What happened to me at the All-Around

BVal

BVal

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Just venting a little.
I was playing in the All-Around (big table 9-ball) here in Phoenix on Saturday and something happened that just irritated me a lot. I was playing my second match on the B-side and was playing very well - just making a few mistakes. Unfortunately the mistakes were big ones. The mistakes were not what upset me though. At one point I was down 8-1 in a race to 9. I finally stopped making mistakes and giving games away and came back to 8-6. In game 15 I break and run down to the 8 and 9. I shot the 8 and went two rails for position and hit it a little to firm and the 8 was going towards the side pocket for the scratch. My opponent started cheering OUTLOUD say GO IN! YES YES GO IN! and then when it fell for the scratch he did a Tiger Woods like fist pump. He won 9-6. I shook his hand and said good match. I was not irritated by my mistakes half as much as I was irritated by his disrespect he showed at the table. Two other times he did the fist pump on my mistakes. I have never cheered out loud for someone else's mistakes at the table and felt totally disrespected and was very irritated. Just venting - thanks for listening.

BVal
 
Sounds like he knew he was getting lucky by being ahead and when you started the comeback, he got worried and was relieved when you scratched. Its pretty poor sportsmanship on his part IMO. You should NEVER kick someone while they are down. Like I said JMO.

Southpaw
 
It's poor sportsmanship... im quitting my Sunday BCA league do to sportsmanship like this. Fortunately the APA in our area is good at stuff like this and sportsmanship isnt much of an issue.

Sorry you had to deal with that, I refuse to shake hands with someone like that regardless of how they played or I played.
 
Icon of Sin said:
It's poor sportsmanship... im quitting my Sunday BCA league do to sportsmanship like this. Fortunately the APA in our area is good at stuff like this and sportsmanship isnt much of an issue.

Sorry you had to deal with that, I refuse to shake hands with someone like that regardless of how they played or I played.
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I have a hard time not shaking hands with someone because I feel that is poor sportsmanship as well (not knocking you at all), but there are exceptions to every rule - I did not shake a guys hand one time because I knew he did not wash his hands after using the restroom.
 
BVal said:
I have never cheered out loud for someone else's mistakes at the table and felt totally disrespected and was very irritated. Just venting - thanks for listening.

BVal
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You haven't cheered at others mistakes because you are a gentleman....this guy was an azz, I hope he got waxed in the next round.....by shaking hands, you were more than a good sport.....he deserved a nice swift kick in the noots :D
 
1. Don't scratch, or
2. Surrender earlier.

Just kidding- the dude knows he was not supposed to win that one and dodged a bullet. Let him have his small victory and remember the day as resolve to CRUSH THEM ALL AT A LATER DATE!! (You did & you will).

You dun the right thing- except that scratch!!
 
BV,
This sort of thing goes on frequently in Betmore's Basement. The rule is that if my opponent is shooting, and starts verbally coaxing the cue ball to slow down, then I am automatically permitted to coax it to speed up. It's all in fun; there is no money on the line; just some friendly jousting (though I think elvicash was surprised the first time I did it; I had forgotten to tell him the house rule).

In competition, though, such behavior is certainly frowned upon; unless you are friends, and had done some kidding around during the match. I will say that your opponent is not necessarily a bad guy, perhaps he's just enthusiastic and SERIOUS about the competition. Perhaps just a "team sports" kind of guy (where celebration over your opponents failures are routine). Or perhaps he's just an A$$HOLE. You make the call.
 
Williebetmore said:
BV,
This sort of thing goes on frequently in Betmore's Basement. The rule is that if my opponent is shooting, and starts verbally coaxing the cue ball to slow down, then I am automatically permitted to coax it to speed up. It's all in fun; there is no money on the line; just some friendly jousting (though I think elvicash was surprised the first time I did it; I had forgotten to tell him the house rule).

In competition, though, such behavior is certainly frowned upon; unless you are friends, and had done some kidding around during the match. I will say that your opponent is not necessarily a bad guy, perhaps he's just enthusiastic and SERIOUS about the competition. Perhaps just a "team sports" kind of guy (where celebration over your opponents failures are routine). Or perhaps he's just an A$$HOLE. You make the call.
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I have made the call :D - Can you guess what my call was?

BVal
 
What I do in an instance like yours is I shake hands like a gentleman (although I agree on not shaking on the bathroom one) and unless you do not think you can get there I let it settle for a couple of weeks then I ask the guy to match up for a few hundred and I play like someone has a gun to my wife and dog's head in that match and try to exact my revenge for his poor sportsmanship by getting the MONEY.

-don
 
The great Grantland Rice once said, "It is not just who wins and loses the contest, it is how you played the game." Meaning good sportsmanship is paramount to being a sportsman.

I got knocked out of a poker tournament the other day on a very close hand. The guy jumped up and down and went into a mini celebration. I said nothing to him, but got up out of my chair and said good luck to everyone. There were several seasoned pros at my table. They acknowledged me and ignored the jerk. He was looking for someone to celebrate with him and everyone just looked at him with some measure of disdain.
 
