It didn't work out. We tried some options later and came up with something. Too little too late.

How would you play this to runout? Or is safe the play? (roll up on 7?)

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It seems like maybe 60% do-able (ie -getting good from the 5 to the 6).

Yeah it's kind of a stretch but in the right spot-maybe fire at it.

You guys probably already have this shot option/I just ran across it recently.

3railkick
 
From an overhead view its hard to tell if the cb will pass the 8 to take the normal path to the 6. If it doesnt and you want to go for the run out, shoot it rail first with low right. The cue ball with kiss almost straight across table, and the right hand spin will take you 2 rails down for the 6.
The higher percentage shot is to shoot the 5 2 rails under the 9 for a later combination while the cue ball freezes to the 7.
Chuck
 
pocket the 5 and draw the cb. you'll either hit the 8 and hold for shape on the 7 or you'll go up table and get a shot on the 6.
 
This is one of those situations where your best option is to let your talent out. You're simply going to be forced to take a tough shot on the 6 (and possibly the 7) and there's no two ways about it.

Pocket the 5 ball and bring the cueball straight across for the tough angle on the 6. Since it's frozen to the rail, you'll have the liberty of using a bit of english to pocket the 6. Depending on how well you hit the 5ball will determine the predictability of getting shape on the 7. The nice thing is, no matter how severe the angle is on the 6, your cueball should head right toward the 7. A lot of good things can happen there so even if it doesn't go as planned, there's still a reasonable expectation of running out.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
This is one of those situations where your best option is to let your talent out. You're simply going to be forced to take a tough shot on the 6 (and possibly the 7) and there's no two ways about it.

Pocket the 5 ball and bring the cueball straight across for the tough angle on the 6. Since it's frozen to the rail, you'll have the liberty of using a bit of english to pocket the 6. Depending on how well you hit the 5ball will determine the predictability of getting shape on the 7. The nice thing is, no matter how severe the angle is on the 6, your cueball should head right toward the 7. A lot of good things can happen there so even if it doesn't go as planned, there's still a reasonable expectation of running out.
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I agree I don't think a safe is easy here either
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
This is one of those situations where your best option is to let your talent out. You're simply going to be forced to take a tough shot on the 6 (and possibly the 7) and there's no two ways about it.

Pocket the 5 ball and bring the cueball straight across for the tough angle on the 6. Since it's frozen to the rail, you'll have the liberty of using a bit of english to pocket the 6. Depending on how well you hit the 5ball will determine the predictability of getting shape on the 7. The nice thing is, no matter how severe the angle is on the 6, your cueball should head right toward the 7. A lot of good things can happen there so even if it doesn't go as planned, there's still a reasonable expectation of running out.
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What Jude said, he nailed the reply with the right answer, and best bet for a run out.
 
inside draw

RiverCity said:
From an overhead view its hard to tell if the cb will pass the 8 to take the normal path to the 6. If it doesnt and you want to go for the run out, shoot it rail first with low right. The cue ball with kiss almost straight across table, and the right hand spin will take you 2 rails down for the 6.
The higher percentage shot is to shoot the 5 2 rails under the 9 for a later combination while the cue ball freezes to the 7.
Chuck
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Rivercity's first choice is a a great shot nobody practices. It really works and can be used in a number of situations There is a video around somewhere that shows Corey Deuel (sp) using it.:smile:
 
Jude:
Pocket the 5 ball and bring the cueball straight across for the tough angle on the 6.
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Yep. Compare the difficulty of the long cut on the 6 with the difficulty of drawing back for it off the 5.

And since the 6 is only 12 inches from the pocket it's not that tough an angle. You'll have to hit the 6 easy to hold the CB up for the 7.

pj
chgo
 
Bingo! Rail first

:bow-down:As mentioned-I didn't have this shot in inventory when asked to coach a teammate. I had him hit it with draw and it ran into the 8 and he didn't get out. As usual-my fault.

We later discovered the rail-first option (accidently-by hitting inside draw badly). We had more consistent luck with rail-first center draw only-to eliminate some squirt aiming issues. We were surprised at the amount of cb spin and travel possible from a medium hit- well struck. Crossing over the 5 put a lot of spin on cb- then it really dives toward the short side corner near the 6(scratch in play) after contacting the 2nd side rail. That left us in a good spot to get back to the 7.



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Thanks guys-maybe the league director will let us do a "cash cab" call a friend
shout out next time. I vote to call you guys.

I'd like to know 1/2 of what you'all have forgotten. A wealth of knowledge here-thanks again

3railkick

the best of both worlds-cool shot and situationally right choice-when you gotta go!
 
Run the 5 up the rail with low outside. If the 6 is frozen it is goes as long as you get the cue ball on the other side of that diamond where the 6 is.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
This is one of those situations where your best option is to let your talent out. You're simply going to be forced to take a tough shot on the 6 (and possibly the 7) and there's no two ways about it.

Pocket the 5 ball and bring the cueball straight across for the tough angle on the 6. Since it's frozen to the rail, you'll have the liberty of using a bit of english to pocket the 6. Depending on how well you hit the 5ball will determine the predictability of getting shape on the 7. The nice thing is, no matter how severe the angle is on the 6, your cueball should head right toward the 7. A lot of good things can happen there so even if it doesn't go as planned, there's still a reasonable expectation of running out.
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I would do this but if i got the right angle on the 6(if the 6 is frozen) i would hit it with low right to spin it in and also skid the cueball to slow it down.
 
i like both possibilities. hitting the five in the corner going across to get an angle on the six is my first option, then take the angle on the six. the cross side to side draw is good too for someone with an excellent controlled stoke. yur shot to the short side of the six is not a high percentage routine shot but nice. however another draw shot here is pulling back hard on the five which it looks like the cue will hit the eight and move down to the six. if it doesnt hit the eight then the shot will just carry you to the head rail but on the long side not the short side. and of course the zig zag two or three rails is also a possibility. with my stroke i'd definetly attempt drawing the five back looking to hit the eight on the short side and bringing the cue down the table to the long side of the six. the only other factor not noted is if this is a bar box shot or a 9ft table. on the 9ft i'd do the draw. on the bar box id do the across table shot and shoot the angle on the six
 
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