I think you did the right thing. I believe in celebrating only ones own achievements, and even then doing so sparingly. Why celebrate what someone else did wrong? Your only real action is shake their hand and wlak away, hoping for another match at a later date. Of course, it would be great if someone else let him know how classless he appeared.
 
My approach is... if I wouldn't want it done to me (my opponent cheering my mistake)... then I certainly wouldn't do it to my opponent... regardless of whether he's an a-hole or not.

But... I would not be above letting him know that I did not appreciate his cheering my mistake(s) by saying something at the end of match... such as... "cheering your opponent's mistakes is totally class-less, brother... fwiw"
 
Unfortunately there isn't enough class and sportsmanship in the game at many events. Two years ago I was at the Limestone Open watching to the match that decided who I played. The match was local semi-pro Pierre Lauzon and Quebec pro Martin Daigle. The two have a little history together as they play on the same circuits. The match was 10-10 race to 11 and Lauzon was shooting. Instead of playing a simple run-through shot on the 6 to drop on the 7 into the longer shot into an open corner he elected to try a cute stun to play the 7 to the shorter pocket. He hit the shot a bit firm and sewered the CB in the side pocket. That left only an easy 7,8,9 runout with all balls close together and easy to make. Daigle's reaction was appalling. He stood up out of his chair and with a Tigeresque fist pump screamed "YES!" at the top of his lungs regardless of the numerous matches going on around him. The whole crown realized how poor his sportsmanship was and when he sank the 9 to win he raised his hands in celebration only to turn and see the crowd that had been watching left in disgust.

I feel for you Bval, some people have no class.
 
The Canadian Term - Feel Free To Borrow It

In my country we have a term for a guy like that:D

hoser /ˈhoʊzər/ [hoh-zer]
noun Canadian Slang.
a person who is considered unintelligent or uncouth, esp. a beer-drinking man.

hoser (hōz'ər)
n. Canadian Slang
A clumsy, boorish person, especially an uncouth, beer-drinking man.
 
Scaramouche said:
In my country we have a term for a guy like that:D

hoser /ˈhoʊzər/ [hoh-zer]
noun Canadian Slang.
a person who is considered unintelligent or uncouth, esp. a beer-drinking man.

hoser (hōz'ər)
n. Canadian Slang
A clumsy, boorish person, especially an uncouth, beer-drinking man.
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Reminds me of the movie "Strange Brew" a classic.

Get me a beer heh!
Take off hoser! :D:D

BVal
 
Maybe dude was a little overboard wiht his cheering.. but a lil bit here or there isnt so bad, is it?


I mean how many times have you hollerd your head off when one of your guys intercepts a bad throw from the other team.

Or your cheered when your PG stole a horrible pass off the inbound.

Or to take it to a more personal level, how many times have you hooped and hollered after a bad throw from an infielder that allowed the winning run to cross the plate during your weekly softball game?

I am not saying that dude was right..if he got to hyped over your mistake, but if I win, no matter how, I get happy.........call me crazy :D
 
smokeandapancak said:
Maybe dude was a little overboard wiht his cheering.. but a lil bit here or there isnt so bad, is it?


I mean how many times have you hollerd your head off when one of your guys intercepts a bad throw from the other team.

Or your cheered when your PG stole a horrible pass off the inbound.

Or to take it to a more personal level, how many times have you hooped and hollered after a bad throw from an infielder that allowed the winning run to cross the plate during your weekly softball game?

I am not saying that dude was right..if he got to hyped over your mistake, but if I win, no matter how, I get happy.........call me crazy :D
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I see where you are coming from. All are good examples, but IMO none of them apply to this situation. In pool - I am happy when I win as well, but I never cheer for or at their mistakes. Call me crazy :D

BVal
 
BVal said:
I see where you are coming from. All are good examples, but IMO none of them apply to this situation. In pool - I am happy when I win as well, but I never cheer for or at their mistakes. Call me crazy :D

BVal
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I actually know the guy you are talking about and I remember hearing this as I was playing on the table next to you when it happened.

While I will not defend his actions (as I also think it is just poor sportsmanship), he is not a bad guy, he just let's his emotions get the best of him. And this, of course, can lead to impolite and tactless behavior, especially in pool where there seem to be so many unwritten rules.

However, I am probably more on your side of the issue when it comes to acting a certain way after a match is over, regardless of whether I've won or lost. We act in a manner that we believe is proper and polite and expect others to do the same. Unfortunately, this is not always the case. It will vary on a player by player basis. Not everyone acts the way we want them to. And that's ok because becoming a truly good player means blocking ALL of that out and rising above it (which you did).

There will always be players like this. This is for certain and that will never change. But what can change is you and your attitude towards it. Learn to play at the same emotional level no matter who you are playing. Insure that you are playing the table and not the player. And if you lose to a guy like this again, take it with the same grace and class that you already do. Trust me, you are the one who people will notice acted with class.

Chances are you will probably play this guy again. And next time you play this guy, take the high road again and be polite. Remember, every dog has his day, even the ones who don't deserve it. But you will also have yours. It just takes patience and hard work.
 
You did the right thing BV. You showed your class, he showed his a**!

I can understand what BigCat is saying about the guy letting his emotions get the better of him but in my book you just don't do what he did. Who knows? Maybe after a few wins he'll chill a little.
 
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